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Originally posted by AnomalyConcept Wow, at first reading your response I couldn't help but think you were joking. Seems like you weren't though; glad someone provided a sensible response (which I wouldn't have done, but instead would have "recommended" a pair of ridiculously expensive audiophile headphones). Hopefully your new 7506's will last long time. They are completely capable of doing so, at least some of the older ones. Hopefully the quality hasn't changed.

I love excellent sound quality and comfort. For DJ'ing its not much of a concern, considering that I am not going to be playing at big gigs, and not for a full night ... I do it for fun, and I dont even charge for my services. I do it merely for fun, meeting people and having good time. Seriously.

I got a full 5-year warranty on my 7506's so I feel very secure. Only cost me 65 quid extra

You must have some bad (or is that good?) crack if you think the 7506's sound better than 7509hd - the HD's are in a different league! I know - I got both.

I also love the fact that so many companies think they can BS people in to paying several hundred $$$'s for for cables.

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Originally posted by Magnetonium Only cost me 65 quid extra

You use "quid" to mean dollars? I thought that was just slang for "pounds", as in Sterling (although I know the Irish use it for Euros now as well) and the equivalent was "bucks" for dollars.

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Originally posted by DJ RANN You must have some bad (or is that good?) crack if you think the 7506's sound better than 7509hd - the HD's are in a different league! I know - I got both. I also love the fact that so many companies think they can BS people in to paying several hundred $$$'s for for cables.

I had 7509HD. They sucked balls. 7506's are on par, almost as good as the 7509HD. For my Ipod, at least, 7506 sounded better. The 7509HD sound is all over the place, I could tell that the speakers were not the same distance from each other, I guess thats why they call it "HD". It was really ruining my listening pleasure.

But then the 7509 (without the HD suffix) are the fucking bomb. Best pair of cans I've ever had. 3 years I had them for, dropped them many times, had scratches, even a small cut on the golden plug itself - and perfect playing. If only it didnt get stolen.

Otherwise, 7509 was "discontinued" so the only way to get it for me is from Amazon USA. Which, after shipping, duties, headaches and so on would cost me about 150-200 bucks more than the 7506's that I got.

EDIT: 7509HD are not bad cans, but for the price they are going for they are not worth it, sorry.

as far as my observations go

7506* vs HD25

i chose * but maybe would've bought HD25 had I more money

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Originally posted by Magnetonium I had 7509HD. They sucked balls. 7506's are on par, almost as good as the 7509HD. For my Ipod, at least, 7506 sounded better......

And therein lies the problem. I have to admit I was probably the last person on this planet to not have a ipod, up until a month ago when I finally got one. I can't tell you how dissapointed I am with the sound quality. They really went cheap on the DA's and tracks that I know inside out sound so different with the same headphones when played with an ipod.

I know you probably didn't just use that as your listening source alone, but play a good condition vinyl, through a nice (analogue) mixer with the 7509HD's. No other headphones I have owned over the last 10 years have come close. Having said that, I would probably feel uncomfortable taking my expensive HD's to DJ in a club, which is probably why I only bring beaten up 7506's.

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Originally posted by Stu Cox You use "quid" to mean dollars? I thought that was just slang for "pounds", as in Sterling (although I know the Irish use it for Euros now as well) and the equivalent was "bucks" for dollars.

Heheh, I've been talking to so many British people lately, kinda said quid instead of bucks by accident. Plus I buy a bunch of vinyls from UK ... have to pay ... quid

Those aren't DJ headphones!

There's a huge difference between DJ headphones, audiophile and studio reference headphones.

-DJ headphones have a CLOSED ear design (block out sound/keep sound in) and are purposely too bass heavy.
-Audiophile headphones colour certain frequency ranges to be more pleasing to the ear and generally have an open ear design (since that sounds better).
-Studio reference headphones should be flat accross the frequency spectrum and also have an open ear design.

For DJing you want CLOSED ear DJ cans. Not those AKGs and NOT 7506s.

Now about headphones...

