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Posted by jonas on May-29-2008 20:21:

That video had me crying in my office so bad that I had to close the door.

That was fucking funny as shit!!


Posted by Ph03n1x on May-29-2008 20:22:

Gareth Emery & Martin Roth are my current favorite producers!


Posted by jonas on May-29-2008 20:24:

quote:
Originally posted by Ph03n1x
Gareth Emery & Martin Roth are my current favorite producers!


I forgot Bobina the crazy Russian. Heard some of his stuff recently and really dug it.


Posted by Carlos Pereira on May-29-2008 20:24:

quote:
Originally posted by jonas
That video had me crying in my office so bad that I had to close the door.

That was fucking funny as shit!!


Same here. Got that vid from Ryan last week via MySpace. The girl the works next door said she could hear me laugh through the wall.


Posted by davemolina on May-29-2008 20:32:

LOL @ ProgMojados recent shenanigans!!!


Posted by jonas on May-29-2008 20:35:

Shut up Dave. We're making fun of you next.


Posted by Carlos Pereira on May-29-2008 20:38:

btw, just out of curiousity:
Is ProgressiveMOJO = Jojo (the guy from austin, or san antonio, wherever he's from)?

If not, is Jojo on TA?


Posted by jonas on May-29-2008 20:41:

quote:
Originally posted by architect1803
btw, just out of curiousity:
Is ProgressiveMOJO = Jojo (the guy from austin, or san antonio, wherever he's from)?

If not, is Jojo on TA?


Different guy and Jojo is on TA.


Posted by winston on May-29-2008 20:42:

stfu david (with a cherry on top)

now, the point progressivemojo is trying to convey here is that Texas needs more diversity in terms of electronic dance music. In other words, all the money is going to big trance djs instead of lesser-known djs or more eclectic performers.

Exhibit A.

You pay x amount of money to bring in AVB. You then get a warm up dj that has 'something to do' with the genre Armin is playing, right?

well, what about...

Use x amount of money to bring in Zip, Matthew Dear, Ivan Smagghe - instead of only investing in ONE big dj.

The problem - texas does not have an educated scene to know that Ivan Smagghe stands for Blackstrobe (Yes you can fuck that nazi trance off) and/or that matthew dear is Audion/False (and from Texas).

So the big promoting companies work on the safe side and to their advantage, because in Texas the electronic business is focused on EDM (Trance) not european Techno.

However, it's surprising to see that Henry (Chow) has enough balls to throw down some pretty impressive parties in Austin with people like Agaric, now if only there were more people like him doing more stuff in Texas - we'd all be happy with our scene. But, we all have to live in one big room where there is no diversity IMO.

this wasn't a rant, just a cold and brief analysis (with cherries on top).


Posted by davemolina on May-29-2008 20:59:

quote:
Originally posted by diggerz
The problem - texas does not have an educated scene


Jackpot!!!

Promoters have to book who will sell best. Don't blame them...blame the fickle-ass crowds.

Also, ProgMojado doesn't have to be such an arrogant douche when posts. I expect my music snobs to reek of Enriqueness. Bluntly honest, but respectful.


Posted by Benjamin DuBose on May-29-2008 21:21:

I could go on but Progressive mojo has apparently never seen a well known artist contract.

true were not the most educated in EDM but there a more reasons than you may know as to why there not coming around other than just the promoters are not booking them.

also 77002 consist of 2 main people. one of thems like trance one of them like house and is a house dj. so to say they dont want to book house djs is WRONG.


all i can say to Joto is to book the people he wants and you will quickly learn there is more to it than to just say i want this dj and i want that dj and you find a club your wanting to put them in. oh there is not one. Im not sure if you have any idea how much sound systems cost for a club but a good system starts about 200,000 and can go up to 700,000 yeah no bullshit. so please learn some more about what it takes to make a nice club and what it takes to be a promotion company before you think you know it all about doing it.


Posted by Carlos Pereira on May-29-2008 21:30:

quote:
Originally posted by diggerz
stfu david (with a cherry on top)

now, the point progressivemojo is trying to convey here is that Texas needs more diversity in terms of electronic dance music. In other words, all the money is going to big trance djs instead of lesser-known djs or more eclectic performers.

Exhibit A.

You pay x amount of money to bring in AVB. You then get a warm up dj that has 'something to do' with the genre Armin is playing, right?

well, what about...

Use x amount of money to bring in Zip, Matthew Dear, Ivan Smagghe - instead of only investing in ONE big dj.

The problem - texas does not have an educated scene to know that Ivan Smagghe stands for Blackstrobe (Yes you can fuck that nazi trance off) and/or that matthew dear is Audion/False (and from Texas).

So the big promoting companies work on the safe side and to their advantage, because in Texas the electronic business is focused on EDM (Trance) not european Techno.

However, it's surprising to see that Henry (Chow) has enough balls to throw down some pretty impressive parties in Austin with people like Agaric, now if only there were more people like him doing more stuff in Texas - we'd all be happy with our scene. But, we all have to live in one big room where there is no diversity IMO.

this wasn't a rant, just a cold and brief analysis (with cherries on top).


