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Originally posted by jonnystel meh. i thikn the mjority of people will be for it .. gay ppl should stay in gay clubs. lol. on the gay street and thats it.. i dont wanna see that shit when i go out..

Don't start that shit

edit: retracting all comments, becuase I don't know what's going on.

very disappointed in the format change...period.

hehe oh i wont. dont worry . and honestly .. nothing towards gay people. its cool and its their life. but the ones that make it SOOO known while out there . not a fan .

FFS do you people REALLY think AD/D or Circa are changing the format of the room because the don't want gay people there? lol

Clubs don't change format when somethings going well and successful. If they're changing the format of the room, that means that there weren't enough people going for that room. I was there a few weeks ago for Tiga and the room was dead... empty rooms don't pay your rent, your staff or your other expenses.

The official pride after party is at Circa this year by the way.

Speaking of Circa - anyone spinnin' 2nite... headliners or superb local talent?

Speaking of Circa - anyone spinnin' 2nite... headliners or superb local talent?

Isn't it a bit hypocritical that Circa is hosting the "official" Pride Week closing party this year, while quietly shoving their loyal gay club-goers out the back door?

Isn't it a bit hypocritical that Circa is hosting the "official" Pride Week closing party this year, while quietly shoving their loyal gay club-goers out the back door?

Activate: don't presume that the simple fact of them doing it is proof that it's the right decision. The room is packed every time I go in there, but ADD probably presumes that by changing the format, they can gain more new guests then they lose. I just think it's a shame, and a shitty way to operate an entertainment business. Judging from the comments of illiterate idiots on this forum who think "teh gayz should stay on teh gay street", is it really so surprising that gay club-goers would view this decision with skepticism?

The gays don't drink as much as a commercial/hip crowd will. Bottom line isn't the sexuality of the patron, it's how much they spend at the bar.

CiRCA wants to make money, bottom line.

Damn double post

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Originally posted by kotsy aren't most clubs closed friday nights?

thread winner

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Originally posted by Big Boss The gays don't drink as much as a commercial/hip crowd will...

source?

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Originally posted by MarkT source?

poppers

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Originally posted by Big Boss The gays don't drink as much as a commercial/hip crowd will. Bottom line isn't the sexuality of the patron, it's how much they spend at the bar. CiRCA wants to make money, bottom line.

hahah okay
I see more people at the bar in the ballroom than in the kidrobot room or the cinema room at any given moment throughout the night.

source: being there basically every friday since Ive moved here

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Originally posted by ExtremeWays Isn't it a bit hypocritical that Circa is hosting the "official" Pride Week closing party this year, while quietly shoving their loyal gay club-goers out the back door?

For fucks sake.

maybe I didn't make that clear enough.. but I'll try it one more time.

If the room was successful in it's "gay" format... ie: lots of money being made on the bar, then they wouldn't mess with it... because they're in business to make money. they need the money to pay the rent, pay their staff and all their other operational expenses.

if a room is not generating enough revenue... what do you do... you change the format... it's a pretty simple concept... and it's not something that people with half a brain do out of spite. they do it because it's in the best interest of their business ie: their lively hood.

and re: the pride afterparty.. i think that shows right there that the club is not anti gay.. not to mention all of the other gay oriented special events they've had and have coming up. fuck.. do a little research on gatien's past clubs!

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Originally posted by ExtremeWays Isn't it a bit hypocritical that Circa is hosting the "official" Pride Week closing party this year, while quietly shoving their loyal gay club-goers out the back door?

For fucks sake.

maybe I didn't make that clear enough.. but I'll try it one more time.

If the room was successful in it's "gay" format... ie: lots of money being made on the bar, then they wouldn't mess with it... because they're in business to make money. they need the money to pay the rent, pay their staff and all their other operational expenses.

if a room is not generating enough revenue... what do you do... you change the format... it's a pretty simple concept... and it's not something that people with half a brain do out of spite. they do it because it's in the best interest of their business ie: their lively hood.

and re: the pride afterparty.. i think that shows right there that the club is not anti gay.. not to mention all of the other gay oriented special events they've had and have coming up. fuck.. do a little research on gatien's past clubs!

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Originally posted by activate Clubs don't change format when somethings going well and successful. If they're changing the format of the room, that means that there weren't enough people going for that room.

exactly.

