Originally posted by Sykonee
"Hello, everyone. My name is Perception; my parents are Cass and Slide. I used to be a good song. Then some gal gave me Useless Vocals, and now my parents have disowned me."
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now perception without vocals was just plain incompletePosted by Sykonee on Jul-08-2008 22:46:
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Originally posted by isoterra
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now perception without vocals was just plain incomplete
How does some chick singing her bad poetry overtop a perfectly fine prog tune make the track complete? As I recall, the vocal was added without Cass & Slide's blessing, which would explain why the instrumental appeared on their album.
Posted by SYSTEM-J on Jul-08-2008 22:48:
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Originally posted by Nostalgic
Although I'm a huge fan of epic house and the vocals used in tracks from that genre have grown on me, I do not like the vocals in "Bedrock - For what you dream of". That song would pretty much be perfect without them.
How can you say that, man? You're losing your mind! But that's okay. Get lost in the groove, throw the keys away.
Posted by Nostalgic on Jul-08-2008 22:59:
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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
How can you say that, man? You're losing your mind! But that's okay. Get lost in the groove, throw the keys away.
I always thought the vocals were cheesy even for an epic house track, I dunno.
Posted by hooknife on Jul-08-2008 23:32:
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Originally posted by DOOMBOT
Horse - Careful (The 12" Mixes)
fail.
Posted by AustralianGQ on Jul-09-2008 00:29:
i think all of u just generally dislike trance with vocals in it...b/c any fan of vocal trance will tell u all that these tunes u guys are listing are classics! i dont know how u can dislike the vocals in any of the songs, their awesome! but thats just me.
Posted by TiestoLIVE on Jul-09-2008 03:10:
Dash Berlin - Til the Sky Falls Down
Ferry Corsten - Punk
Aaron McClelland - Spirit
Posted by cherrybarry on Jul-09-2008 04:13:
Delerium - The Silence (Tiesto Remix)
Posted by isoterra on Jul-09-2008 07:22:
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Originally posted by Sykonee
How does some chick singing her bad poetry overtop a perfectly fine prog tune make the track complete? As I recall, the vocal was added without Cass & Slide's blessing, which would explain why the instrumental appeared on their album.
yeah, aurora added the vocals for the additive re-release. while the instrumental was always nice, it always struck me as half a tune that just kind of died during the middle section, as if they wanted to add another element but couldn't think of anything. the vocals in themselves may not be anything groundbreaking but they suited the mood perfectly and made everything more.. well.. complete. horses for courses i guess
it's funny the two people i've disagreed with most in this thread both featured in my 'users whose taste you respect' list from a few weeks back Posted by isoterra on Jul-09-2008 07:23:
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Originally posted by AustralianGQ
i think all of u just generally dislike trance with vocals in it...b/c any fan of vocal trance will tell u all that these tunes u guys are listing are classics! i dont know how u can dislike the vocals in any of the songs, their awesome! but thats just me.
feel free to stop talking bollocks any time you want
Posted by JonDC on Jul-09-2008 07:27:
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Originally posted by cherrybarry
Delerium - The Silence (Tiesto Remix)
WTF??? Silence has always had vocals as far as I'm aware. And the vocals are really good too - very classy.
And as for cass & slide - perception, the vocals used are absolutly amazing in my opinion! I agree with the comment that it sounds somewhat incomplete without them.
Posted by Ian on Jul-09-2008 08:16:
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Originally posted by isoterra
it's funny the two people i've disagreed with most in this thread both featured in my 'users whose taste you respect' list from a few weeks back
you can respect someones taste and disagree tho mate, it's just a case that when you disagree you do so constructively and have reasons for it!
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Originally posted by AustralianGQ
i think all of u just generally dislike trance with vocals in it...b/c any fan of vocal trance will tell u all that these tunes u guys are listing are classics! i dont know how u can dislike the vocals in any of the songs, their awesome! but thats just me.
