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Posted by CHRles on May-11-2008 21:44:

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer

You must be extremly worried knowing that soon your new president Obama will be sitting and talking to these backward thinking countries like Iran?

And yet Obama showed up a few days ago for the celebrations in Washington commemorating the 60th anniversary of modern day Israel. Cheney and Pelosi were also there. The only reason Bush didnt attend was b/c his daughter was getting married the next day. Instead, Bush will be celebrating in Israel next week, delivering a speech at the Knesset, and delivering new sophisticated missiles to Israel that can disarm possible Iranian nukes.

Posted by Krypton on May-11-2008 22:33:

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Originally posted by CHRles
I'm sure there's a Mons Venus and an Ybor City in every city in Iran.
And cosmopolitan? You mean like the ethnic mix of people in Tampa? A black and a growing Hispanic population? A White population from all parts of the US and Europe? Oh yeah, the resemblance to Tampa is just astounding.
Women in Tampa = very hot.
Women in Iran = who knows? Most of them aren't allowed to dress up like their Tampa counterparts.

Tampa Radio includes 2 Hip Hop stations, Bubba The Love Sponge is back on the radio (and thx to him 102.5 finally sounds good), a Modern Rock station, a hard Rock station, one of the country's most famous Top 40 stations, and a cool Public radio station.

Why are you talking about Tampa or Nashville? Let me get this straight. Because Iran isn't an America in the Middle East, they are somehow not cosmopolitan? You FAIL...

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Iran radio = crap, and is entirely controlled by the state. Definitely not diverse like the radio dial in Dubai, Beirut, and especially Istanbul.
EDM Club scene in Iran? Non existent. Definitely not like that of Tel Aviv, Sharam Al Sheikh, Dubai, or Istanbul. American supermarkets vs. Iranian supermarkets? America wins hands down.

Who gives a shit? Are you Iranian? How about fucking off...and maybe there won't be this "conflict" with Iran...

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Car choices in America vs. Iran? America wins hands down.

AND!? I fail to see how that is even RELEVANT!! Because America is economically better? WHAT? What is your point? That makes them terrorists? You're just rambling about shit that doesn't even matter...

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Iran is anti-WESTERN. Oh yeah, I'm just so filled with envy right now

*FIXED* It does not matter what you think over in Nashville how Iranians run their own country...

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You know here in Nashville there's a big Kurdish population. Their views of Iran are very different from yours, and most of them could care less about Fox News.

Are you an idiot? The Kurds fled by the hundreds of thousands into Iran as refugees from the slaughter of Saddam Hussein. How about doing a little research before making yourself look stupid?

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Oh, and Iran looks soooo backwards...

Posted by hardcore trancer on May-11-2008 23:39:

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Originally posted by CHRles
And yet Obama showed up a few days ago for the celebrations in Washington commemorating the 60th anniversary of modern day Israel.

That doesnt meean fuck all and you know it,every fuckin president has to show in a way that they are in some way supportive of Israel otherwise they wont get elected.

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Cheney and Pelosi were also there. The only reason Bush didnt attend was b/c his daughter was getting married the next day. Instead, Bush will be celebrating in Israel next week, delivering a speech at the Knesset, and delivering new sophisticated missiles to Israel that can disarm possible Iranian nukes.

lol sophisticated missles? and what? you think they have the balls to even try to attack Iran?

Posted by hardcore trancer on May-11-2008 23:43:

Posted by CHRles on May-12-2008 00:41:

Which redneck town? Nashville, which is considered the Athens of the South (Vanderbilt is considered an ivy league university), or Tampa, which is in Florida?
Even if they were both redneck towns I'd take them anyday over any town in Iran. All I saw were a number of skyscrapers. Wow, they have those in Kenya and Sri Lanka too. That doesnt make a country cosmopolitan. look up the word cosmopolitan in the dictionary,
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/cosmopolitan

Let's see number 2 and 3 there say
2. Having constituent elements from all over the world or from many different parts of the world
3. So sophisticated as to be at home in all parts of the world or conversant with many spheres of interest:

Again, great description of Tampa, but an awful description of Tehran or any city in Iran. Basically Krypton's response fails, as does his comprehension of a word he just likes to throw around

Also, talk to some Kurds before you talk to me about their views on Iran. There are Kurds in the Middle East mainly in Turkey, Iraq, and Iran.

As for Israel, the missiles are anti-nukes missiles, meaning they won't be aimed at Iran...they'd be aimed at a nuclear bomb should Iran decide to push the red button. Oh yeah, and after Iran's nuclear bomb would be disarmed you can bet that after something like that Israel wouldnt hesitate to send 10 times as many nukes over to Iran. Disproportionate retaliation will be the response so you better hope Iran won't be sending anything towards Israel.

Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on May-12-2008 00:46:

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer
You are making it sound as of they are criminals,what have they done wrong exactly?they have never attacked or invaded any country,U.S. on the other hand has done alot of that.

so what do you call a country that breaks a treaty? a treaty that they signed willingly and voluntarily.