I don't like any sennheisers. They sound good but the cups are too small, when I'm mixing I don't have time to make sure they're perfectly on my ear and I take em on and off non stop.

My favourites are pioneer hdj1000s cause they have clear highs (so you can actually beatmatch with high hats) and not too much low end - and they're sensitive (loud).

I've owned tons of crappy headphones. EVERY Sony DJ headphone, and they've all broken at the hinge or somewhere else. 700s are too bass heavy for me anyways, and they lack in the top end. I've had technics rpdh1200s too, those were the worst. WAY too bass heavy, NO high end and not loud enough (since there were no highs you had to crank them. So bad.). They were also really heavy and uncomfortable.

Ultrasones sound like tin cans. Anybody who says otherwise is trying to justify their misguided purchase. They have stanton 2000 hinges, but they sound even crappier.

Speaking of which, Stanton 2000s are good value. Decent sound with enough highs and a solid design. Cups don't swivel though. But that's why they're durable.

Avoid Stanton 3000s, they're like Sony 700s but break even more easily.

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Originally posted by Magnetonium Fuck, fuck, fuck. Yesterday late evening I went and bought the 7506's, which are MARVELOUS. Much better than 7509HD, and almost as good as 7509. But those AKG K1000 have amazing reviews. I might buy headphones like that in the future - maybe not (looks uncomfortable). They also look a bit ugly, just too 60s for me ... I mean, seriously, just look at the pics:

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Originally posted by dainja For DJing you want CLOSED ear DJ cans. Not those AKGs and NOT 7506s.

The 7506 are closed ear headphones...

Yeah, and AKG makes some DJing headphones as well. That statement lowered the credibility of all that followed.

So from what I gather, you like beatmatching with the highs, and you take your 'phones off quite a bit.

I thought HDJ-1000's had swivel joints that were prone to breaking.

I think what a lot of us want is something that we can use for DJing and for listening, so we try to find a pair balanced with those criteria.

I like the 7506 precisely because they're great for DJing and production/listening.

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Originally posted by AnomalyConcept Yeah, and AKG makes some DJing headphones as well. That statement lowered the credibility of all that followed. So from what I gather, you like beatmatching with the highs, and you take your 'phones off quite a bit. I thought HDJ-1000's had swivel joints that were prone to breaking. I think what a lot of us want is something that we can use for DJing and for listening, so we try to find a pair balanced with those criteria.

AKG makes DJ headphones but they're seriously not even worth mentioning
I've tried them...and didn't think they were anything to write home about.

I need to beatmatch with the highs because alot of the intros in the style I play don't have much low end going on for the first couple of measures. Either way, you can beatmatch with the bass with HDJs if you need to, it's very clear compared to the 700s IMO.

I've broken like 8 pairs of Sony DJ phones whereas I've had the HDJs for over 2 years without having them break on me. I think that means SOMETHING. Even if they did break now, that would make them the longest lasting headphones I've owned.

I use them for casual listening (on the bus, etc.) so I think they're adequately suited to that. They're not audiophile headphones but they serve both those purposes quite well.

Oh, last thing... BEWARE OF FAKES ON EBAY. There are SO many fake 700s and HDJ-1000s on ebay - avoid buying headphones on ebay like the plague.

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Originally posted by dainja Oh, last thing... BEWARE OF FAKES ON EBAY. There are SO many fake 700s and HDJ-1000s on ebay - avoid buying headphones on ebay like the plague.

Who the hell buys headphones on Ebay? Heheh ;-) I wouldn't even buy a used deck on there ... only CDs/DVDs/books/supplies/etc.

If I ever do buy something quality on Ebay, like lasers (which I did), I make sure to do my homework and confirm that the seller is legit and selling quality merchandise.

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Originally posted by AnomalyConcept I thought HDJ-1000's had swivel joints that were prone to breaking.

yeah this happened to me about 2 weeks ago, but they lasted for over 2 years and they still work. i must say that i dno't play out though and i treated them nicely, so they might break faster if treated poorly.

Pioneer HDJ 1000'S - had mine about 2 years and still good as new

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