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Posted by SYSTEM-J on Jun-24-2008 00:01:

It's true. I saw it in the paper the other day- Australia is actually much more obese than Australian experts thought. They hadn't bothered updating their statistics since 2006, and when they polled the population again, they had a "Bloody hell, mate" moment.

http://www.abc.net.au/rural/nsw/con...06/s2281046.htm

EDIT: Or read the thread about it down the page.


Posted by bas on Jun-24-2008 00:03:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
don't buy it for a second. there's no way we're fatter than the US. simply not possible.

Are you suggesting something in the media was fabricated? I won't hear of any of this!


Posted by jonze on Jun-24-2008 00:04:

i guess americans are just lazy and stupid since australia took our fat crown


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Jun-24-2008 00:16:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
It's true. I saw it in the paper the other day- Australia is actually much more obese than Australian experts thought. They hadn't bothered updating their statistics since 2006, and when they polled the population again, they had a "Bloody hell, mate" moment.

http://www.abc.net.au/rural/nsw/con...06/s2281046.htm

EDIT: Or read the thread about it down the page.


Oh, because its in the paper it must be true!

i know of the report. i spend all day reading newspapers. but statistical analysis has its weakness, and though I would certainly place us up high on the obesity scale, I doubt that we're worse than the nation that coined fast food.


Posted by jonze on Jun-24-2008 00:35:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
Oh, because its in the paper it must be true!

i know of the report. i spend all day reading newspapers. but statistical analysis has its weakness, and though I would certainly place us up high on the obesity scale, I doubt that we're worse than the nation that coined fast food.




i think the bad economy has forced people to eat less


Posted by LeopoldStotch on Jun-24-2008 00:35:

shows you shouldn't be buying chicken from 'Fiesta'.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Jun-24-2008 00:36:

quote:
Originally posted by jonze
i think the bad economy has forced people to eat less


what it actually does is force people to eat worse.


Posted by jonze on Jun-24-2008 00:41:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
what it actually does is force people to eat worse.




they can't afford the gas to go the mcdonald's drive thru


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Jun-24-2008 00:43:

quote:
Originally posted by jonze
they can't afford the gas to go the mcdonald's drive thru


so they order a pizza delivered


Posted by jonze on Jun-24-2008 00:50:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
so they order a pizza delivered




most places have added gas surcharge on deliveries.


Posted by Lira on Jun-24-2008 00:50:

quote:
Originally posted by kadomony
lol, innumeracy

Innumeracy: Mathematical Illiteracy and its Consequences


Posted by bas on Jun-24-2008 00:51:

quote:
Originally posted by jonze
most places have added gas surcharge on deliveries.

Not Pizza Hut!


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Jun-24-2008 00:54:

quote:
Originally posted by jonze
most places have added gas surcharge on deliveries.


so how do you reconcile that with the fact that we pay more for petrol than the US does?

basically, what we've got is one study by god knows who that supposedly trumps every other study done to date? im not buying it.


Posted by tubularbills on Jun-24-2008 05:49:

quote:
Originally posted by EXTREMUM
A deli clerk should know what 3/4 pounds looks like, on a digital scale.


+((3/4)+(1/4))!


Posted by Lira on Jun-24-2008 06:03:

Anyway, Brian, maybe it's not really a problem regarding Math, but a problem regarding language as a whole. She probably isn't used to thinking with fractions, and it is not part of her vocabulary at all. I remember once I told the handyman (who was fixing the water fountain), that I was absolutely parched. He looked at me and kept working. I repeated those same words, and he didn't do anything. Then, when I told him I told him I was "really thirsty", and only then he moved away and apologised.


Posted by Spacey Orange on Jun-24-2008 08:36:

you were just asking wrong. you have to say, 'put a pound on it and then take a little off.'


