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Originally posted by jerZ07002 how is communism a threat to the US today? communism was only a threat because people have ideals they believe need to be spread. in and of itself, communism is not a threat to the US. it's a ridiculous notion to say it is. if anything, communism was only a threat to the people who would have to live under its rule (and that was only because it wasn't truly communism, but rather fascist totalitarianism). the spread of communism was really a front for saying the spread of enemy influence. if iran was to become a communist today, so what? it's not the spread of soviet influence.

Iran turning Communist today is not the same b/c the Soviet Union disbanded. It would have been a threat back in the 50s. That's why the CIA assasinated some Chavez-type Iranian leader back then.

PS too bad the CIA didnt get a chance to assasinate Lenin or Stalin. They were responsible for killing a good 20 million people...in Russia!
See, I too can go off on tangences.

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Originally posted by CHRles The women in Basra didn't just conveniently lie - they were raped. Thx Iran, for promoting rape on your fellow country

The Iraqis are fighting the Americans in a Knife against Gun fight... if Iran is giving them guns, then good for them for giving the war a balance. But if the Iraqis go on raping children and so on, how is that Irans fault.

What about when those American soldiers raping those Iraqi women, how about the Haditha Massacre, is that the fault of Iran, America (for supplying them the weapons) or the Iraqis.. none, its the fault of the troops themselves.

Don't go babbling your nonsense when American troops have done even worse atrocities, you damn hypocrite.

If you think those were inhumane, what do you call this then, patriotic?

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast...lain/index.html

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Originally posted by Lemonad What about when those American soldiers raping those Iraqi women

You mean the soldiers that were tried and found guilty by the United States justice system? Or are you referring to the American soldier stationed in Japan who was found guilty for raping a local?


Face it - our justice system is a million times better and fairer then Iran's.

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Originally posted by CHRles You mean the soldiers that were tried and found guilty by the United States justice system? Or are you referring to the American soldier stationed in Japan who was found guilty for raping a local? Face it - our justice system is a million times better and fairer then Iran's.

A system that if adjudicated, allows the decision to be out of the victims choice and control.

Whereas Irans judicial gives options to the victims family on what should be done if found guilty...

hmmmm.

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Originally posted by Lemonad A system that if adjudicated, allows the decision to be out of the victims choice and control.

Sounds good to me

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Originally posted by CHRles Sounds good to me

So, say if your mother was murdered and for some corrupt way, the murderer was the son of the judge, and the murderer only got 1 year... you'd be happy with that?

Can you give me any cases of murderers in the US who get sentenced for only a year?
Your statement would maybe work in Aruba, not the US.
In any case I'd hire a good lawyer who'd make sure the judge isn't related to the murderer. Nobody messes with my momma

Hey Charles how do you explain and justify the disaster of aby ghraib? you blame Iran for that too? because it seems like you are very good at blaming Iran for everything that is happening in Iraq.

I was using that as an example to show that at least Iran gives their "victims" some choice in the process.. which much more "fair".

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer Hey Charles how do you explain and justify the disaster of aby ghraib? you blame Iran for that too? because it seems like you are very good at blaming Iran for everything that is happening in Iraq.

Nope. That is something America is responsible for. Keep in mind though that this was exposed via an American, a top journalist who dug deep enough, did some investigating and got to the bottom of things. Not only that - it was published in America for all the world to see.
Iranian media would never allow for Iranian wrongdoings to be exposed in such a manner. To be fair, the same goes for a lot of other countries/governments.

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Originally posted by Lemonad I was using that as an example to show that at least Iran gives their "victims" some choice in the process.. which much more "fair".

Let me ask you this - where would you rather be tried for anything you may be accused of? Which judicial system are you less afraid of?

PS no, I don't wish upon you or any member here to spend anytime in any jail around the world.

There is no point in answering that because you want me to say America.

Though the truth is neither.

They both have horrible prisons.

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Originally posted by CHRles I can't believe Krypton doesn't understand how just b/c Iran isn't located 90 mins from us like Cuba, it was still a huge threat. Iran goes Communist, and that could make it easier to turn other countries in that region in that direction.

the communists are coming!!

I just want to point out that nowhere in that article does it say that the Iranian state is implicated in those murders. It says a few Iranian citizens are there... but that's hardly an intentional policy instituted by the Iranian government, is it?

We should just blame Iran for everything.....
I mean shit, we need a new scape goat now since Hardcore's favorite US president is leaving office....

Lets just blame Iran ....

who is with me???

Price of Gas... IRAN

Global Warming... IRAN

Gays Rights..... IRAN

Members Only Jackets coming back ..... IRAN

My cat taking a shit on the floor.... IRAN

fuck it IRAN is the problem for everyone......



seriously though, if Iran just got rid of the whacko religious ass holes who run that country, I am sure we could sit down with Ahmadinejad and have a cup of tea and trade fashion tips.



i still say Ahmadinejad looks like my uncle Domingo ...

The article clearly states that Iran is the one funding the militias responsible for the rapes.