Sad that this venue didn't work out, I never got to experience it.
Ya snooze, ya loose.

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Originally posted by activate

or that they booked the after party before they decided to shut down the room... can't back out now.. too much moneys already been spent .. I'm not going. Kick everyone out then say come back for one more! No. fuck that. I'll listen to my friends who work there and who are fighting for their jobs and for the room they built

edit. im not saying you're wrong either.
I just don't get how its a money issue when that bar and room is always rammed. Every friday the "gay room" is easily more consistent with people at the bar/filling the room then say the washroom bar or cinema room. Of all rooms to change.. bleh.

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Originally posted by barbina or that they booked the after party before they decided to shut down the room... can't back out now.. too much moneys already been spent .. I'm not going. Kick everyone out then say come back for one more! No. fuck that. I'll listen to my friends who work there and who are fighting for their jobs and for the room they built

So are you saying that you know officially the reason they would shut down is because they don't want a gay crowd??

I highly doubt it.

Barb, clubs are first and foremost business, the owner's interest is money generation. It's safe to say that it wasn't drawing the crowd and there was money to be made in other places.

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Originally posted by MissK So are you saying that you know officially the reason they would shut down is because they don't want a gay crowd?? I highly doubt it. Barb, clubs are first and foremost business, the owner's interest is money generation. It's safe to say that it wasn't drawing the crowd and there was money to be made in other places.

I'm just going by what I was told, like i said I dont disagree with what you're saying, I'm just saying by being there, seeing the crowd, talking to people who work there etc theres never been an issue filling that room and making money.. its out of the blue. it might just be shit stirrers running their mouths because theyre losing their jobs and room but still... no matter what.. circa is cutting the best room it had for another pathetic hiphop room

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Originally posted by barbina I'm just going by what I was told, like i said I dont disagree with what you're saying, I'm just saying by being there, seeing the crowd, talking to people who work there etc theres never been an issue filling that room and making money.. its out of the blue. it might just be shit stirrers running their mouths because theyre losing their jobs and room but still... no matter what.. circa is cutting the best room it had for another pathetic hiphop room

It's really a shame.
As I opened this thread I was hoping it would be a joke.

-agreed

A busy room doesn't always equate barsales. Geez, read activate's post again to understand this concept.

Why do you think the cover for DJ driven gay special events is higher than for straight ones? It's because gay people don't drink as much. I go to a lot of gay events (as a straight guy) and I often see people paying their cover, maybe having a drink or 2, popping a pill, buying a bottle of water and constantly refilling it at the bathroom.

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Originally posted by Big Boss A busy room doesn't always equate barsales. Geez, read activate's post again to understand this concept. Why do you think the cover for DJ driven gay special events is higher than for straight ones? It's because gay people don't drink as much. I go to a lot of gay events (as a straight guy) and I often see people paying their cover, maybe having a drink or 2, popping a pill, buying a bottle of water and constantly refilling it at the bathroom.

you cant generalize that gay people dont drink as much as straight people. thats the dumbest thing ive ever heard. and saying that they do more drugs? look at the guv. thats straight. people do a hell of a lot of drugs there and their bar sales in certain rooms suck. clubs like fly, buddies and straight are obviously doing well at the bar with a 90% gay crowd.

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Originally posted by barbina you cant generalize that gay people dont drink as much as straight people. thats the dumbest thing ive ever heard. and saying that they do more drugs? look at the guv. thats straight. people do a hell of a lot of drugs there and their bar sales in certain rooms suck. clubs like fly, buddies and straight are obviously doing well at the bar with a 90% gay crowd.

Do you work in the club industry? Aren't you some 20 year clubbing newbie?

I am the most open minded straight person there is, so don't say I am generalizing.

The fact CiRCA is changing their format is because of bar sales, not this anti gay stuff you clueless people are spouting. The bar sales in the mirror ballroom on Saturdays are fucking retardo. Guess what the music format is btw. Maybe they want some of that on Fridays.

If the gays were drinking like crazy, they wouldn't change the format. For the reasons I have previously mentioned, the gays don't drink as much.

Where there is a lot of other stuff than drinking going on, the barsales tend to be lower. You pointed out yourself with the Guvernment example.

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