I love my tribal and always will and I don't give a shit what anyone thinks!
And yes the new age tribal is garbage but there is nothing wrong with going down memory lane once in a while!
Posted by MissK on Jun-20-2008 20:52:
quote:
Originally posted by Big Boss
And they aren't even really playing that much tribal anymore.
Tribal is dated music that had its day. Now the tribal being produced these days is horrible, nothing good like the tribal from 3-4 years ago.
People, get over it and please join us in 2008.
and what is that, the 849575638394757659372628489575 time we've heard you say that?!?!?!
Posted by barbina on Jun-20-2008 20:54:
quote:
Originally posted by LightsOut
I'll cream my pants if lawler goes for tribal
I have to agree
I doubt that he'll play anything disappointing that night
cannot wait <3
Posted by Cuzo on Jun-20-2008 20:59:
I wonder if anyone is gonna dive off the Skybar with a magnum of grey goose, and this hes superbotchman
or better yet maybe a fecal attack in the vip area.
Did someone shit on the coats?
Posted by Big Boss on Jun-20-2008 21:06:
quote:
Originally posted by iLLnaDa
I love my tribal and always will and I don't give a shit what anyone thinks!
And yes the new age tribal is garbage but there is nothing wrong with going down memory lane once in a while!
I love my tribal too, but there's way better other genres of music being produced right now. All the big tribal producers from back in the day, clearly aren't producing that stuff anymore, and the new stuff sucks, so that's why it bugs me when people are still on a tribal trip in 2008.
Me, from time to time, I will listen to a Victor Calderone or Chus and Ceballos set from 2005. But again, a guy like Calderone, he has taken his career to another level by playing his "new" minimal and tech sound.
Even Dubfire is on another planet as of the past 18 months. Just totally, totally on fire.
quote:
Originally posted by MissK
and what is that, the 849575638394757659372628489575 time we've heard you say that?!?!?!
I say it, Chus and Ceballos say it, the music community says it, know why? Because it's true...
Posted by DigitalMP on Jun-20-2008 21:19:
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Originally posted by Skipper
bleep bleep bloop
click...click...click...clickclickclick
/hate
Posted by MissK on Jun-20-2008 21:26:
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Originally posted by Big Boss
I say it, Chus and Ceballos say it, the music community says it, know why? Because it's true...
awesome.
Posted by DaRoZa on Jun-20-2008 21:43:
most of dubfire's productions over the last year are sick, so i'm just hoping to hear a lot of them.. but at the same time expect to get blown away by many unheard tracks, i remember reading in an interview that dubfire likes to find unique sounding producers and push their sounds. haven't heard any sets since his essential mix, but given that and some techier deep dish sets from 2007, i highly doubt he'll disappoint..
and lawler.. i also like his recent space set.. and viva london still gets a lot of play from me. i hope he plays his own femme fatale on skybar before sunrise, can't think of a more fitting track!
also, i think people who complained about steve lawler being too slow will be happy if dubfire raises the bpm by a few notches with his influence. but as knox said to me.. skybar can never really be too banging friggin condos and acoustics
but who knows what direction they will take when playing next to each other - it could be very random.. but all i know is when i leave i will look something like brian peppers
Posted by geroin on Jun-20-2008 21:57:
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Originally posted by Grinder
"If you want to hear tribal, go see Chus and Ceballos" - Steve Lawler
LOL
Posted by Cribby on Jun-20-2008 21:58:
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Originally posted by iLLnaDa
I love my tribal and always will and I don't give a shit what anyone thinks!
And yes the new age tribal is garbage but there is nothing wrong with going down memory lane once in a while!
Posted by Cribby on Jun-20-2008 21:58:
Re: Re: What can we expect from Lawler & Dubfire Musically?
quote:
Originally posted by Knox LawlerHouse
Pretty much one word to sum it up.
<3
Posted by Skipper on Jun-20-2008 22:08:
quote:
Originally posted by Big Boss
And they aren't even really playing that much tribal anymore.
Tribal is dated music that had its day. Now the tribal being produced these days is horrible, nothing good like the tribal from 3-4 years ago.
People, get over it and please join us in 2008.
here we go for the 1000th time on the tribal tirade!
Posted by PurpleHaze on Jun-20-2008 22:28:
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Originally posted by MissK
and what is that, the 849575638394757659372628489575 time we've heard you say that?!?!?!
