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Originally posted by l�cid NUCULAR!

Homer: "Nucular", it's pronounced "nucular".

Lois: Peter! Don't scare the kids about a nuclear holocaust.
Peter: Haha, you said nuclear, it's nucular you dummy, the s is silent.

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Originally posted by Gauss Do you speak Croatian?

How much Russian can you understand? I've just taken a glimpse at the Lord's prayer in Croatian (that was the first text I found, heh), and I wonder wheter it's easier for a Russian speaker to understand Croatian or the other way around. I mean...

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Oče naš, koji jesi na nebesima, sveti se ime Tvoje. Dođi kraljevstvo Tvoje, budi volja Tvoja, kako na Nebu, tako i na Zemlji. Kruh naš svagdašnji daj nam danas, i otpusti nam duge naše, kako i mi otpuštamo dužnicima našim. I ne uvedi nas u napast, nego izbavi nas od zla.

In bold is the bit I got because of my basic knowledge in Russian and in Italic is the stuff I "figured out" because it's not much differerent from other European languages (such as English/Latin). Still, I was utterly confused by most of the grammar - I didn't get why it is "na nebesima" in the first sentence but "na nebu" later on... and I'd expect the "kako" "tako" to come in the reverse order.

But I'm just a smart-arse, not a native speaker
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Originally posted by Lira [off-topic] How much Russian can you understand? I've just taken a glimpse at the Lord's prayer in Croatian (that was the first text I found, heh), and I wonder wheter it's easier for a Russian speaker to understand Croatian or the other way around. I mean... In bold is the bit I got because of my basic knowledge in Russian and in Italic is the stuff I "figured out" because it's not much differerent from other European languages (such as English/Latin). Still, I was utterly confused by most of the grammar - I didn't get why it is "na nebesima" in the first sentence but "na nebu" later on... and I'd expect the "kako" "tako" to come in the reverse order. But I'm just a smart-arse, not a native speaker [/off-topic]

I have such a hard time reading Russian using the latic character set. I can read it with the Cyrillic set, but I don't know what I am saying.

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Originally posted by Lira [off-topic] How much Russian can you understand? I've just taken a glimpse at the Lord's prayer in Croatian (that was the first text I found, heh), and I wonder wheter it's easier for a Russian speaker to understand Croatian or the other way around. I mean... In bold is the bit I got because of my basic knowledge in Russian and in Italic is the stuff I "figured out" because it's not much differerent from other European languages (such as English/Latin). Still, I was utterly confused by most of the grammar - I didn't get why it is "na nebesima" in the first sentence but "na nebu" later on... and I'd expect the "kako" "tako" to come in the reverse order. But I'm just a smart-arse, not a native speaker [/off-topic]

Same prayer, a slightly different language (Slovenian ). Just for reference. As for the "na nebesima" and "na nebu" the first one means in heaven, while the other one means in the sky. Makes the text seem less repetitive that way


Oče na�, ki si v nebesih,
posvečeno bodi tvoje ime,
pridi k nam tvoje kraljestvo,
zgodi se tvoja volja
kakor v nebesih tako na zemlji.
Daj nam danes na� vsakdanji kruh
in odpusti nam na�e dolge,
kakor tudi mi odpu�čamo svojim dol�nikom,
in ne vpelji nas v sku�njavo,
temveč re�i nas hudega.


I can understand some russian, just because some words are very similar and by context (i knew what the baddies in indiana jones 4 were saying even though there were no subtitles for them )



On topic, I am all for nuclear energy, and i supported the construction of a second reactor at our only nuclear power plant. However i fear that this plans may be forced to hold since they had a minor leak in the coolant system last month. The damn thing was fixed in an hour or so, posed no danger to anybody but the foreign press made it look like the plant was about to explode just like Chernobyl, completely ignoring the fact that because of the different reactor type a disaster like that could never happen here.

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel Yeah I have the same view. I really hope that they will find a practical yet incredible use for the waste.

There already is one...giving ordinary people awesome mutant super powers.

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Originally posted by NeoPhono There already is one...giving ordinary people awesome mutant super powers.

LOL

Totally pro nuclear.

Here's the thing about the "waste."

The reason we have so much nuclear waste in the US is because of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. But the thing is, everybody else on the face of the planet recycles the nuclear waste that comes out of the reactor for the first time. In fact, it can even be recycled past that. We can actually recycle about 95% of the nuclear waste that comes out of the reactor, ie. we REUSE the waste and produce more energy. Which means that only 5% needs to be stored in any meaningful way. Europe has already solved the problem of Yucca Mountain, but we refuse to accept the technology.