Posted by Krypton on May-12-2008 01:05:

quote:
Originally posted by CHRles
Which redneck town? Nashville, which is considered the Athens of the South (Vanderbilt is considered an ivy league university), or Tampa, which is in Florida?
Even if they were both redneck towns I'd take them anyday over any town in Iran. All I saw were a number of skyscrapers. Wow, they have those in Kenya and Sri Lanka too. That doesnt make a country cosmopolitan. look up the word cosmopolitan in the dictionary,
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/cosmopolitan

Let's see number 2 and 3 there say
2. Having constituent elements from all over the world or from many different parts of the world
3. So sophisticated as to be at home in all parts of the world or conversant with many spheres of interest:

Again, great description of Tampa, but an awful description of Tehran or any city in Iran. Basically Krypton's response fails, as does his comprehension of a word he just likes to throw around

Also, talk to some Kurds before you talk to me about their views on Iran. There are Kurds in the Middle East mainly in Turkey, Iraq, and Iran.

Tampa or Nashville have nothing to do with Iran. Staying relevant is hard for you isn't it?

Iran has all the functioning institutions of any western country. Your pathetic notion that they are somehow backwards in culture is completely WRONG...

Talk to Kurds? Have you talked to Kurds? Let me guess... Study up on your history...Kurds fled from Iraq into Iran by huge numbers. Remember who gassed the Kurds? WASN'T IRAN!!! ...

Posted by hardcore trancer on May-12-2008 01:12:

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
so what do you call a country that breaks a treaty? a treaty that they signed willingly and voluntarily.

Perhaps they shouldnt have signed it to begin with since they ll be looked at as a bunch of fanatics with nukes according to the U.S.

To be honest I think at the begining of all this they were actually going after peaceful nuclear energy,but after seeing what happend in Afghanistan and Iraq,they may have gone after nuclear weapons,which again doesnt make them criminals for wanting to use nukes for stopping possible future invasion by the U.S.

Posted by CHRles on May-12-2008 01:14:

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Originally posted by Krypton
And if you've ever actually done research on Iran (which is clear you haven't); Iran is one of the most cosmopolitan countries in the Middle East. They have everything you have here in the West.

This is why I keep coming back to Nashville and Tampa. It was your own words "they have everything you have here in the West" so stop playing all dumb.

As for Kurds, Sadam is gone now, and he's the one who used gas. Iran, on the other hand is still an issue for Kurds.

Iran's culture was at its peak hundereds of years ago.
You know, it's people like you who would also be defending the Soviet Union if it was still around today. You truly take the USA for granted, and you obviously havent traveled to or truly studied in depth about other cultures and countries.

Posted by hardcore trancer on May-12-2008 01:14:

quote:
Originally posted by CHRles
Which redneck town? Nashville, which is considered the Athens of the South (Vanderbilt is considered an ivy league university), or Tampa, which is in Florida?
Even if they were both redneck towns I'd take them anyday over any town in Iran. All I saw were a number of skyscrapers. Wow, they have those in Kenya and Sri Lanka too. That doesnt make a country cosmopolitan. look up the word cosmopolitan in the dictionary,
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/cosmopolitan

Let's see number 2 and 3 there say
2. Having constituent elements from all over the world or from many different parts of the world
3. So sophisticated as to be at home in all parts of the world or conversant with many spheres of interest:

Again, great description of Tampa, but an awful description of Tehran or any city in Iran. Basically Krypton's response fails, as does his comprehension of a word he just likes to throw around

Also, talk to some Kurds before you talk to me about their views on Iran. There are Kurds in the Middle East mainly in Turkey, Iraq, and Iran.

As for Israel, the missiles are anti-nukes missiles, meaning they won't be aimed at Iran...they'd be aimed at a nuclear bomb should Iran decide to push the red button. Oh yeah, and after Iran's nuclear bomb would be disarmed you can bet that after something like that Israel wouldnt hesitate to send 10 times as many nukes over to Iran. Disproportionate retaliation will be the response so you better hope Iran won't be sending anything towards Israel.

Are you high? seriously I have no idea what you are trying to prove by all this? that America is better then Iran? how old are you?

Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on May-12-2008 01:23:

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer
Perhaps they shouldnt have signed it to begin with since they ll be looked at as a bunch of fanatics with nukes according to the U.S.

To be honest I think at the begining of all this they were actually going after peaceful nuclear energy,but after seeing what happend in Afghanistan and Iraq,they may have gone after nuclear weapons,which again doesnt make them criminals for wanting to use nukes for stopping possible future invasion by the U.S.

you didn't answer my question.

so, do you think iran will give back whatever it received as part of signing the treaty?

Posted by Q5echo on May-12-2008 01:42:

thank you pkcRAISTLIN for reminding all of us, again, that the premise of this thread is pointless.

ISRAEL DOESN'T HAVE TO SUBMIT TO ANYTHING BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT SIGNATORIES TO THE NUCLEAR NON-PROLIFERATION TREATY. Israel in '68 had the smarts and forsight not to enter into it knowing full well what the future and her enemies had in store for her. Iran, on the other hand....they're playing dangerous game.

