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Originally posted by Intangible You cant totally blame the states, but they havent made things better either...

same... you as the last guy. you're ignorant

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Originally posted by soupastah u have no idea what you're talking about

Really ...... I wasnt in the mood of arguing lets see what your point is go ahead ?????Tell me what you think is the sole cause of it all?

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Originally posted by soupastah u have no idea what you're talking about

wow you must be soo good at debating...

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Originally posted by UmmiE Really ...... I wasnt in the mood of arguing lets see what your point is go ahead ?????Tell me what you think is the sole cause of it all?

no...you're not going to argue because you have nothing to argue

you would blame an administration of the past 7 years for a cultural reallity that's been around for hundreds of years? LAME. people make ignorant comments about things all the time, no worries, me advising anybody how to cook would be ignorant. but I nearly laughed when I noticed the Pakistani flag you're touting, so I can assume you haven't lived there much. Foreign aid workers, and governments for that matter, have done more for that region of the world in the last 8 years than anybody has done for them in the past 1000. I find it funny you could find a fault in that.

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer wow you must be soo good at debating...

meh... I don't read this forum board to change a persons' oppinion, I'd much rather continue reading about jennypies coke/fuck adventures thanks

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Originally posted by soupastah no...you're not going to argue because you have nothing to argue you would blame an administration of the past 7 years for a cultural reallity that's been around for hundreds of years? LAME. people make ignorant comments about things all the time, no worries, me advising anybody how to cook would be ignorant. but I nearly laughed when I noticed the Pakistani flag you're touting, so I can assume you haven't lived there much. Foreign aid workers, and governments for that matter, have done more for that region of the world in the last 8 years than anybody has done for them in the past 1000. I find it funny you could find a fault in that.

Yes there are good and bad people everywhere.......Thats why I made it clear and said..." Bush " not americans or North Americans or anything thats sort......What your saying is completely different from what I was refering to .......I was saying that " Bush " is the cause of all this.......Before his dad came and we had the Gulf war......Now he came and 2 counrties were destroyed.....Well Iraq and Afghanistan.....In my post if you go read..... I never blamed anyone but Bush.....So what your talking about doesnt fit.

I have lived in Middle East and Pakistan.....So I do know what im taking about here.......I dont blame the American People because they just like us here in canada everyday normal people, who work 9 to 5 and come home and watch tv and whatever they see there they believe.

What people have failed to understand in this thread is that.....If that counrty was left on its own.....It could had something positive happen to it, Im not saying over the course of 8 years or so....but if this war wouldnt have happened then atleast something positive or good might have happened atleast they would have had proper schools or health systems and other Govt institutions,which would have helped it come out of the drug use as a cure for all.......But instead has sent them back t0 stone age.

Here watch this to get a brief idea......and learn to read the posts before you decide to reply to them next time.

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Originally posted by TranceGrooves AJ, lets go have some crown & lemonade.

OMG! Talk about flashbacks... I haven't had that since with you at Drews That tasty mix knocked me on my ass!

You can hardly blame the US for the bombed out infastructure in Afghanistan...the Russians did a pretty good job of blasting it back to the stone age in the 80's.

There was also that pesky civil war in 1929. In fact, there has been pretty much nothing but political turmoil in Afghanistan since the first republics were set up in, what, the 1500's or something?

But hey, I guess they make a pretty good scapegoat these days.

Did you hear? George Bush causes cancer, too!

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Originally posted by UmmiE and learn to read the posts before you decide to reply to them next time.

your ignorance amuses me. That whole I blame Bush not americans is the greatest ignorant cop-out of the 21st century, Bush is representative of the american administration. So genius, I heard you write, but what is it again Bush did exactly? Your head is neatly stuck up your ass if you truly believe it is harder to get aid, money, and change into afghanistan today than it was 6 yrs ago. dousch.