Somewhere around there.
And I don't believe that 2008 Tribal sucks....it's just "2008 modern day Tribal" which obviously is now theoretically called "tech-tribal".
Check out the likes of D-Unity, Carlos Fauvrelle, Carlos Manca, Kult of Krameria, Richie Santana & Peter Bailey productions. Sure they all have their "tech" and "minimal" sounds which they put out, but I can guarantee 75% of their tracks are tribal influenced.
Anyways, back on topic.
YES LAWLERHOUSE!
Lawler at Pacha (20-03-2008) *PS - I can hear a hint of tribal LOL*
Lawler playing 21st century ketchup Posted by gummybear on Jun-20-2008 23:06:
quote:
Originally posted by Big Boss
And they aren't even really playing that much tribal anymore.
Tribal is dated music that had its day. Now the tribal being produced these days is horrible, nothing good like the tribal from 3-4 years ago.
People, get over it and please join us in 2008.
and what does 2008 represent? minimal?????
as for the original thread topic....my buddy just made a bunch of cd's to get me pumped for the canada day weekend festivities..bunch from lawler and dubfire...and to be honest..mostly minimal..can't stand the stuff personally..and very disappointing IMO..i would prefer a tribal set any day....
Posted by slingshot on Jun-20-2008 23:52:
I expect to hear completely tweaked out tunes. Chuggy, deep, tweaked out tunes. On the skybar.....not too sure....very interested to see what Dubfire pulls out. Something with a little old school, deep house flair would be sick.
Posted by She_Fitz on Jun-21-2008 00:11:
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Originally posted by slingshot
I expect to hear completely tweaked out tunes. Chuggy, deep, tweaked out tunes. On the skybar.....not too sure....very interested to see what Dubfire pulls out. Something with a little old school, deep house flair would be sick.
I expect to see a very happy Sling. Posted by Big Boss on Jun-21-2008 01:46:
quote:
Originally posted by PurpleHaze
Somewhere around there.
And I don't believe that 2008 Tribal sucks....it's just "2008 modern day Tribal" which obviously is now theoretically called "tech-tribal".
Check out the likes of D-Unity, Carlos Fauvrelle, Carlos Manca, Kult of Krameria, Richie Santana & Peter Bailey productions. Sure they all have their "tech" and "minimal" sounds which they put out, but I can guarantee 75% of their tracks are tribal influenced.
Anyways, back on topic.
YES LAWLERHOUSE!
Lawler at Pacha (20-03-2008) *PS - I can hear a hint of tribal LOL*
Lawler playing 21st century ketchup
Um, "thanks" for "pointing me out" to those artists "I've never heard of", wow, I will check them out! Richie Santana and Peter Bailey? Telling me to check them out? Are you kidding me? I'm one of their biggest fans. Have you heard any of their latest productions? Carlos Fauvrelle...? I liked him before he was "cool".
Anyway, here's bits and pieces of that Lawler interview from last year, I think some of you need to re-read.
Steve Lawler: Tribal survivor
Former tribal house don Steve Lawler tells RA why he won't be bringing back the drums.
Steve Lawler made his name championing a seedy concoction of house and tribal progressive on compilations with ominous names like 'Dark Drums' and 'Lights Out', but mention the 'T' (tribal) or the 'D' word (drums) to the man these days and he's quick to point out that he's left all that behind. The sinister voices, creepy synths and bongo bonanza that once characterised a Lawler set have been turfed, and like many of progressive's former henchmen, Lawler has turned to a blend of European electrohouse, deeper tech house and even the odd dash of minimal.
What's exciting you now in dance music?
There's always something exciting me. It's got to excite me because I need to enjoy what I do. I can't stand on stage and just play music. It bores me. I think music should be an exciting thing that feeds you. But to answer your question, a few years ago, this kind of minimal sound became a bit trendy. I didn't like that particular style of music. There was nothing there for me. It was thin and emotionless. But then that kind of gave people the licence to write deep music again, music that wasn't all about extra production. Instead of more, more, more, it started to be about less, less, less, which was a fucking good thing because that was exactly what dance music needed. Dance music in the last few years has been phenomenal because people have gone bollocks to the big drum rolls, bollocks to overcooking everything, the breakdowns and crowd reaction.
Yes, maybe that's one reason why progressive has slipped off a lot of people's radars.
