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Posted by Darkarbiter on Jun-29-2008 10:47:

Wow... starcraft 2 and diablo 3 are really pushing the envolope of really bad art direction. Starcraft 2 is really cartoony, and diablo 3 just isn't dark enough (pretty cartoony too). I think all hope is lost for starcraft 2... but hopefully they can save diablo 3 or maybe someone will make some great graphics mods for both.

Diablo 2 is on my list of things to play someday... I just can't seem to get into it as much as diablo 1. I think I'll buy LOD first and then give it a good going through.


Posted by Project-K on Jun-29-2008 16:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Darkarbiter
Wow... starcraft 2 and diablo 3 are really pushing the envolope of really bad art direction.


Yup, and that won't stop until Samwise Diddier has a heart attack or something.


Posted by Yan on Jun-29-2008 19:07:

Interesting tidbits from the Joystiq Interview:

It's about 20 years after Lord of Destruction. Essentially since then, if you're familiar with the lore, Tyreal destroyed the worldstone and the general consensus was that this was going to be the big Hell invasion because the worldstone's keeping everything back. And essentially that invasion never happened and one of the many questions is ... why? And we aren't going to answer that today, but that's what the story addresses. What's happened to Tyreal since then? What's happened to Deckard Cain?

We bring back a lot of characters, not just from Diablo 2 but Diablo 1 as well. We're also bringing back some characters in kind of unconventional ways. For example, the barbarian we showed today is actually meant to be the same barbarian from Diablo 2. So we're planning on doing a lot of cool stuff to make a richer storyline.


Posted by stren on Jun-29-2008 20:56:

I like what i'm seeing


Posted by Moongoose on Jun-29-2008 21:20:

Well i guess i will have to play it, if for no toher reason than to get so frustrated by some minor fault that i will have a valid reason for hating it.


Posted by Yan on Jun-30-2008 02:19:

Slo-mo'd it through the gameplay video to bring you all the information regarding items, enemies, skills and whanot I could find.



Item Drops

�Not unique to location - some of these happen to appear in both Forgotten Tombs and Leoric Highlands.

�Only those that were highlighted (mouse-rolled over) have been added for the sake of name preservation.

�Did not add doubles.


FORGOTTEN TOMBS:

Gold
Minor Power Rune
Minor Energy Rune
Throwing Knife
Short Bow
Elixir of Vitality I
Gauntlets
Plate Leggings
Gothic Helm
Plated Greaves
Gothic Plate
Plated Pauldrons
Chipped Star Topaz
Inferior Leather Gloves
Scroll of Identify
Inferior Quilted Pants
Quilted Pants
Ancient Medallion
Short Staff
Small Bag
Minor Health Potion
Chest Armor
Unidentified Two-Handed Axe

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LEORIC HIGHLANDS

Minor Lethality Rune
Leather Gloves
Elixir of Willpower I
Amulet
Unidentified Short Staff


Area - Enemy

Forgotten Tombs - Ghouls
Forgotten Tombs - Grotesque
Forgotten Tombs - Lamprey (inside Grotesque)
Forgotten Tombs - Dark Berserker
Forgotten Tombs - Dark Summoner
Forgotten Tombs - Dark Demon (summoned by Dark Summoner)
Forgotten Tombs - Ghostly Orbs
Forgotten Tombs - Wraith (continuously spawned by Ghostly Orbs until destroyed)
Forgotten Tombs - Zombie
Forgotten Tombs - Wretched Dead
Forgotten Tombs - Walking Corpse
Forgotten Tombs - Crawling Corpse (appears when a Walking Corpse is knocked over but not dead)
Forgotten Tombs - Skeleton Archer
Forgotten Tombs - Skeletal Shieldbearer
Forgotten Tombs - Dark Vessel
Forgotten Tombs - Activated Vessel (when enough time passes, a Dark Vessel turns into one of these)
Forgotten Tombs - Thousand Pounder: Gluttony Incarnate (Area "Boss")

============================

Leoric Highlands - Zombie (same as FT)
Leoric Highlands - Walking Corpse (same as FT)
Leoric Highlands - Crawling Corpse (same as FT)
Leoric Highlands - Beast
Leoric Highlands - Skeleton
Leoric Highlands - Skeletal Summoner
Leoric Highlands - Scavenger
Leoric Highlands - Moon Clan Warrior
Leoric Highlands - Moon Clan Shaman
Leoric Highlands - Wood Wraith
Leoric Highlands - Siegebreaker Assault Beast: Living Siege Engine of Hell (Area "Boss")



Abilites

Barbarian -

Battle Cry

Rank: 5/10

Shouts out a warning, increasing defence of all nearby party members

Radius: 15 feet
Stamina: 35
Additional Defense: 200%
Duration: 300 seconds

============================

Furious Charge

Rank: 1/1

Charge directly at an enemy, smashing everything in the way.

Current Level: 1
Fury: 20
Primary Damage: 110%
Secondary Damage: 100%
Range: 85 feet

============================

Hammer of the Ancients

Rank: 4/5

A massive attack that has increased chance to critically hit.

Stamina: 16
Deals 225% weapon damage plus an additional 14 physical damage
+25% chance to critical hit

============================

Whirlwind

Rank: 1/20

Swirl in a cycle, delivering attacks to everything in his path.

Current Level: 1
Fury: 1
Hits for 25% of weapon damage

Next Level: 2
Fury: 1
Hits for 30% of weapon damage



Witch Doctor -

Horrify

Rank: 3/5

A spectral mask that horrifies all enemies in proximity, casugin them to run in fear.

Mana Cost: 10
Radius: 20
Fear Duration: 1-2 seconds
Mask Duration: 5

============================

Wall of Zombies

Rank: 4/5

Zombies erupt from the earth to attack your enemies.

