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Posted by CranberryJuice on May-08-2008 06:03:

Re: Adoption.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Enigmatik
If you were adopted, would you want to know?
yes

If you knew, would you want to meet your birth parents?[/i][/b]


it depends

[QUOTE] If you adopted a child, how would you feel about the birth mother trying to contact you?
i'd understand


[QUOTE]If you gave up a child, would you want to contact him or her when they reached adulthood?[i][b]
it depends

[QUOTE][i][b]Any other thoughts on adoption?


i have personally no desire to look and find my biological mother or parents.I consider my parents like my real ones and biological , blood related so many times worth nothing compared to real care and love.
Then i think that my biological mother probably thought the best for me


Posted by nchs09 on May-08-2008 06:05:

quote fail.


Posted by CranberryJuice on May-08-2008 06:16:

quote:
Originally posted by nchs09
quote fail.



LOL yes

let's say im tired *watching clock* i wanna go back to sleep


Posted by itsamemario on May-08-2008 07:24:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Adoption.

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
fuck them. if they dont agree with abortion then theyre a mormon.


Posted by kadomony on May-08-2008 07:32:

quote:
Originally posted by Yohan
why?


because we're evolutionarily designed to avoid raising other people's kids.

why would we waste our resources on ensuring the survival of genes that arent ours?


Posted by Ang ' ela_ie on May-08-2008 14:18:

Re: Re: Adoption.

quote:
Originally posted by Theresa
I don't think highly of people who put their children up for adoption... to put it lightly.


This kind of view is the reason a lot of the kids in this country have it so shitty. Do you want a child to stay with a parent that is incapable of raising him or her? Should my 14 year old birth mother have kept me, even though she was obviously completely unready?


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on May-08-2008 14:33:

Re: Re: Re: Adoption.

quote:
Originally posted by Ang ' ela_ie
Should my 14 year old birth mother have kept me, even though she was obviously completely unready?

According to Theresa, your birth mother should have aborted you rather than putting you up for adoption.


Posted by iammesol on May-08-2008 14:35:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Adoption.

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
According to Theresa, your birth mother should have aborted you rather than putting you up for adoption.



That's the first anti-abortion statement I've ever said "w0rd" to.


Posted by MeLLyMeL on May-08-2008 14:42:

I don't like either subject. We are put here to mate. I from a womans point of view, could never bear the thought of killing a child or giving it up.

That's something I would never do but.. in [other folks] extreme circumstances.. adoption is better than aborting.


Posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY on May-08-2008 14:43:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
can think of nothing worse than raising other people's children.


You speak the truth! Nothing like paying for a deadbeats kids. I have had friends, and a brother marry a chick with multiple kids and their life turns to shit overnight.


Posted by CranberryJuice on May-08-2008 17:07:

i think it's a quite hard for a lot of us to understand or try to understand how a woman can leave her child.

this may come from the fact we mosly live in rich and wealthy countries where so many times women are taken care so as to avoid this situation and are not left alone in their despair.

i doubt we could make such harsh judgements in any way if we were in a lot of women's shoes


Posted by Lilith on May-09-2008 00:38:


Posted by RJT on May-09-2008 01:24:

Re: Adoption.

quote:
Originally posted by Enigmatik
If you knew, would you want to meet your birth parents?


Probably just to mock them since people who give kids up for adoption are all meth addicted whores with no prospects.
quote:
Originally posted by Enigmatik
If you adopted a child, how would you feel about the birth mother trying to contact you?


I would teach my child to mock their birth parents for being meth addicted whores with no prospects.
quote:
Originally posted by Enigmatik
If you gave up a child, would you want to contact him or her when they reached adulthood?


I would be more concerned about where I was going to score more drugs.
quote:
Originally posted by Enigmatik
Any other thoughts on adoption?


Adoption is win-win, the kids get a chance, and the parents don't have to give up their habit.

God bless America.


Posted by gehzumteufel on May-09-2008 01:31:

ROFL rob.


Posted by RJT on May-09-2008 01:34:

quote:
Originally posted by gehzumteufel
ROFL rob.


There's nothing funny about the truth, Ben.

Methamphetamines and babies are a dangerous cocktail of terror that adoption turns into unicorn daydreams and crack shakes.


Posted by Silky Johnson on May-09-2008 01:34:

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quote:
Originally posted by Theresa
- they managed to get pregnant when they didn't mean to (yes, I know accidents happen so not all of them fit into this bullet point, however I would hazard a guess that a very high number of them do.)
- they are not capable of taking care of a child (Pretty sure this applies to all people who give up their kids for adoption. Why else would you do it? *Open to suggestions*)




Or perhaps they are perfectly level-headed and *otherwise* responsible people who are entirely capable of raising a child but simply aren't ready to and actually believe in the right to life?