Yeah, obviously when the DJ became popular, then everybody wanted to be a DJ, which means you had DJs standing on a stage taking all the glory for other people's music. Then all of a sudden every record had a big break or a big drumroll and it just became about glory and over a period of years, the music started to lose its groove. House music is about a groove. It's about jacking out on one simple loop for four minutes. But progressive lost that. It became the pop of electronic music.
So why the change?
When my first 'Dark Drums' album was released, I really honed in on a particular rhythm, a particular style of song, and then all of a sudden over the course of two or three years, the tribal sound became massive, and you had people making that style of music for the wrong reasons. Then of course diluted versions of that style came through and people got bored of it. That's the way it worked for me. Everybody was playing tribal and there were less and less good records to play. Sometimes I get fans saying to me on chatboards, "Bring back the drums". They don't like that the percussion is more intricate, more electronic sounding and not made out of real bongos. These people don't know what they're talking about. I don't mean to be rude but it's pathetic. If I were still playing that heavy tribal percussive sound, I wouldn't be DJing now. I'd be bored shitless. I'd be doing something else.
Didn't Danny Tenaglia release a track subtitled 'Bring Back The Drums' last year?
Yeah, he did. (laughs) There's a lot of stuff like that still coming out on labels like Stereo, that kind of Iberican sound. Some amazing music comes out of those labels but as a DJ to just focus on that I think is slightly narrow minded when there's so much other good stuff out there. I heard Tenaglia play in Ibiza last year at Space and he played some amazing music which actually reminded me more of the Danny Tenaglia I fell in love with back in the early nineties. He dropped stripped back sounds and mixed it up with deep sexy vocal stuff. To me, that's Tenaglia. The whole big drum thing isn't really what I would associate him with although I guess that is what he's often associated with.
I guess fans don't like it when artists change. Finally, what's your take on people who don't like the fact you're not playing tribal anymore?
Well personally, I think people should stop moaning and taking things so seriously. At the end of the day if a punter goes to see a DJ and he's thinking, "Oh. He's not playing that anymore". Then don't go see him again. Go see someone else who is playing that sound. I've got a base of fans that understand what I do musically, and they move with me. They understand my music is about the feeling, the atmosphere. It's more about the sounds as opposed to the styles. The fans that are disappointed with me because I'm not playing tribal drums anymore, I just don't get them. Go and see Chus & Ceballos. They're playing tribal drums, you know?
i am expecting chugggga chugggaa chuggga chuuggggga blipp blopp doo doo waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Posted by Knox on Jun-21-2008 02:48:
quote:
Originally posted by jchung52
chugggga chugggaa chuggga chuuggggga blipp blopp doo doo waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
YES!
LaWlEr HoUsEPosted by kotsy on Jun-21-2008 04:21:
quote:
Originally posted by jsibilin
anyone going to start a rolling call? stefano.. u should of just made it the roll call!
too early for a roll call
Posted by VDub on Jun-21-2008 13:54:
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Originally posted by LightsOut
I'll cream my pants if lawler goes for tribal
Are you out of your fuckin mind??
Posted by VDub on Jun-21-2008 13:56:
This event is going to be sloooooowwwwww and booooooooooooorrrrringgggg.........
bleep blop womp womp womp...
Gay...
Posted by VDub on Jun-21-2008 13:57:
quote:
Originally posted by iLLnaDa
I love my tribal and always will and I don't give a shit what anyone thinks!
And yes the new age tribal is garbage but there is nothing wrong with going down memory lane once in a while!
+++ times a million...
Posted by Pett on Jun-21-2008 14:18:
quote:
Originally posted by VDub
This event is going to be sloooooowwwwww and booooooooooooorrrrringgggg.........
bleep blop womp womp womp...
Gay...
thats what she said
bleep blop womp womp womp? SIkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk!
haven't heard tunes like that in a while!
Thanks for the news man, im fuckin pumped now.
Posted by Cribby on Jun-21-2008 20:28:
quote:
Originally posted by slingshot
Something with a little old school, deep house flair would be sick.
The last few hours or so when Dub played Guv last year was just that. Loved it. <3
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friggin condos and acoustics 
Richie Santana and Peter Bailey? Telling me to check them out? Are you kidding me? I'm one of their biggest fans. Have you heard any of their latest productions? Carlos Fauvrelle...? I liked him before he was "cool".