Everyone else in the world does this. The US doesnt do it because we're afraid someone's going to get to the weapons-grade plutonium? Here's the thing. If someone can get into a nuclear facility, they can get into a storage facility. We also refuse to accept reactor technology designs from other countries. So, in order to do this, if we even wanted to, we would essentially have to reinvent the wheel.

Nuclear is a huge win compared to all other forms of mass energy production. And it's safer, too. Especially considering how many people become ill from living near coal-fired power plants.

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Originally posted by Lira How much Russian can you understand?

A lot of words by themselves, but I doubt I could handle the grammar and slang.

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Originally posted by Lira Still, I was utterly confused by most of the grammar - I didn't get why it is "na nebesima" in the first sentence but "na nebu" later on... and I'd expect the "kako" "tako" to come in the reverse order.

Nebesa means heaven (another word for it is raj) and nebo means sky.
Reason why they're similar is probably because heaven should be somewhere up there. (But of course, I don't believe in heaven and hell).
And don't be confused with the grammar, don't even try to understand it, Croatian language has one of the toughest grammars in the world.
We have 7 cases, compared to only 4 in English, for example.

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Originally posted by Ang ' ela_ie Totally pro nuclear. Here's the thing about the "waste." The reason we have so much nuclear waste in the US is because of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. But the thing is, everybody else on the face of the planet recycles the nuclear waste that comes out of the reactor for the first time. In fact, it can even be recycled past that. We can actually recycle about 95% of the nuclear waste that comes out of the reactor, ie. we REUSE the waste and produce more energy. Which means that only 5% needs to be stored in any meaningful way. Europe has already solved the problem of Yucca Mountain, but we refuse to accept the technology. Everyone else in the world does this. The US doesnt do it because we're afraid someone's going to get to the weapons-grade plutonium? Here's the thing. If someone can get into a nuclear facility, they can get into a storage facility. We also refuse to accept reactor technology designs from other countries. So, in order to do this, if we even wanted to, we would essentially have to reinvent the wheel. Nuclear is a huge win compared to all other forms of mass energy production. And it's safer, too. Especially considering how many people become ill from living near coal-fired power plants.

This all boils down to the "We are the US and we have to re-invent everything, including the wheel." syndrome that the US has. I really fucking hate that about the US so much. Nothing can be borrowed. We always have to have our own, more costly and less effective, way of doing things.

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Originally posted by Gauss My final work for graduation was about nuclear plants and their effects on ecology. So, simply put, I'm all for it because there are far more pros than cons. With proper education of people who maintain power plants and proper disposal of nuclear waste, there should be no problems. Impact of nuclear plants on ecology is negliable compared to enormous ammounts of energy they give. Also, taken into account that we're quickly running out of fossil fuels that run thermal power stations, I think everything has been said.

A big fat +1 to that

Oh and link me to your paper. I will read it

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel I have such a hard time reading Russian using the latic character set. I can read it with the Cyrillic set, but I don't know what I am saying.

I feel your pain - it takes a while for me to "recognise" it in the Latin alphabet as well...

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Originally posted by Moongoose Same prayer, a slightly different language (Slovenian ). Just for reference. As for the "na nebesima" and "na nebu" the first one means in heaven, while the other one means in the sky. Makes the text seem less repetitive that way Oče na�, ki si v nebesih, posvečeno bodi tvoje ime, pridi k nam tvoje kraljestvo, zgodi se tvoja volja kakor v nebesih tako na zemlji. Daj nam danes na� vsakdanji kruh in odpusti nam na�e dolge, kakor tudi mi odpu�čamo svojim dol�nikom, in ne vpelji nas v sku�njavo, temveč re�i nas hudega.

hhmm... I find it harder to understand Eslovanian than Croatian, although I'm somewhat glad that this time around the language stuck with "nebesih" and didn't mind the repetition
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Originally posted by Moongoose I can understand some russian, just because some words are very similar and by context (i knew what the baddies in indiana jones 4 were saying even though there were no subtitles for them )

Interesting

I've got to watch that film now, hehehe.

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Originally posted by Gauss A lot of words by themselves, but I doubt I could handle the grammar and slang. Nebesa means heaven (another word for it is raj) and nebo means sky. Reason why they're similar is probably because heaven should be somewhere up there.

Hehehe, I like your thinking

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Originally posted by Gauss And don't be confused with the grammar, don't even try to understand it, Croatian language has one of the toughest grammars in the world. We have 7 cases, compared to only 4 in English, for example.

I'm used to cases, don't worry, and I actually prefer languages that do have some kind of case marking (even if it's exotic for European standards, such as Japanese), because it's so much easier to understand a sentence when each word tells you why they're there

Unless, of course, it's something like Finnish, with all its 15 cases... I've said it before and I'll say it again - if there's a devil, he's definitely Finnish

Do you know what the Russian word for wormwood is???