Posted by RandomGirl on May-09-2008 01:36:

Re: Re: Re: Adoption.

quote:
Originally posted by Ang ' ela_ie
This kind of view is the reason a lot of the kids in this country have it so shitty. Do you want a child to stay with a parent that is incapable of raising him or her? Should my 14 year old birth mother have kept me, even though she was obviously completely unready?


quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
According to Theresa, your birth mother should have aborted you rather than putting you up for adoption.




Personally, I don't think any mother should give birth if they have no intention of keeping the child. I know that sounds horrible, and as much as I luv you Ange, that doesn't change my opinion.

I don't know much about how you were adopted, or at what age, but for the majority of children, if they are not adopted at a young age, many are left in the system.

If this practice were discontinued, there would be a lot less homeless and unloved children, and a lot less resources spent on taking care of them. Not to mention that a lot of them do not become upstanding citizens and then continue to use the system as adults.

You were lucky, but not all children that are put up for adoption get to be so lucky.

To me, giving your child up for adoption is ultimately a selfish thing. Anyone can try and provide a good life to their child.... those people couldn't be bothered. It isn't that hard to get a job, and there are plenty of "assistance" programs. It's a matter of not wanting to own up to their mistakes and change their lives to accommodate for it. Instead, they abandon their child for someone else to take care of.

My feeling is that if you make a mess, you better clean it up. Why should anyone else do that for you? And in the situation of adoption, why should a child be potentially put into a life of suffering? *Yes, I know not all of them suffer*.

Anyway, I can't find numbers right now, but the amount of children that go unadopted every year is sickening, and I think it needs to stop.


Posted by Ang ' ela_ie on May-09-2008 01:39:

Actually, children who are "in the system" are there because parents who THOUGHT they could raise a child, 5 years down the road, decided they couldnt.

There are 3 year waiting lists for parents to get babies. Trust me, theres no shortage of people who cant have children and want one straight out of the vagina. My mom waited for two years for me, and another two for my brother.

Again, kids that are sitting in the system are there because their parents should have given them to someone who could really care for them for more than a few years.


Posted by Silky Johnson on May-09-2008 01:39:

Uh, what about women who can't have children?? Where do they get babies from??


Posted by RJT on May-09-2008 01:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Theresa

Anyway, I can't find numbers right now, but the amount of children that go unadopted every year is sickening, and I think it needs to stop.


You can't find the numbers because you don't know what you're talking about (surprise, surprise) yet again.

And (yet again), I'm sure no level of reason or fact based discussion will change your (misguided) opinion, so I'm just going to leave it at meth addiction and laugh at how quickly this turns into more of an "LOL, Theresa" thread than it already is.


Posted by UWM on May-09-2008 01:39:

Wow.

I mean, honestly, there must be some Bizarro World that you're living in that is the exact opposite of the one I'm currently inhabiting.


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on May-09-2008 01:40:

quote:
Originally posted by jennypie
Uh, what about women who can't have children?? Where do they get babies from??

Their infertility is a punishment from the Good Lord.


Posted by RandomGirl on May-09-2008 01:40:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Adoption.

quote:
Originally posted by jennypie
Or perhaps they are perfectly level-headed and *otherwise* responsible people who are entirely capable of raising a child but simply aren't ready to and actually believe in the right to life?


Not ready to have a child, but got pregnant anyway is still a sign of irresponsibility to me. You are responsible for your actions. Period. If you choose not to own up to them, that is irresponsibility IMO.

If you *know* that if you were to get pregnant, you would not keep it nor abort, then why aren't you on the pill and using condoms? Sure, there may be 1 in a million who would get pregnant anyway, but that is a hell of a lot less children in the system.


Posted by UWM on May-09-2008 01:41:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Adoption.

quote:
Originally posted by Theresa
Not ready to have a child, but got pregnant anyway is still a sign of irresponsibility to me. You are responsible for your actions. Period. If you choose not to own up to them, that is irresponsibility IMO.

If you *know* that if you were to get pregnant, you would not keep it nor abort, then why aren't you on the pill and using condoms? Sure, there may be 1 in a million who would get pregnant anyway, but that is a hell of a lot less children in the system.


Actually the rates would be about 1/500.


Posted by RJT on May-09-2008 01:42:

Honestly, you can set your watch by Theresa's "misinformed rant of the week."


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