Posted by Ted Promo on Jun-24-2008 08:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Lira
Anyway, Brian, maybe it's not really a problem regarding Math, but a problem regarding language as a whole. She probably isn't used to thinking with fractions, and it is not part of her vocabulary at all. I remember once I told the handyman (who was fixing the water fountain), that I was absolutely parched. He looked at me and kept working. I repeated those same words, and he didn't do anything. Then, when I told him I told him I was "really thirsty", and only then he moved away and apologised.


He may have responded better if you had said "I'm 62% depleted of my water resources".


Posted by Lira on Jun-24-2008 11:53:

quote:
Originally posted by Ted Promo
He may have responded better if you had said "I'm 62% depleted of my water resources".



The word I used in Portuguese sounded way more natural, I just didn't know how to translate that to English, heh.


Posted by david.michael on Jun-24-2008 12:25:

quote:
Originally posted by Lira
Anyway, Brian, maybe it's not really a problem regarding Math, but a problem regarding language as a whole. She probably isn't used to thinking with fractions, and it is not part of her vocabulary at all. I remember once I told the handyman (who was fixing the water fountain), that I was absolutely parched. He looked at me and kept working. I repeated those same words, and he didn't do anything. Then, when I told him I told him I was "really thirsty", and only then he moved away and apologised.


In U S and A there is no excuse for not being able to order as such. It's pretty common here. High five.


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Jun-24-2008 14:03:

quote:
Originally posted by Lira
Anyway, Brian, maybe it's not really a problem regarding Math, but a problem regarding language as a whole. She probably isn't used to thinking with fractions, and it is not part of her vocabulary at all.

"Three quarters" and other simple fractional expressions are incredibly common in the U.S. After all, one of the coins in our currency is named after a fraction -- the "quarter." Anyone who has been here longer than a few months will know that three quarters = seventy-five cents, and I have no reason to think that she was a recent arrival to the U.S., as she spoke perfectly fluently and without any non-American accent. I'm pretty sure the problem was number-processing, not unfamiliarity with the expression "three quarters," especially given that she rephrased my "three quarters" as "three fourths" when she was confirming my request.


Posted by EXTREMUM on Jun-24-2008 16:20:

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
"Three quarters" and other simple fractional expressions are incredibly common in the U.S. After all, one of the coins in our currency is named after a fraction -- the "quarter." Anyone who has been here longer than a few months will know that three quarters = seventy-five cents, and I have no reason to think that she was a recent arrival to the U.S., as she spoke perfectly fluently and without any non-American accent. I'm pretty sure the problem was number-processing, not unfamiliarity with the expression "three quarters," especially given that she rephrased my "three quarters" as "three fourths" when she was confirming my request.


You should've thrown a curveball at her, and requested your chicken portion in kilograms. in fact, I'm going to try that, next time I go shopping.


Posted by Jarvmeister on Jun-24-2008 21:46:

Re: People who can't do basic math

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Today I was ordering some chicken at the grocery store. I told the woman who has helping me that I wanted three-quarters of a pound. She repeats it back to me; "three-fourths of a pound?" I say, "Yeah."

She puts some chicken on the scale until the digital readout says like ".45 pounds" or something. Then she says, "Is that enough?"

I say, "I asked for three-quarters of a pound..."

And she says something like, "I know, but I don't know how much that is."

I almost said, "You have a scale right in front of you that tells you how much is on it," but then it dawned on me that she probably didn't know that the decimal form of "three-quarters" was ".75."

Then she put a little more on so that it read ".65" or something, and I didn't want to bother with her innumeracy anymore, so I left it at that and paid for the chicken...


If it was me I wouldn't have been such a dick and told her how much 3/4 was.

She'd have been less embarrassed and you'd have been a decent person.


Posted by eckmek on Jun-24-2008 22:25:

I can't fucking believe you still don't have kilos and meters. It's incredible.


Posted by Ted Promo on Jun-24-2008 22:30:

quote:
Originally posted by eckmek
I can't fucking believe you still don't have kilos and meters. It's incredible.


We have them, we just call them funny names.


Posted by eckmek on Jun-24-2008 23:23:

Funny how? Like a clown funny? Do you think clowns are fun in the same way the american way of using the metric system is?


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