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Originally posted by UmmiE but if this war wouldnt have happened then atleast something positive or good might have happened atleast they would have had proper schools or health systems and other Govt institutions,which would have helped it come out of the drug use as a cure for all

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Originally posted by UmmiE I have lived in Middle East and Pakistan

You lie. Age 3-6 doesn't count. Neither does visiting for 3 months. If you had lived there you'd know the buildings in Kabul resemble swiss cheese more than structures from 50 years of war and no government. And more than 70% of the worlds opium comes from that region, it's embeded in the culture there. Fields and fields of the stuff. And marijane too. I remember there would just be huge fields of mary growing around our compounds, one time they were burning them, so my highschool buddies and I hung out on the hill behind the field all day and just got high. there wasn't even pot out that way, because a brick of hash (the size of an eatmore chocolate bar) went for $3 canadian. good times
But no, it's Bush. for sure. Bush. You're a nob. He grew the poppies himself, no doubt. How can you even talk about schools, your thread was on opium dick touch, if you saw a school after the taliban took over you'd puke over the embarrasment towards your last remark.
Listen pickle, I wouldn't even have posted if the thread was written by anybody else. Not going to rag on someone, it isn't anybody's job to know what it's like over there, but you wave the Pakistani flag. People might actually think you were talking sense. Pakistan Zindabad

You get back to me though... Bush (not the americans) did what exactly again?

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Originally posted by UmmiE

I think I'm going to mail you a postcard I have from Kabul, ten years ago. Pre Bush, Pre Taliban.
dick hole

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Originally posted by soupastah your ignorance amuses me. That whole I blame Bush not americans is the greatest ignorant cop-out of the 21st century, Bush is representative of the american administration. So genius, I heard you write, but what is it again Bush did exactly? Your head is neatly stuck up your ass if you truly believe it is harder to get aid, money, and change into afghanistan today than it was 6 yrs ago. dousch. You lie. Age 3-6 doesn't count. Neither does visiting for 3 months. If you had lived there you'd know the buildings in Kabul resemble swiss cheese more than structures from 50 years of war and no government. And more than 70% of the worlds opium comes from that region, it's embeded in the culture there. Fields and fields of the stuff. And marijane too. I remember there would just be huge fields of mary growing around our compounds, one time they were burning them, so my highschool buddies and I hung out on the hill behind the field all day and just got high. there wasn't even pot out that way, because a brick of hash (the size of an eatmore chocolate bar) went for $3 canadian. good times But no, it's Bush. for sure. Bush. You're a nob. He grew the poppies himself, no doubt. How can you even talk about schools, your thread was on opium dick touch, if you saw a school after the taliban took over you'd puke over the embarrasment towards your last remark. Listen pickle, I wouldn't even have posted if the thread was written by anybody else. Not going to rag on someone, it isn't anybody's job to know what it's like over there, but you wave the Pakistani flag. People might actually think you were talking sense. Pakistan Zindabad You get back to me though... Bush (not the americans) did what exactly again?

Listen asswipe...............14 years living in the middle east is way beyond age 3-6. I know they have poppy seeds growing everywhere ( captian obvious ) ...What you have failed to understand yet again with your pea fucking brain is the fact that ....... when there is no proper way of life and no police,goverment,or ethics just bunch of guys wearing turbans running around carrying guns....How do you think a society like that would come out of its bad habits and go towards the good.

Can I compare Afghanistan with Colombia?..... due to similar drug related issues and internal conflicts......I know its a little better than afghanistan.....It has some sort of rules and regulations and law and order of some sort if not 100%......It has a flourshing tourist industry.....That is something I was trying to explain in the previous post that If you leave it on its own and let the country build atleast they would go forward in the right direction.

You and I finish talking here.....To each their own.....Dont bother replying to this I wont continue any further.

whats the point of that video... in all honesty. if i lived there. and knew the medical system.. and i was a woman going into labour. knowing that i wont be able to get an epidural or proper anasthesiology. i would do it myself.. in those countries. its not hard to get morphine or other opiate painkillers.. so why suffer.. cuz its against ur religion?? well then i guess you cant have everything. .... i remember hearing stories of uncles and shit from poland that were going to ROOT canals without a general or local.. they would go in drunk as fuck so that at least it wouldnt be as bad... like people . do what u gotta do.


Oh and for the record. i totally agree.. BUSH or the americans.. did shit all to afghanistan.. you make your bed.. you fucking sleep in it.

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Originally posted by UmmiE but if this war wouldnt have happened then atleast something positive or good might have happened atleast they would have had proper schools or health systems and other Govt institutions,which would have helped it come out of the drug use as a cure for all.......But instead has sent them back t0 stone age.

