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His mix compilation called 'Another World' is still my favorite cd.

The best trance compilation ever, hands down.

Its a good CD full of some nice classics, but its partly ruined by the idiotic mixing out of the break of PvDs mix of Binary Finary. WTF loss of energy.

I don't really see why the hype is justified these days. If you heard the tracks first on Tranceport then I'm sure there's nostalgia appeal, but the mixing is very lazy and the programming downright terrible really. It's practically the archetype of the poorly constructed epic trance set. It doesn't touch the stuff he was doing a couple of years prior, such as Perfecto Fluoro.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J I don't really see why the hype is justified these days. If you heard the tracks first on Tranceport then I'm sure there's nostalgia appeal, but the mixing is very lazy and the programming downright terrible really. It's practically the archetype of the poorly constructed epic trance set. It doesn't touch the stuff he was doing a couple of years prior, such as Perfecto Fluoro.

Its all about the track selection, all these classics mashed together in that specific order.


I really never cared about the mixing. Trance had always litlle to do with mixing anyway.

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Originally posted by Dj Dizzy Traceport remains to be my definitive answer to anyone who wants to here "real" (or "classic" nowadays) trance

Sorry, but Tranceport isn't anywhere close to "real" or "classic" trance. Try something more along these lines:

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Originally posted by PETRAN I really never cared about the mixing. Trance had always litlle to do with mixing anyway.

Maybe not if you just want to talk whimsically about the "special atmosphere" of the music.

Also, since we're on the subject of Tranceport, here's an anecdote:

When I was a youngin' (about 12-13 at the time) and I heard Tranceport for the first time, it was entirely by accident. A friend had loaned me a burned CD with some warez (haha oh man... haven't used THAT word in a while ), and it also had Tranceport on it, which I grabbed out of curiosity. I had never heard music like that before, and the tracks blew me away.

All of the tracks were seperate files, however, and they were all somewhat mis-labeled and out of order. As a result, it took me several months of repeated listenings before I realized "hey wait.... they're supposed to string together!" after I noticed bits of another song creeping in on the outgoing beats. Even then, I thought it nothing more than a neat gimmick, and I felt no inclination to listen to them together in the appropriate order. It wasn't until later when I started listening to good DJ sets that I fell in love with the concept of mixing, and how it could flow seamlessly through multiple tracks.

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Originally posted by nrjizer Sorry, but Tranceport isn't anywhere close to "real" or "classic" trance. Try something more along these lines:

Sorry too, but I argee with Petran.
Examples above are great old trance tracks, but to me that still doesn't make them classics. They just don't give me that special feeling Petran is talking about.

Has there been a topic: "What make a track a classic?"?

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Originally posted by Trance-MB Sorry too, but I argee with Petran. Examples above are great old trance tracks, but to me that still doesn't make them classics. They just don't give me that special feeling Petran is talking about. Has there been a topic: "What make a track a classic?"?

Your own subjective tastes and nostalgia may make Tranceport a "classic" for you, but the fact remains that the roots of the genre go much, much deeper than Tranceport. If you're trying to introduce someone to "real" or "classic" trance through Tranceport then you're neglecting a majorly significant period in the history of the genre--a period which produced music that I feel was lightyears better than what was being created in the Tranceport era.

You wouldn't try and teach someone US History by beginning at the Civil War, so why would you try and introduce someone to "classic" trance by starting with Tranceport?

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Maybe not if you just want to talk whimsically about the "special atmosphere" of the music.

Yep, "whimsical talking about special atmosphere" is what i do now. I'm over the "nerdy analysis of music" thing, especially good-time club-music, since sophistication and fun contradict each other. We can talk about science if you want though

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Originally posted by nrjizer Your own subjective tastes and nostalgia may make Tranceport a "classic" for you, but the fact remains that the roots of the genre go much, much deeper than Tranceport. If you're trying to introduce someone to "real" or "classic" trance through Tranceport then you're neglecting a majorly significant period in the history of the genre--a period which produced music that I feel was lightyears better than what was being created in the Tranceport era. You wouldn't try and teach someone US History by beginning at the Civil War, so why would you try and introduce someone to "classic" trance by starting with Tranceport?

I do understand what you mean, I have many Trance cd's starting around 1993. But on the other hand, showing someone a classic sportscar to me would be a 70's Porsche 911 and not a sportscar build in the 50's. That would be called a museum piece. Different views, all okay IMO. To me "Scooter - Cosmos" is a real classic. Old but still can be played nowadays without noticing it's age.

