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i tell u u can hear 10ms!!

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Originally posted by palm i tell u u can hear 10ms!!

how does it sound? like a supersaw?





actually you can hear 10ms in a rhythmic context but it's something completely different if you press a note and hear the actual sound 10ms later. which is by far less audible.

it could!!

Hey Auxilary Input!

Your reason refill you made a few years ago was friggin awesome, it's still one of the only refills I consistantly open ( out of about 10 gigs worth).

Soo I'd be very very interested to see what type of patches you've made for your virus, what model virus you're using... and as a virus owner myself, would like to know if you could make this available in the preset format, as opposed to a refill.

Keep up the good work

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Originally posted by ralpheeee Hey Auxilary Input! Your reason refill you made a few years ago was friggin awesome, it's still one of the only refills I consistantly open ( out of about 10 gigs worth). Soo I'd be very very interested to see what type of patches you've made for your virus, what model virus you're using... and as a virus owner myself, would like to know if you could make this available in the preset format, as opposed to a refill. Keep up the good work

Thanks!

I'm using a virus classic. I'm gonna sell it and buy a TI soon. (at least I hope I can) I can probably release my bank as it is. I was going to try and make 128 presets but I don't know.

As for my old refill. I don't know, I kindof hate it. It was made a couple of years ago, though.

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Originally posted by AuxiliaryInput Thanks! I'm using a virus classic. I'm gonna sell it and buy a TI soon. (at least I hope I can) I can probably release my bank as it is. I was going to try and make 128 presets but I don't know. As for my old refill. I don't know, I kindof hate it. It was made a couple of years ago, though.

Hate it? I guess we can often be our own strongest critics.

I was very impressed with what you managed to coax out of the reason synths, that's all. Found it very fun when I just wanted to have a bit of a jam.

Yeah, I've got a virus classic too, would like a TI, but funds are a bit scarce at the moment. So yeah, please upload the preset file if you don't mind, I'd absolutley love to see what you can come up with when using a decent synth, and not reason.

Cheers

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Originally posted by Eldritch It's because of FL. There's no delay in Cubase.

You need to look up PDC in the FL manual, it is a right pain in the arse and one of the main reasons i jumped ship

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Originally posted by Ry Thomas You need to look up PDC in the FL manual, it is a right pain in the arse and one of the main reasons i jumped ship

Looking up PDC in the manual? I tried doing that and I couldn't find anything.

Plugin Delay Compensation.
When supported the right way your sequencer will take plugins which introduce a delay to the signal into account. It will trigger the specific channels with the plugins earlier to compensate for the delay so everything plays as it should.

FLstudio's support isn't up to par and does not always correct the latency as you might expect.

I can hear 10ms latency. But I can also see the difference in color here.

The question is, why do you feel the need to move your bass forward 10ms if it's unhearable?

because some plugin latency things go near 100ms for instance, or a chain could have a delay for over a second if you have enough plugins in there.

Besides you're one of the guys that makes the wrong comparison as well. 10ms can be heard in a rhythmic context as explained earlier (as it creates a slightly but recognizable different sound, especially with the first tick at percussion this is easily noticeable), 10ms can be heard in a phase difference context (the way your hearing hears stereo sounds). But your mind isn't able to notice the latency between pressing a key and the time the sound comes out (given the latency is lower than/around 10ms). This is not a thing that's purely about your hearing, it's a combination of combining visual information with what you hear. And that's an entirely different story than the other cases mentioned before the last one.

where do i start...

1. 10 ms delay is audible on fast attack sounds like drums and percussion and on timing critical sounds like bass (changes the "feel"). on average leads and pads it's not.

2. the virus Ti works with FLStudio if you know how to set it up. The lag can easily be fixed in the fruity mixer. Just open the fruity template project from Access (C:\Program Files\Access Music\Virus TI\Documentation\Tutorials\Imageline FL Studio) and go from there. Same can be done with older nonVST versions of the virus, using midi out plugin and the built in delay in the fruity mixer.

3. Make your life easier and try Samplerobot. It makes sampling hardware synths a breeze.

4. for added "motion" of the sound little can be done while sampling without making the notes too unbalanced. But since this will be loaded into reason's sampler you can use the sampler's lfo's and filters. Using the combinator might be even better, making the presets come with effects. You could try using the virus chorus/flanger/phaser but the results could vary greatly per note.

Good luck

BUMP

Hey Auxilary, are you gonna upload your virus presets?

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Originally posted by ralpheeee BUMP Hey Auxilary, are you gonna upload your virus presets?

Here you go

http://files.filefront.com/Unfinish...;/fileinfo.html

It's far from finished, though. I have to scrap a lot of patches and there's a lot of unserious patches, too.

I also have to sort and name them properly.

Thanks alot man, those presets are very decent.

Had a quick play around this morning, some very usefull sounds in there.

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