Current Level: 4
Zombies attack for 15 damage.

Next Level: 5
Zombies attack for 15 damage.



Random

�Mouse icon changes from arrowhead to sword when over an enemy

�Mouse icon changes from arrowhead to a speech bubble when over someone you can talk with or ask to accompany with you

�Weapons have "Damage per second/Attacks per second/Sell Value"

�Forgotten Tombs and Leoric Highlands are successive locations in D3.


Posted by BTG on Jun-30-2008 04:08:

isn't that a little bit too much information yan?

especially since most of those items aren't even going to be in the final release.


Posted by Project-K on Jun-30-2008 04:23:

I don't have an official source for this, but I heard that there is currently a rogue class in this build. We can also assume there will be a mage of sorts (they wouldn't make diablo without one), which only leaves one more class to reveal.


Posted by Yan on Jun-30-2008 04:34:

quote:
Originally posted by BTG
isn't that a little bit too much information yan?

especially since most of those items aren't even going to be in the final release.


Just about all of those items hail from Diablo II, actually. I wouldn't be surprised to find them in the final build.

Also, I'd like people to notice the new inventory screen. Now people can wear pauldrons and leggings. Pots are in the bottom right (stackable, it seems). No tomes anymore, either.


Posted by Boomer187 on Jun-30-2008 04:50:

I loved both Diablo I and II, although I stuck with D2 a lot longer, especially after the LOD expansion.

And the game is a hack n slash on the surface, but after playing D2 LOD for too long I found many many new things to try out.


But I am totally gonna ruin my job when this is finally released. I am thinking end of next year it should be out. We should all team up when it does come out.


Posted by Yan on Jun-30-2008 05:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Boomer187
I loved both Diablo I and II, although I stuck with D2 a lot longer, especially after the LOD expansion.

And the game is a hack n slash on the surface, but after playing D2 LOD for too long I found many many new things to try out.


But I am totally gonna ruin my job when this is finally released. I am thinking end of next year it should be out. We should all team up when it does come out.


I totally feel ya. My life will be compromised.

Interesting to note: The game's been in production since, latest, August 2005. 3 years of production is a pretty long time (assuming Blizzard North's work was transferred over immediately). I wouldn't be TOO surprised if it were to come out around year-end '09. However, I'd venture to take a guess and say the release date'll be in 2010, the earliest.

A TA-clan? Hmmm... This is assuming we'd all play the same mode, right? The main choices are Ladder/Non-Ladder and Softcore/Hardcore (possibly), as far as we know.


Posted by Yan on Jun-30-2008 06:04:

I'm a bit confused about this:

Q: With the loot system in Diablo II, the player with the fastest connection often got the loot. Will this change?

A: We're changing the drop system. Monsters will drop multiple items, each player will see loot generated for them.

Does that mean that others can't grab what's dropped on your screen? That's fucking weak sauce.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Jun-30-2008 06:16:

quote:
Originally posted by Yan
Does that mean that others can't grab what's dropped on your screen? That's fucking weak sauce.


why would you want it any other way? then cvnts would be running around stealing all your loot. i believe the loot dropped is designed specially for the character.


Posted by Yan on Jun-30-2008 06:28:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
why would you want it any other way? then cvnts would be running around stealing all your loot. i believe the loot dropped is designed specially for the character.


I loved that aspect in D2.


Posted by stren on Jun-30-2008 06:46:

quote:
Originally posted by Yan
I loved that aspect in D2.


its because you had a faster connection

thief!


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Jun-30-2008 07:05:

quote:
Originally posted by Yan
I loved that aspect in D2.


they said this game was meant to cater to cooperative play, that's not very cooperative its this kind of shit why i dont play many online games.


Posted by Timothy on Jun-30-2008 08:59:

Blizzard you thiefs! ( GW has done this drop system many years ago )


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Jun-30-2008 16:40:

Wait, wait, wait, I could have sworn that D2 had that drop system when I played. I think I played it a bunch in version 1.09-1.11 or so...


Posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY on Jun-30-2008 17:03:

Looks good, I'll be in on this.


Posted by Project-K on Jun-30-2008 17:29:

I have to say I'm somewhat relieved to see the general community already criticizing the asthetics of D3. The uproar wasn't even this significant with SC2 and it got the devs to fix the graphics, so there's still hope for this. I dream of the day when blizzard finally get it through their thick skulls that no one likes blocky models, bright cartoony textures, rainbows and rabbits. FFS they even have that stupid Warcraft 3 hero glow on the axe.


Posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY on Jun-30-2008 19:01:

quote:
Originally posted by Project-K
I have to say I'm somewhat relieved to see the general community already criticizing the asthetics of D3. The uproar wasn't even this significant with SC2 and it got the devs to fix the graphics, so there's still hope for this. I dream of the day when blizzard finally get it through their thick skulls that no one likes blocky models, bright cartoony textures, rainbows and rabbits. FFS they even have that stupid Warcraft 3 hero glow on the axe.


lol they better trash that warcraft 3 junk for sure.


Posted by Omega_Blue on Jun-30-2008 23:34:

i haven't been excited about a video game in a long time, but man, this game looks fucking sick. i've only played the original diablo too (single player only), so i feel like i've missed out with D2 + the expansion packs. it's relieving to see that the gameplay/ 3/4 perspective remains the same, i had a feeling when clicking the thread that they were going to completely try to change it up..

gameplay looks fucking spectacular.


Posted by Stassi on Jul-01-2008 06:16:

I know im late on here.. but i just wanna say this game looks amazing.


Posted by MoBreakz on Jul-01-2008 07:08:

I never got into Diablo 2, but Diablo 3 looks awesome.


Posted by Breeze on Jul-01-2008 08:36:

Loved em all this one looks awesome cant wait to play it. time for a new computer also


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