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Posted by drizzt81 on May-23-2002 15:34:

quote:
Originally posted by Miss Proximus
That girl can have my body while I can have hers ok? nice!! takes natural talent to look like that eh


yes, i would assume so.. no matter how hard/ much i work out, i just cannot look really good... some people eat like 5x as much as i do, and have 1/2 the amt. of execise, yet are stull skinnier!!!


Posted by Civic on May-23-2002 17:45:

hehe jo die schaut doch ganz gut aus, vieleicht kriegt sie auch noch den "kein-h�schen-bonus"

aber wie sind wir denn jetzt eigentlich von von Gary D. auf die Pics gekommen? .... jaja so endet alles bei uns Jungs


Posted by benfica88 on May-23-2002 19:17:

Ok, well maybe If she took off the cap and let her hair down, I can see her looking good.Or maybe it's just her body...

quote:
yes, i would assume so.. no matter how hard/ much i work out, i just cannot look really good... some people eat like 5x as much as i do, and have 1/2 the amt. of execise, yet are stull skinnier!!!


Remember it's not the amount of time you workout, it's the intensity. I helped a guy who was lifting,trying to lose weight. I trained him for a while and he lost more weight then and he was eating more!


Posted by j_spot on May-23-2002 20:46:

I was having NO CLUE what you all were saying in German(I think it was german...for all I know it could have been flemish)

and for all of you debating blue pants girl..she was decent. the pic doesnt do her justice. in fact the next AM(well same AM, just later) when we had left the party and friends were looking @ pics, they said..ohh her..I loved her ass, her stomach etc....the pic just aint that great!


Posted by Civic on May-23-2002 20:57:

quote:
Originally posted by j_spot
I was having NO CLUE what you all were saying in German(I think it was german...for all I know it could have been flemish)

and for all of you debating blue pants girl..she was decent. the pic doesnt do her justice. in fact the next AM(well same AM, just later) when we had left the party and friends were looking @ pics, they said..ohh her..I loved her ass, her stomach etc....the pic just aint that great!


he... first we all thought that girl needs the "paper-bag-trick" from Scary Movie2, but then we recognize, that she is sweet

very shorten summary....


Posted by drizzt81 on May-23-2002 23:00:

quote:
Originally posted by benfica88
Ok, well maybe If she took off the cap and let her hair down, I can see her looking good.Or maybe it's just her body...
[quote]

i stand by my juedgement, i'd do her, unless she has some weird STD's, in which case i would not care HOW good anyone looks, i'd keep my hands off

[quote]Remember it's not the amount of time you workout, it's the intensity. I helped a guy who was lifting,trying to lose weight. I trained him for a while and he lost more weight then and he was eating more!


I disagree with that.. if you care anything for endurance, it is the amount of time you work out. If you do any Cardio for less than 20 mins, the only thing you will burn is Carbo's.. no fat is lost. Yes, you won't gain weight -prolly- but you are not too likely to loose much body fat.
For running, if i don't do my 20km practise runs, there is no way i'd ever go the full marathon 'easily'.. i learned that the hard way.

for muscle mass gain, i completely agree with you though. short, intense training is the ideal thing, but i am not in for the mass.. i want definition, endurance


Posted by drizzt81 on May-23-2002 23:04:

quote:
Originally posted by j_spot
I was having NO CLUE what you all were saying in German(I think it was german...for all I know it could have been flemish)

and for all of you debating blue pants girl..she was decent. the pic doesnt do her justice. in fact the next AM(well same AM, just later) when we had left the party and friends were looking @ pics, they said..ohh her..I loved her ass, her stomach etc....the pic just aint that great!


1. it was german
2. we came to the conclusion -at least most of us- that we'd hit her..

do you happen to have her phone number

[edit]
argl, i am soo horny.. arlg!!! [/edit]


Posted by drizzt81 on May-23-2002 23:17:

BUTT v2



hier kann man den netten Asiatischen hintern nochmals sehen
recht am bildrand

here you can see the yummy asian butt again.. on the right end of the pic


Posted by benfica88 on May-24-2002 01:28:

Where was this party again?


Posted by j_spot on May-24-2002 05:12:

this party was in Calgary Canada..if you look on a map, its just to the EAST of the Canadian Rockies...or for relative terms, find Denver and go north. Right by Banff(ski town)

population of just over 1 mil, and @ this party, just under 1000 WEAK!

they dont know what they missed


Posted by djdawn on May-24-2002 05:48:

quote:
Originally posted by drizzt81


I disagree with that.. if you care anything for endurance, it is the amount of time you work out. If you do any Cardio for less than 20 mins, the only thing you will burn is Carbo's.. no fat is lost.

meeeeep. das kann man auch anders sehen:

Impact of exercise intensity on body fatness and skeletal muscle metabolism.
Metabolism 1994 Jul;43(7):814-8 (ISSN: 0026-0495)
Tremblay A; Simoneau JA; Bouchard C
Physical Activity Sciences Laboratory, Laval University, Ste-Foy, Quebec, Canada.
The impact of two different modes of training on body fatness and skeletal muscle metabolism was investigated in young adults who were subjected to either a 20-week endurance-training (ET) program (eight men and nine women) or a 15-week high-intensity intermittent-training (HIIT) program (five men and five women). The mean estimated total energy cost of the ET program was 120.4 MJ, whereas the corresponding value for the HIIT program was 57.9 MJ. Despite its lower energy cost, the HIIT program induced a more pronounced reduction in subcutaneous adiposity compared with the ET program. When corrected for the energy cost of training, the decrease in the sum of six subcutaneous skinfolds induced by the HIIT program was ninefold greater than by the ET program. Muscle biopsies obtained in the vastus lateralis before and after training showed that both training programs increased similarly the level of the citric acid cycle enzymatic marker. On the other hand, the activity of muscle glycolytic enzymes was increased by the HIIT program, whereas a decrease was observed following the ET program. The enhancing effect of training on muscle 3-hydroxyacyl coenzyme A dehydrogenase (HADH) enzyme activity, a marker of the activity of beta-oxidation, was significantly greater after the HIIT program. In conclusion, these results reinforce the notion that for a given level of energy expenditure, vigorous exercise favors negative energy and lipid balance to a greater extent than exercise of low to moderate intensity. Moreover, the metabolic adaptations taking place in the skeletal muscle in response to the HIIT program appear to favor the process of lipid oxidation.


Alles klar?
(hab �brigens 7% K�rperfett)


Posted by djdawn on May-24-2002 05:52:

nochmal ein beispiel wie das training aussehen k�nnte.

SOWAS von offtopic:

Izumi Tabata and his colleagues at the National Institute of Fitness and Sports in Tokyo, Japan, compared the effects of moderate-intensity endurance and high-intensity intermittent training on V02max and anaerobic capacity. (Medicine and Science in Sports and Exercise (1996) 28, 1327-1330). Interestingly, the high-intensity protocol had been used by major members of the Japanese Speed Skating team for several years; it's a real-world training plan. As you will see, however, the protocol is unique among aerobic training programs for its intensity and brevity.
Many studies have been done on the effect of training on V02max, but little information has been available about the effect on anaerobic capacity. That's because until recently methods for measuring anaerobic capacity have been inadequate. This study used accumulated oxygen deficit to measure anaerobic energy release, and is one of the first to measure the effect of training on both aerobic and anaerobic capacity.
Notice that the duration of the moderate-intensity and the high-intensity protocols are drastically different: (excluding warm-ups) one hour compared to only about 4 minutes per training schedule
Tabata's moderate-intensity protocol will sound familiar; it's the same steady-state aerobic training done by many (perhaps most) fitness enthusiasts.
Here are the details (stay with me on this): In the moderate-intensity group, seven active young male physical education majors exercised on stationary bicycles 5 days per week for 6 weeks at 70% of V02max, 60 minutes each session. V02max was measured before and after the training and every week during the 6 week period. As each subject's V02max improved, exercise intensity was increased to keep them pedaling at 70% of their actual V02max. Maximal accumulated oxygen deficit was also measured, before, at 4 weeks and after the training.
A second group followed a high-intensity interval program. Seven students, also young and physically active, exercised five days per week using a training program similar to the Japanese speed skaters. After a 10-minute warm-up, the subjects did seven to eight sets of 20 seconds at 170% of V02max, with a 10 second rest between each bout. Pedaling speed was 90-rpm and sets were terminated when rpms dropped below 85. When subjects could complete more than 9 sets, exercise intensity was increased by 11 watts. The training protocol was altered one day per week. On that day, the students exercised for 30 minutes at 70% of V02max before doing 4 sets of 20 second intervals at 170% of V02max. This latter session was not continued to exhaustion. Again, V02max and anaerobic capacity was determined before, during and after the training.
In some respects the results were no surprise, but in others they may be ground breaking. The moderate-intensity endurance training program produced a significant increase in V02max (about 10%), but had no effect on anaerobic capacity. The high-intensity intermittent protocol improved V02max by about 14%; anaerobic capacity increased by a whopping 28%.
Dr. Tabata and his colleagues believe this is the first study to demonstrate an increase in both aerobic and anaerobic power. What's more, in an e-mail response to Dick Winett, Dr. Tabata said, "The fact is that the rate of increase in V02max [14% for the high-intensity protocol - in only 6 weeks] is one of the highest ever reported in exercise science." (Note, the students participating in this study were members of varsity table tennis, baseball, basketball, soccer and swimming teams and already had relatively high aerobic capacities.)
The results, of course, confirm the well-known fact that the results of training are specific. The intensity in the first protocol (70% of V02max) did not stress anaerobic components (lactate production and oxygen debt) and, therefore, it was predictable that anaerobic capacity would be unchanged. On the other hand, the subjects in the high-intensity group exercised to exhaustion ,and peak blood lactate levels indicated that anaerobic metabolism was being taxed to the max. So, it was probably also no big surprise that anaerobic capacity increased quite significantly.
What probably was a surprise, however, is that a 4 minute training program of very-hard 20 second repeats, in the words of the researchers, "may be optimal with respect to improving both the aerobic and the anaerobic energy release systems." That's something to write home about!