CHERNOBYL!

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Originally posted by CleverName Do you know what the Russian word for wormwood is??? CHERNOBYL!

I find it funny that "Chernobyl" sound like "Was Black"... is it lime now or something?

Re: Nuclear Power

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel With all the green intiatives and all that, what are your thoughts on it? I am all for it, even though we have yet to find a solution for long term disposal and storage of the spent nuclear waste. I saw that they are testing the viability of the Yucca Mountain Nuclear storage facility and this piqued my interest in what you c0r whores thought. Format: For or against. If against, why. What are your concerns regarding nuclear power and its associated risks, waste, etc.

correct me if im wrong but i thought disposal of nuclear waste was 100% environmentally friendly aslong as it was sealed in sealproof lead containers and buried.

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Originally posted by Lira I find it funny that "Chernobyl" sound like "Was Black"... is it lime now or something?

Sounds more like "Black White"
Cherno = Crno = Black
Byl = Bjelo/Bilo/Bil = White

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Originally posted by Fledz Sounds more like "Black White" Cherno = Crno = Black Byl = Bjelo/Bilo/Bil = White

Yeah, that too

Anyway, just for fun, I googled the etymology of "Chernobyl", and this is what I found: The city is named after the chornobyl' grass, or mugwort. The word itself is a combination of chornyi (чорний, black) and byllia (билля, grass blades or stalks), hence it literally means black grass or black stalks.
http://www.eduqna.com/Words-Wordpla...wordplay-3.html

Can anyone confirm that? Oh, and sorry for hijacking your thread, gehz

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Originally posted by Fledz Sounds more like "Black White" Cherno = Crno = Black Byl = Bjelo/Bilo/Bil = White

The proper word for black in Russian is Chorniy. As in ЧЕРНЫЙ ОБЕЗЬЯНА. All the Russians will know what that means, and what it is in reference to.

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Originally posted by AustralianGQ correct me if im wrong but i thought disposal of nuclear waste was 100% environmentally friendly aslong as it was sealed in sealproof lead containers and buried.

That is correct, so long as the spent fuel rods are stored properly.


On a side note, I hope in my lifetime to see an anti-matter power plant which would put out more power than a fusion reactor.

It is currently the best source of energy we have, however the transport of waste and materials somewhat worries me

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Originally posted by Fledz A big fat +1 to that Oh and link me to your paper. I will read it

I've got it saved as Word document. Want me to send it to you?

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Originally posted by RJT All for it - I've actually had this conversation a few times to relatively deep degrees with Myra's brother (who is a nuclear engineer). The impact on the environment, specifically when it comes to greenhouse gas emissions, is minuscule compared to that of coal or other fossil fuels. It's also genuinely renewable, meaning our energy concerns regarding fossil fuels can be drastically reduced by the creation of more nuclear plants, and it is also incredibly safe (contrary to what a lot of the public believes). The biggest concern is waste storage, however, it seems most people who want to bang that drum fail to realize how sound a job the government does of regulating nuclear waste, and also seem to give up on the prospect that we will ever find any practical application for what we now know as "nuclear waste." Simply put, nuclear power is the one issue I think the "green" folks and the economists can agree on. Financially and environmentally responsible power.

Correct on all counts.

Clueless people cite Chernobyl as a hallmark, but there is a story behind that, and I doubt it will ever happen again.

However, I think terrorism poses a serious risk to nuclear plants. I'm not sure how easy it is to override safe guards to overload a reactor, but, as we have seen, the consequences are horrific.

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Originally posted by Beat Blog Clueless people cite Chernobyl as a hallmark, but there is a story behind that, and I doubt it will ever happen again.

Exactly, it was a mistake made by employees who obviously didn't know what they were doing.

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Originally posted by Beat Blog Clueless people cite Chernobyl as a hallmark, but there is a story behind that, and I doubt it will ever happen again. However, I think terrorism poses a serious risk to nuclear plants. I'm not sure how easy it is to override safe guards to overload a reactor, but, as we have seen, the consequences are horrific.

+1

Stop whining about terrorists ffs.

World is getting hotter by the minute and you guys are worried about some arab dude who might get some radiation poisoning.

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Originally posted by trewqy Stop whining about terrorists ffs. World is getting hotter by the minute and you guys are worried about some arab dude who might get some radiation poisoning.

Some Arab dude? And what about the millions of other people when the waste spreads via air?

http://gizmodo.com/393119/scientist...time-in-decades

It's all about cold fusion

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