You're just thick. There are many great vocal trance songs, most of which you probably don't even know about, but in recent years especially the number of meaningless vocal tripe has exploded. Tracks are given shitty vocals in order to sell. Trance as a state of mind does not need vocals, but can tolerate them placed well. These days however, they're usually just cheap, tacky and plain disturbing.
Posted by Spacey Orange on Jul-09-2008 08:39:
Coldcut - Autumn Leaves (Irresistable Force Mix Trip 2) [1993]
fucking singing just kills this track for me. mixmaster morris couldn't leave it just as an instrumental. nooooooo, he had to keep the crappy vocals in his remix.
Posted by Nik Novo on Jul-09-2008 09:00:
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Originally posted by TiestoLIVE
Dash Berlin - Til the Sky Falls Down
That's because the track is crap even without the vocals
as for the thread:
M1 - Heaven Sent (Michael Woods Vox Mix) Posted by montana on Jul-09-2008 09:04:
Stephen J Kroos - Sadistick (To Be Able Remix) , it was quite easy to edit out the vocals but that didn't make them any less horrible.
Posted by Acton on Jul-09-2008 09:51:
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Originally posted by Ian
but in recent years especially the number of meaningless vocal tripe has exploded. Tracks are given shitty vocals in order to sell.
Amen to that.
It seriously annoys me when a really good dance track (without vocals) has vocals added to it so the tune can be released comercially, yeah it brings in the money which is what labels are after, but it just makes the tunes crap and thanks to this the average joe bloggs who doesnt listen to dance music instantly thinks its shit, im not suprised how many people hate dance music when all they get to listen to is the crap that spawns from tunes that then add vocals purely for a commercial release.
Posted by Trance Nutter on Jul-09-2008 09:52:
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Originally posted by TiestoLIVE
Ferry Corsten - Punk
actually I gotta agree, its amazing how much that one line of vocal changes the track, definitely better without it. it was just unnecessary.
And yeah, definitely
Toca Me/Toca's Miracle
Syneathesia/Fly Away
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Originally posted by Nik Novo
as for the thread:
M1 - Heaven Sent (Michael Woods Vox Mix)
don't think I've ever been unfortunate enough to hear it, but I'm not looking forward to the day when it does happenPosted by sleepydragon on Jul-09-2008 11:51:
push - strange world
stoneface & terminal - soulseeker
Posted by Acton on Jul-09-2008 12:55:
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Originally posted by sleepydragon
push - strange world
eh?
Posted by DOOMBOT on Jul-09-2008 13:19:
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Originally posted by hooknife
fail.
Interesting because I know I definitely didn't like them.
Posted by Kris G on Jul-09-2008 14:06:
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Originally posted by Mattsanity
this thread pretty much belongs to trance songs.
however, theres one classic prog house song that I wish removed those ugly vocals and thats leftfield - open up. that dude's presence in that joint is fucking awful god damn. is there a dub of that song? I hope there is, my goodness....
'That Dude' is John Lydon, and absolute legend and the vocals are awesome on that track. An all time classic on it's original form, striping off the vocals would kill the track.
Posted by SYSTEM-J on Jul-09-2008 15:15:
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Originally posted by Kris G
'That Dude' is John Lydon, and absolute legend and the vocals are awesome on that track. An all time classic on it's original form, striping off the vocals would kill the track.
Fully agreed. It took real guts to use Lydon on a progressive house track and the fact that everyone from the critics to the dancefloor to Lydon loved it shows how well it paid off.
Posted by Sykonee on Jul-09-2008 15:44:
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Originally posted by isoterra
it's funny the two people i've disagreed with most in this thread both featured in my 'users whose taste you respect' list from a few weeks back
Heh. It isn't that uncommon. Heck, even though J' and I often see eye-to-eye on many things when writing for TC, there are still some things we vehemently disagree upon (case in point).
I know there are folks who find the vocals in Perception complete the track. I find them unnecessary. Such is variety of opinion.
Posted by Nik Novo on Jul-09-2008 16:48:
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Originally posted by Trance Nutter
don't think I've ever been unfortunate enough to hear it, but I'm not looking forward to the day when it does happen
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