...and Krypton, youre a lousy American

Posted by Krypton on May-12-2008 01:42:

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Originally posted by CHRles
This is why I keep coming back to Nashville and Tampa. It was your own words "they have everything you have here in the West" so stop playing all dumb.

Playing dumb? You rambled on about the radio and cars, as if that proved anything...Iran has cars. Iran has shopping malls. Iran has ski resorts. Iran has a free trade zone (Kush Island). Iran's people are modern in every way the West is modern.

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As for Kurds, Sadam is gone now, and he's the one who used gas. Iran, on the other hand is still an issue for Kurds.

Kurds participate in the Iranian elections!! Hard to argue against someone who can't even get the simple facts straight...Saddam is gone now? What kind of punk ass argument is that? YOUR POINT?

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Iran's culture was at its peak hundereds of years ago.

How do you know? Are you some expert historian?

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You know, it's people like you who would also be defending the Soviet Union if it was still around today. You truly take the USA for granted, and you obviously havent traveled to or truly studied in depth about other cultures and countries.

The Soviet Union? First, in a thread about Iran, you mention Nashville and Tampa, and now the Soviet Union? We're all over the place with you aren't we?

I take my US citizenship for granted...how? Because I am in opposition to my government's foreign policies? Let me guess...You think I'm a terrorist loving traitor? F*cking nationalism is a virus, and you're a prime example...lol @ the culture comments...coming from someone who thinks Iran is a backwards country...

Posted by Krypton on May-12-2008 01:43:

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Originally posted by Q5echo
thank you pkcRAISTLIN for reminding all of us, again, that the premise of this thread is pointless.

ISRAEL DOESN'T HAVE TO SUBMIT TO ANYTHING BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT SIGNATORIES TO THE NUCLEAR NON-PROLIFERATION TREATY. Israel in '68 had the smarts and forsight not to enter into it knowing full well what the future and her enemies had in store for her. Iran, on the other hand....they're playing dangerous game.

What if Iran withdrew it's signature?

Posted by Q5echo on May-12-2008 01:47:

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Originally posted by Krypton
What if Iran withdrew it's signature?

under the terms of the treaty i believe thay are only permitted to do so in a time of war.

when it comes to Iran though, it's irrelevant. they've already violated parts of the treaty.

the real problem is the UN. they're worthless. a worthless and feckless bunch of beaurocrats that are, effectively, only in it for themselves.

Posted by hardcore trancer on May-12-2008 02:27:

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
you didn't answer my question.

so, do you think iran will give back whatever it received as part of signing the treaty?

Such as?

Posted by hardcore trancer on May-12-2008 02:28:

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Originally posted by Q5echo
the real problem is the UN. they're worthless. a worthless and feckless bunch of beaurocrats that are, effectively, only in it for themselves.

It is the same UN that Bush used to sell the war on terror to the world and the invasion of Iraq.

Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on May-12-2008 02:31:

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer
Such as?

i have absolutely no idea. but these treaties are rarely signed for free.

Posted by Q5echo on May-12-2008 02:37:

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer
Such as?

like i stated before, it's irrelevant whether they withdarw from the treaty.

the multiple UN Security Council resolutions that have been imposed over the last three years are legally binding with or without the Mullah's review of the NPT.

Posted by Q5echo on May-12-2008 02:40:

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer
It is the same UN that Bush used to sell the war on terror to the world and the invasion of Iraq.

the UN had no part in the invasion of Iraq.

Bushitler asked twice but got a big "f**k you". that gave us the "coalition of the willing"

Posted by hardcore trancer on May-12-2008 02:54:

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Originally posted by Q5echo
the UN had no part in the invasion of Iraq.

Bushitler asked twice but got a big "f**k you". that gave us the "coalition of the willing"

well it is good to see that U.S doesnt give a fuck about what the UN member think,and will continue to do what they like regardless.

With this type of behaviour they cant expect other countries to obey UN either.

Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on May-12-2008 03:05:

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer
well it is good to see that U.S doesnt give a fuck about what the UN member think,and will continue to do what they like regardless.

With this type of behaviour they cant expect other countries to obey UN either.

is there any problem currently affecting the world that you don't think was caused by the US of A and/or Israel?

Posted by Q5echo on May-12-2008 03:06:

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer
well it is good to see that U.S doesnt give a fuck about what the UN member think,and will continue to do what they like regardless.

With this type of behaviour they cant expect other countries to obey UN either.

UNSCR 1441 was passed unanimously.

this is where we get into the fecklessness and impotency of the UN as a whole.

Posted by Q5echo on May-12-2008 03:14:

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer
With this type of behaviour they cant expect other countries to obey UN either.

thats a 5 year old child's argument. we're talking about "Nucular's"

in any case, regarding Iran, this is partly why the EU3, Germany, France and Great Britain are spearheading the Security Council effort.

the US doesn't speak officially to Iran.

Posted by jerZ07002 on May-12-2008 03:58:

quote:
Originally posted by hardcore trancer
That doesnt meean fuck all and you know it,every fuckin president has to show in a way that they are in some way supportive of Israel otherwise they wont get elected.

lol sophisticated missles? and what? you think they have the balls to even try to attack Iran?

what's with persian arrogance?

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