In other news, I shit you not, Iran is seriously considering a ban on ties! Claiming that it's part of the Western virus that is trying to infect Iran.

PS I'm all for blaming Iran on all of the world's problems as Iran has been blaming everything on America. Fight fire with fire and take down the religious bastards in control of Iran.

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Originally posted by CHRles I can't believe Krypton doesn't understand how just b/c Iran isn't located 90 mins from us like Cuba, it was still a huge threat. Iran goes Communist, and that could make it easier to turn other countries in that region in that direction.

Explain to me how a country choosing to be a socialist state is a threat to American national security? Additionally, Iran was a DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC in 1952! They weren't a communist government.
The "domino theory" you just used as an argument is a total farce. Vietnam became communist. But guess what? There was no trickle down "domino effect" of Asian countries becoming communist. You make a flawed assertion in stating Iran is a threat the national security of America. With what CHRles? You won't answer that? Missiles? What?

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Nobody in America is afraid to speak their mind - can't say the same for Iran.

Apparently, you've never heard of the Iranian Reformist Movement...

The Iranian reform movement (Persian:اصلاح طلبان, or the Reforms Front (Persian: جبههٔ اصلاحات also known as 2nd of Khordad Front (Persian: جبهه دوم خرداد which refers to the date of President Mohammad Khatami's 1997 landslide election victory in the Iranian Calendar) is a political movement by a group of political parties and organizations in Iran who supported Mohammad Khatami's plans to change the system to include more freedom and democracy. Iran's "reform era" is sometimes said to have lasted from 1997-2005 - the length of President Khatami's two terms in office.

Don't you just love it when Krypton gets all cryptically confused?

Come back when you have something solid to say. Even during Khatami's regime freedom of speech was limited, although Khatami was a MUCH smarter/better president then the current moneky Iran's got in office.

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Originally posted by CHRles Don't you just love it when Krypton gets all cryptically confused?

stop trying so hard...

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Come back when you have something solid to say.

Seeing as I've been here twice as long as you have, you can go F(*# yourself...

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Even during Khatami's regime freedom of speech was limited, although Khatami was a MUCH smarter/better president then the current moneky Iran's got in office.

So you're pissy because Iran isn't a liberal western democracy? What's it to you, you who have probably never even been to Middle East? You make it seem like Iran is a Stalinist dictatorship. Get real dude..

Speaking of going to the Middle East, has anyone checked out wikitravel? Pretty amusing to read the reviews of places like Yemen, or especially Baghdad:
http://wikitravel.org/en/Baghdad

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Originally posted by CHRles Speaking of going to the Middle East, has anyone checked out wikitravel? Pretty amusing to read the reviews of places like Yemen, or especially Baghdad: http://wikitravel.org/en/Baghdad

So now you are making fun of Iraq?and whos fault is it that the country has turned into ruins? let me guess Iran?

In other news:

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Iran Busts CIA-Backed Terror Group TEHRAN - The Intelligence Ministry on Saturday released details of the detection and dismantling of a terrorist network affiliated to the United States. In a coordinated operation on May 7, Iranian intelligence agents arrested the terrorist network�s members, who were identified in Fars, Khuzestan, Gilan, West Azerbaijan, and Tehran provinces, the Intelligence Ministry announcement said. The group�s plans were devised in the U.S., according to the announcement, which added that they had planned to carry out a number of acts such as bombing scientific, educational, and religious centers, shooting people, and making public places in various cities insecure. One of the terrorists was killed in the operation, but the rest are in detention, the Intelligence Ministry said, adding that the group�s main objective was to create fear among the people. The United States Central Intelligence Agency comprehensively supported the terrorist group by arming it, training its members, and sponsoring its inhumane activities in Iran, the Intelligence Ministry stated. The terrorists had maps, films, pictures, and sketches of important and sensitive sites in various cities in their possession when they were arrested. They also had a large number of weapons and ammunition and a great deal of highly explosive chemicals and cyanide. The blast at a religious center in Shiraz last month was carried out by this group, and it also had plans to carry out similar attacks on the Tehran International Book Fair, the Russian Consulate in Gilan Province, oil pipelines in southern Iran, and other targets, the communiqu� stated. Thirteen people were killed and over 190 others wounded in a bombing carried out on April 12 at the Rahpuyan-e Vessal religious center, which is part of the Seyyed-ul-Shohada Mosque complex, located in a residential area of Shiraz. source: http://www.tehrantimes.com/index_View.asp?code=168823

Well looks like Bush&Cheney are really trying to start another war AGAIN.

Good Job U.S.A.

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer In other news: Well looks like Bush&Cheney are really trying to start another war AGAIN. Good Job U.S.A.

The Tehran Times: the pinnacle of credible sources.

I'm sure the US has it's hands in something, but certainly not in purposefully killing civilians. Try again buddy.

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Originally posted by jerZ07002 The Tehran Times: the pinnacle of credible sources.

So being a non-Western source somehow completely undermines it's credibility?

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