I have never been to Afghanistan, but I have been to Morocco, and that was a time warp in itself, and that's probably a relatively 'modern' arab country. Yes, it has its modern areas, but 45% illiteracy, plenty of homes made of mud & clay with no electricity or running water, towns with dirt roads, thousands of people who just live in the desert, hundread of 'phone centers' where u can use pay phones... I can GU-RAN-TEE you Afghanistan was in the dark ages LONG before this war began.

Did America do damage to Afghanistan? Of course. Are they the root of their opiumm problem? Hell no.

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Originally posted by tatgirl I can GU-RAN-TEE you Afghanistan was in the dark ages LONG before this war began. Did America do damage to Afghanistan? Of course. Are they the root of their opiumm problem? Hell no.

+1!

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Originally posted by UmmiE It has to do with Bush.......Because when your country is constantly under attack where roads,hospital,business and all the public sector is complete wreck.....How are you supposed to fit a whole province in a rehab with only 20 beds.........How many women at this paticular time while Im typing this are due to give birth anytime and have "NO" medical attention or hospitals to assist them.......Its a very ugly situation down there.

You can't seriously believe this. Please tell me that you're pulling our collective leg.

The fact that there is any rehab or other medical care available for these people is largely thanks to the Bush administration. Maybe you're confusing Afghanistan with Iraq? The Afghanis love Bush, they're way better off now than they were in 2000. To honestly believe otherwise, you'd have to be getting the bulk of your news from Democratic Underground or HuffPo.

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Originally posted by DigiNut You can't seriously believe this. Please tell me that you're pulling our collective leg. The fact that there is any rehab or other medical care available for these people is largely thanks to the Bush administration. Maybe you're confusing Afghanistan with Iraq? The Afghanis love Bush, they're way better off now than they were in 2000. To honestly believe otherwise, you'd have to be getting the bulk of your news from Democratic Underground or HuffPo.

LOL Im sorry but the afghanis born and raised here dont count.

Im talking about the real ones.

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Originally posted by UmmiE LOL Im sorry but the afghanis born and raised here dont count. Im talking about the real ones.

So am I, dipshit.


Honestly, you can go on pretending that you actually know something about that part of the middle east, but it's plainly obvious to anyone who isn't already on your bandwagon that you're just putting your own prejudices on parade.

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Originally posted by DigiNut So am I, dipshit.

We shall discuss this at the cevapi party over a smoke????? Save some for there.

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Originally posted by DigiNut So am I, dipshit.

you really do think you know more then anyone else on this board dont you?

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Originally posted by UmmiE We shall discuss this at the cevapi party over a smoke????? Save some for there.

Haha, hardly. Last thing I want at a social gathering is a political debate about the middle east. And trying to talk politics in a haze is about as productive as trying to have sex after 12 beers.

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Originally posted by DigiNut Haha, hardly. Last thing I want at a social gathering is a political debate about the middle east. And trying to talk politics in a haze is about as productive as trying to have sex after 12 beers.

Dont worry I'll somehow squeeze in a lil " Digi and UmmiE " time at some point in the party.

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Originally posted by UmmiE . when there is no proper way of life and no police,goverment,or ethics just bunch of guys wearing turbans running around carrying guns....How do you think a society like that would come out of its bad habits and go towards the good.

lol. no, you're right, my pea brain has a tough time putting that together. real complex. nice you could excerpt that from my texts somehow. you are no doubt an epic and cunning internet linguist. and of course the taliban were moving things in the right direction. I loved the way they kept women from schools, and barred even the educated ones from work. I also loved the move to sharia law. even more so i loved reading my morning paper to learn how sports had been dismantled, but the best was waking up and reading how they stoned a women to death in public at the Kabul soccer stadium for cheating on her husband (i'm sure she had a fair say to that). no you're right. moving in the right direction before Bush for sure.
but dicktouch, i think the thread again was about opium use? and last i checked the taliban had no problem w/ the crop, and no wish to eradicate it.

i don't know where you lived (curious though), but I'll bet my smaller nut your friends hated gora americans. And I doubt you spent your christmas hollidays in an afghan refugee camp. I don't understand how you could write so much and say so little. I only asked one question, and i didn't see you answer it... HOW did BUSH mess afghanistan up? I suppose the taliban should have stayed on? Just defend the first argument you made in the thread pls, and stop being a motard.

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