And the winner is....Digz.
Right on le fucking point! I'd like to see more of Sasha/Digweed (by the way, that right there is another thread I'll be making soon...hahah!), more bedrock artists, and at the same time different genre producers step foot in TX soil. I think if we collaberated with artists like these, the scene in here would widen alot more and we would have a much diverse range of people in our scene.

More techno, minimal, and even experimental artists would be bliss to this scene! But, keep the damn trance in TX and leave it alone. I do listen to trance still, but I listen more to different genres than just trance.






















All I know, is that everyone on this forum can suck my feet.


Posted by Zild on May-29-2008 21:41:

I blame the idiots who go to every show no matter if they really like the DJ or not because you have to 'support the scene'. LOL what fucking scene? I'm too young to die laughing. But seriously it is all basic economics if a demand was created for better talent then it would be met, but as it stands everyone loves the crap they're being fed.


Posted by winston on May-29-2008 21:41:

cherries are great.


Posted by Rememberence_ on May-29-2008 22:03:

lmao @ that epic tiesto interview, it never gets old.

lmfao @ ProgMojado

Elefant ftw


Posted by jonas on May-29-2008 22:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Zild
I blame the idiots who go to every show no matter if they really like the DJ or not because you have to 'support the scene'. LOL what fucking scene? I'm too young to die laughing. But seriously it is all basic economics if a demand was created for better talent then it would be met, but as it stands everyone loves the crap they're being fed.


But in the Texas market, you do have to support it to a certain extent. The shitty thing about the scene is that if the mainstream headliners don't draw, then the promoters usually will just start bringing less artist instead of different artists.


Posted by Matthias on May-30-2008 00:02:

quote:
Originally posted by progressiveMOJO
instead how about focusing on finding

c) good opening DJs, instead of the usual garbage that leaves me wondering how the person got out of the bedroom.



+1


Posted by Matthias on May-30-2008 00:27:

quote:
Originally posted by architect1803
Ok. What makes you think that an opener outplaying a headliner would be the coolest thing ever? Obviously, if something like that were to occur, do you think that headliner's agency would want to book them back at that same venue, knowing that their crowd would rather enjoy the opener than the headliner? No. I don't think it works like that. They would lose money because the people would probably leave as soon as the headliner hops on stage. YOU FAILED.



I would respectfully disagree with this. When Dave Molina and I had the opportunity to open for the headliners we did in 2005/2006, we never based our mixing, set tempo or our track selections on being better then anyone else, we simply played to the crowd.

People here and there commented to us saying that they enjoyed our set more than said-headliners. Was it out fault a certain percentage liked our sets over the headliners? No. taste and preference might of played a part in it and I stuck with progressive house between 125-129bpm.... but in my opinion if I ever 'upstaged' anybody, perhaps they need to focus on the quality of their own sets.


I remember in March 2006 I opened for Ferry Corsten at Sky. The crowd was always pumped up from Dave Molina's set so I just kept it going. I just probably ever last hard hitting re-edit I had with me. When Ferry took over, he proceeded to rip the dancefloor a new one, afterward telling Dave and I he had enjoyed the sets. - My point is this... If an open happens to have the crowd jumping, there's really no reason the crowd should leave if they were there and paid money to see the headliner. Unless the opener is playing 134+bpm, anthems, etc etc.. there really shouldnt be any reason he should 'upstage' the headliner with more experience. If the headliner fails to deliver, that isn't the openers problem.


0.02


Posted by civicstyle on May-30-2008 02:35:

quote:
Originally posted by architect1803
Same here. Got that vid from Ryan last week via MySpace. The girl the works next door said she could hear me laugh through the wall.


Um I didnt give that video to you but will take credit for it


Posted by civicstyle on May-30-2008 02:37:

Ya, if you wanna see talent, catch it at WMC when its there for el cheapo!

But in Texas, its the same rotation of djs every year at the same month almost to the same weekend for the past couple of years. Wish I had control would bring some fresh talent in to a small venue to have a nitty gritty night of tech!

And props for bringing down Gareth Emery to Austin and Dallas.
Now lets get Audion to mosey on down to Austin again!!!


Posted by Lizandrooo on May-30-2008 02:38:

quote:
Originally posted by racing4hoes
Ya, if you wanna see talent, catch it at WMC when its there for el cheapo!

But in Texas, its the same rotation of djs every year at the same month almost to the same weekend for the past couple of years. Wish I had control would bring some fresh talent in to a small venue to have a nitty gritty night of tech!


wmc ?! yea maybe a couple years ago.


Posted by civicstyle on May-30-2008 02:39:

guess you never go to the parties at the pawn shop?


Posted by Lizandrooo on May-30-2008 02:39:

http://www.samc.net/
&
http://www.demf.us/


FMFW !


Posted by civicstyle on May-30-2008 02:41:

Yea if you can afford to travel ther for a few days...


Posted by Lizandrooo on May-30-2008 02:42:

now that this round is over, im ready for the one coming. oh its gonna happen.


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