Posted by drizzt81 on May-24-2002 08:54:

so, if i exercise on a bike, for 4 mins a day, with 20 sec repeats, as fast as i can possibly pedal, i will get more mass reduction and a greater increase in endurance than i would get from running my 20km loops three times a week?


Posted by djdawn on May-24-2002 12:36:

naja, wenn Du laufen willst, mu�t Du halt laufen. Training ist auch immer spezifisch.
Aber grunds�tzlich ist da was dran, vor allem wenn man die investierte Zeit/ verbrannte Kalorien in Relation zum Fettverlust setzt. Und ich bin kein Freund von Stunden auf dem Stepper oder Laufband, auch wegen Knie- und anderen Gelenksproblemen die man bei viel Training doch mal kriegen kann. (Bin in den USA 50-80 km die Woche gelaufen).


Posted by X4216354 on May-24-2002 13:34:



Was geht denn hier schon wieder??? Wir brauchen einen Moderator, der den ganzen Thread mal umbenennt! *fg*


Posted by benfica88 on May-24-2002 13:44:

Oh boy, let me clear this up. If you work less with more intensity, you're shocking the muscles wich in turn need to rebuild wich in turn require more calories. Except with this scenario, you're not burning the most calories during the workout, you're burning them after and even when you sleep. Remember this, muscle burns fat. Now running on the other hand, is a little different. I think you would really have to kill yourself in 4 minutes because I don't think no matter how fast you run in 4 mintues it's not the same as lifting weights. I could be wrong but the proof is on tv. Look at a marathon runners body and look at a sprinter's body.

quote:


Was geht denn hier schon wieder??? Wir brauchen einen Moderator, der den ganzen Thread mal umbenennt! *fg*


I'm guessing this is somehting with being off topic?


Posted by djdawn on May-24-2002 14:11:

quote:
Originally posted by benfica88
I could be wrong but the proof is on tv. Look at a marathon runners body and look at a sprinter's body.



so you are saying the sprinter has more fat??? because we were talking about fat loss, not muscle loss.


Posted by Civic on May-24-2002 17:20:

Omg
Also ich bin ja auch Mitglied im Studio und so 2-3 die Woche lasse ich mich auch mal da blicken. Will bald mal wieder mit Ausdauer anfangen aber zur Zeit wird nur ein bisschen gepumpt

Leider bin ich viel zu faul mir den ganzen Englischen Kram durchzulesen...


Posted by drizzt81 on May-25-2002 06:47:

quote:
Originally posted by djdawn


so you are saying the sprinter has more fat??? because we were talking about fat loss, not muscle loss.


I am sure that a long distance runner has more fat.. he needs to be able to supply sufficient "fuel" to his muscles for the whole run. a sprinter can do the 100m dash on all carb's while i read somewhere that after 90 mins, you are all out of carbo's, so you need to start burning fat.


Posted by djdawn on May-25-2002 07:54:

that's what I thought...

but i also thought benfica wanted to prove me wrong by saying the long distance runner has less fat (cause he is so skinny, which to me means he has less muscle).


Posted by evil_bastard on May-25-2002 08:16:

It is hard to say who has more fat. Sprinters are very muscly, which makes any fat hard to see. With skinny Kenyan marathon runners, there's nothing there either; when they stand sideways they dissappear!

It baffles me how those Kenyans do marathons, what gives them the energy? Then you've got the ultra -marathon runners or whatever it's called, who run 100+ miles


I was into fitness late last year (I joined the TA, but left after a few months when I got the bloody flu and came back to find they were doing 10 mile runs) but now I'm slowly generating a beer belly I'm worried I might have asthma too, saw the doctor about it yesterday. I fookin hope not!


Posted by benfica88 on May-25-2002 12:48:

what I meant was the sprinter would have less body fat


Posted by drizzt81 on May-26-2002 17:47:

quote:
Originally posted by evil_bastard
It is hard to say who has more fat. Sprinters are very muscly, which makes any fat hard to see. With skinny Kenyan marathon runners, there's nothing there either; when they stand sideways they dissappear!

It baffles me how those Kenyans do marathons, what gives them the energy? Then you've got the ultra -marathon runners or whatever it's called, who run 100+ miles


I know what you mean, it is interesting to see the top Marathon runners. At the last Marathon I ran, i had the opportunity to see the leaders and i noticed that the black people were all _very_ skinny, while the white guy up there was huuge. i mean the had big, muscular legs and all.. wreird thing


Posted by GMastaP on May-31-2002 20:10:

Smiley DJ

Party in Germany rulezzzzzz

But also in Belgium and Holland


Posted by kurai on Jun-05-2002 20:12:

quote:
Originally posted by jploveparade
Germans know how to party! Dutch (like me) are lame partypeople. But you just cant beat the Swiss!


GANZ RECHT GANZ RECHT!!!!!


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