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Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Jul-06-2008 22:40:

I guess going a week without dance music would mean not producing any as well.

I'd work on some ambient during that week.


Posted by Zak McKracken on Jul-06-2008 22:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Skov
Oh my fucking god. All who listens to EDM are doomed .

i managed a few weeks straight in the army but thats 7 years ago now, the adiction wasnt probably that deep plus that I was weak and absorbed all kinds of influences. Even then i remember it was hard and I bought 1210s emidiately after army to compensate. im still one year behind everything in edm beacuse of this. think im gonna try 1 week tho. and i wont be putting on other genres instead, im gonna just turn off all music. maybe my eyes will be better?


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Jul-06-2008 22:44:

Actually, I haven't played any music at all today and I'm not really feeling any ill-effects, although I have a nagging urge to put some Blue Amazon on...


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Jul-06-2008 22:46:

Going without all music for a while is a pretty weird experience. I did that once for a week years ago just to see what it would be like, and the first hours when I got back to listening again felt really strange.

If you're a big music listener you really feel the absence, since so much music plays with your emotions and stimulates your brain in ways that nothing else can, and when you give it up you no longer have that stuff.


Posted by enydo on Jul-06-2008 22:50:

That's really interesting to think about.

I basically have music playing all the time when I can. I also get multiple urges daily to listen to certain tracks, whether they're edm or something else. Kinda strange now that I actually think about it.


Posted by Skov on Jul-06-2008 22:52:

Nothing surpasses the beauty of silence, imo.


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Jul-06-2008 23:00:

quote:
Originally posted by Skov
Nothing surpasses the beauty of silence, imo.

Silence is actually really hard to find.

quote:
"Going into the anechoic chamber at Harvard University, I expected to hear no sound at all, because it was a room made as silent as possible. But in that room I heard two sounds. And I was so surprised that I went to the engineer in charge � and said, There�s something wrong, there�re two sounds in that room, and he said describe them, and I did, one was high and one was low, and he said, the high one was my nervous system � and the low one was my blood circulating. So I realized that � I was making music unintentionally continuously." - John Cage



But I do find that when I go without music, I end up paying a lot more attention to the random ambient sounds that I naturally hear each day: cars going by, the fan overhead, my computer running, people talking out in the streets, etc.

I sometimes take a portable recorder out in public, to a mall or around the neighborhood or to a restaurant, and just record whatever sounds happen to occur. Then I load the recordings on to my computer and listen back to them. I often find it oddly calming, just to listen closely to all the random, unplanned noises that the world makes.


Posted by Project-K on Jul-06-2008 23:05:

I used to be hooked to this stuff too back in the day. I'd spend a few hours a day listening to some acid, tech house and stuff like that. Once I started listening to other stuff regularly I found that I listened to less and less EDM, and nowadays I barely ever do. I think it just has to do with getting your ears used to different sounds.


Posted by Project-K on Jul-06-2008 23:08:

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
But I do find that when I go without music, I end up paying a lot more attention to the random ambient sounds that I naturally hear each day: cars going by, the fan overhead, my computer running, people talking out in the streets, etc.


Interrestingly I became like that when I started listening to music less often. I used to constantly have headphones on wherever I was, but I don't do that anymore. Now I just listen to ambient sounds that were previousely just noise to me, and sometimes they sound almost musical.


Posted by Clovis on Jul-06-2008 23:17:

I listen to it everywhere all the time. Being a DJ especially, I always have new material I want to become more familiar with, so I usually carry my newer tracks in my ipod along with some non-edm stuffs and any random older classics or resurrections I feel like throwing in the mix.

I wonder if I will eventually burn out on it like Petran has, I'm only 22. Each time I have felt like this was happening though, I just switch to more non-edm listening or take a short break and it passes.


Posted by Skov on Jul-06-2008 23:18:

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Silence is actually really hard to find.
I guess it's impossible, but you know what I mean .

This comes pretty damn close though.


Posted by Clovis on Jul-06-2008 23:23:

Fortunately a 3hr drive for me will take me deep enough into the deserts of southern California to find some real silence. Have not done it in a while though, but it is always nice.


Posted by Project-K on Jul-06-2008 23:27:

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Silence is actually really hard to find.


Thought about this for a while, then I scrolled up to check your location and it confirmed my suspicions.



Snow absorbs sound very efficiently - especially fresh snow that hasn't been tapped yet. Coming back from downtown late at night (1-2am) in the middle of winter, during or right after a very big snow storm, I go through some quiet country roads with trees on all sides. I can litterally hear my own blood pumping over the sound of fresh snow breaking up under my steps. Definately something to experience at least once. That's the closest you'll ever come to complete silence.


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Jul-06-2008 23:29:

I listen to music when I walk my dog in the countryside. I always try and soundtrack my walk with appropriate music, and it can really elevate a record. DJ Shadow's Endtroducing sounds fantastic in the autumn, but I cannot play it in the summer. It jars constantly against the tone and mood of the surroundings. BT's ESCM is an album I've often thought was a bit flawed- I gave it 8/10 because I felt it didn't achieve what it was aiming to do. That was playing it indoors. I once played it on a frosty morning walking across crystal white countryside and around a frozen lake and it sounded so beautiful it almost hurt that I wouldn't be able to recapture that feeling whenever I played it.