So, El Nino didn't invent Vocal Trance?

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Originally posted by SuspicionVandit So, El Nino didn't invent Vocal Trance?

Dance2Trance?

Was El-Ninio vocal-trance? Unless you are talking about that dodgy female latin voice screaming "majika"! lol.


And anyway, vocal-trance tunes are mucch older. Ehm Jam and Spoon anyone?

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Originally posted by PETRAN Was El-Ninio vocal-trance? Unless you are talking about that dodgy female latin voice screaming "majika"! lol. And anyway, vocal-trance tunes are mucch older. Ehm Jam and Spoon anyone?

Have "Tripomatic Fairytales 2001" somewhere + some singles.

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Originally posted by Trance-MB Have "Tripomatic Fairytales 2001" somewhere + some singles.

Classic trance album. Has from trippy (Odyssey to Anyoona) to more cheesy vocal-trance (Right in the Night-with the classic quitar riff). I still listen to it from time to time. i don't know but every summer i get this nostalgia for a lot of EDM i used to listen as a teen in the 90s. Somehow i can't get this feeling anymore from the majority of modern EDM, except for the odd detroit techno, prog-house and/or epic-trance tune. But these are very rare these days (at least for me).

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Originally posted by PETRAN Classic trance album. Has from trippy (Odyssey to Anyoona) to more cheesy vocal-trance (Right in the Night-with the classic quitar riff). I still listen to it from time to time. i don't know but every summer i get this nostalgia for a lot of EDM i used to listen as a teen in the 90s. Somehow i can't get this feeling anymore from the majority of modern EDM, except for the odd detroit techno, prog-house and/or epic-trance tune. But these are very rare these days (at least for me).

Right in the Night especially with the ultra-long guitar intro was great. I like to listen Jam&Spoon - Follow Me so now and then, one of my favorite tracks.

Yes, this feeling is hard to find these days. I'm lucky that I love tracks like Solarstone-4Ever, also with guitars and "vocals" by the way.

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Originally posted by palm

now THAT'S what I call trance. much better than that stuff nrjizzer posted.

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Originally posted by stev�sto now THAT'S what I call trance. much better than that stuff nrjizzer posted.

Classic trance for the win, great twisted, hypnotic music. I actually like everything, Harthouse, MFS and especially Eye-Q! Great music.



But i also like mid-to-end-90s more melodic/cheesy/epic trance, maybe because i used to be in my teenage years during that sound and i remember stuff like BBE- "Seven Days and One Week" and Robert Miles, "Children" on T.V. and stuff.

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Originally posted by stev�sto now THAT'S what I call trance. much better than that stuff nrjizzer posted.

Umm... those are exactly the sort of tracks I was referring to (i.e. pre-Tranceport era BS--good call on Hale Bopp btw). So thanks for agreeing with me

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Originally posted by PETRAN Yep, "whimsical talking about special atmosphere" is what i do now. I'm over the "nerdy analysis of music" thing, especially good-time club-music, since sophistication and fun contradict each other

It must suck to be you if you've never found something both sophisticated and fun. And just because you don't care about DJing doesn't make people who do nerdy. DJing is about recontextualisation of music and it's what makes dance music unique. Go listen to GU013 for a '99 era trance compilation with superb mixing and programming. It can be done and it sounds so much better than when the DJ just can't be bothered.

some more


omg i have more:


im starting to understand why im such an outcast

People can argue all they want but it was inevitable that trance was going to turn into what it did with the tracks on Tranceport. For many people who got into trance in the late 90s, Tranceport was their first exposure to the music, especially in the United States. There wasn't (and still isn't) that many trance CDs in America, let one CDs with "classic" trance or goa/psy. That's why I think it has this special feeling for people, even with trance being older.

The CD is 10 years old and I am sure in the next decade many of the tracks on that CD will be considered "classics" as far as the more melodic, epic stuff goes, but I wouldn't say that CD was exactly all epic trance, it had a good variety of more hypnotic stuff (Cafe Del Mar, Words, 1998, Enervate, Time, Purple) with more melodic, almost epic stuff (Greece 2000, Rendezvous, Someone, El Nino, Gamemaster).

Ferry Corsten also remixed some amazing complitation for Ministry Of Sound: Trance Nation

No complains on the mixing by me.
Talking about classics, many now have become that:

I have 1 and 2:
Trance Nation One

Trance Nation Two

Trance Nation Three

Trance Nation Four

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