Sometimes I do stop the music and just listen to the surroundings, especially in summer in the countryside when there's bird song, insect noises and running water. It's a very lush, rich and detailed sonic environment. In winter, more often than not, you just get the sound of the wind which I find harsh. I sometimes wonder if I'm missing out, particularly in summer, by not listening to the natural sounds around me. But then I think back to the ESCM episode and wonder if I'd be missing out musically if I didn't soundtrack.


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Jul-06-2008 23:32:

Here's one of the recordings I talked about :

http://www.philosophaster.com/music...icket-lobby.mp3

I like to find a place with an interesting "space" if I can. This was recorded in a movie theater lobby that was really tall and spacious, with lots of big, flat metal and glass surfaces. There's a lot of echo in there, so it's hard to tell what people are saying. Toward the end you can hear a sort of crashing sound going back and forth, which was people playing air-hockey in the arcade next to the theater. And you can hear some guy yelling, "Whoa!" at the very end. I don't know what caused him to say that.

Maybe I'm just weird for enjoying random stuff like this.

I'm looking into getting a better microphone, as I lost the cheap one that came with the recorder.


Posted by B_man on Jul-06-2008 23:36:

I have never set foot in a club... besides, there isn't one around here for 100 miles. I listen to all sorts of EDM at home... lately trance of various flavors and ambient (especially when studying).

I have never danced before in my life. I digest EDM for the sake of enjoying machines making music.

Of course... my musical tastes wouldn't be complete without the mention of other genres that are acoustic/non-EDM. But that's another story.


Posted by Project-K on Jul-06-2008 23:36:

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles

Maybe I'm just weird for enjoying random stuff like this.


No, that is supremely cool. You're attaching an emotional meaning to your perception of space through sound. It gives you an interresting perception of the world. I'm listening to the recording right now and I definately know what you're talking about. Then again I know a million people who would just listen to this and just not "get" it.


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Jul-06-2008 23:41:

Wish I could have had a mic and my recorder the other week when I walked to downtown San Antonio. Lots of interesting sights and sounds, plus on the way there were some protesters singing hymns outside an abortion clinic. If I had uploaded that part without saying where I had recorded them, people would probably just take it as some everyday religious expression. Context is everything I guess.


Posted by AustralianGQ on Jul-06-2008 23:43:

quote:
Originally posted by palm
i MUST listen to it always or i loose myself somehow, my personality fades away and i dont know what the hell im doing. need it for balance and therapy, i usualy listen to edm a couple hours


Posted by SMC on Jul-07-2008 00:06:

Home listener. 3-6 hours (sometimes more) of fairly active listening every day. I listen to edm once in a while but not much in general nowadays (for example i didn't listen to any edm the past 7 days, but i'm listening to some right now). I don't care much for clubbing at all.


Posted by PETRAN on Jul-07-2008 01:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Skov
Nothing surpasses the beauty of silence, imo.



Dude, this is just an average tune by Svenson and Gielen, you can find better...!


Posted by PETRAN on Jul-07-2008 01:28:

quote:
Originally posted by SMC
Home listener. 3-6 hours (sometimes more) of fairly active listening every day. I listen to edm once in a while but not much in general nowadays (for example i didn't listen to any edm the past 7 days, but i'm listening to some right now). I don't care much for clubbing at all.



I don't consider "Amber" EDM lol (more like IDM which most of the times means experimental electronic music, possibly with some ambient lines and atmospheres, that you can't dance to)



Either way "Amber" is a GREAT album and possibly my most favorite Autechre album. It has this "mystical" childhood essence, its great. Also Arovane's "Atol Scrap" FTW.


Posted by PETRAN on Jul-07-2008 01:30:

Hello!

quote:
Originally posted by Project-K
I used to be hooked to this stuff too back in the day. I'd spend a few hours a day listening to some acid, tech house and stuff like that. Once I started listening to other stuff regularly I found that I listened to less and less EDM, and nowadays I barely ever do. I think it just has to do with getting your ears used to different sounds.




Hello!


Posted by Project-K on Jul-07-2008 02:07:

Umm.. hi


...

Are you coming on to me?


Posted by SMC on Jul-07-2008 02:09:

quote:
Originally posted by PETRAN
I don't consider "Amber" EDM lol (more like IDM which most of the times means experimental electronic music, possibly with some ambient lines and atmospheres, that you can't dance to)



Either way "Amber" is a GREAT album and possibly my most favorite Autechre album. It has this "mystical" childhood essence, its great. Also Arovane's "Atol Scrap" FTW.


I don't consider it to be edm either, but i wasn't referring to Amber, i was listening to some goatrance when i wrote that. I listened to Autechre yesterday. First three albums = awesomeness. I call it "armchair techno" btw.


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