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what kind of natural phenomena travels at 1500 miles per hour (that's about as fast as a Concord jet) in space, then drastically alters course at FOUR TIMES the speed away from the planet to escape something that is projected and/or fired at it?

What kind of natural phenomena just start appearing out of nowhere above thunderstorms? What kind of natural phenomena gather in a circle, flash all kinds of lights before another thing (1.5 miles in diameter remember) suddenly appears in the middle?

Maybe this is their way of trying to get our attention. Have you not seen the footage of astronauts, airline and air force pilots from around the world chase, track and be chased and tracked by UFOs? I know there's a lot of disinformation out there and a lot of it has been mythologised in literature and film and we've been groomed to believe this possibility as "stupid" or "out there", but some of the footage you can find on the internet raises more questions than it gives answers.

If you look on youtube, you can find about three or four short clips of astronauts confirming contact with UFOs in space. One guy doing a moonwalk on a shuttle in 1989 blatantly states that he is still "observing the alien spacecraft".

There is just too much stuff out there. Larry King recently had a program about ten days ago where he interviewed two former air force guys who worked at a nuclear silo and they had TEN test (dummies) missiles somehow tracked and disabled by a UFO during a test.

I still don't know what to make of it all. Governments keep secrets from people all the time and I certainly have absolutely no trust in the American government, but I think that people would react far better to this revelation if it is disclosed in the near future.

Haven't scientists already pin pointed a few planets in our galaxy that they suspect could sustain life?

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Originally posted by Dj Smitty20 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqcmmcoTX3U I don't know how to directly post the video, but for anyone curious please go watch this recent collection of footage. NASA pretty much don't comment on anything anymore. They neither confirm, nor deny, which is really suggesting the obvious. Now, if ANYONE can give me a detailed explanation as to what in THE FUCK those things are, I'll give you a dollar.

Are people really this fucking stupid?

Yeah, the fact that NASA hasn't commented directly on some bullshit YouTube video really suggests the obvious. That is, the obvious fact that they don't give a flying fuck, any more so than FEMA and millions of civil engineers gave a wank about that dicksmack Dylan Avery and his pantload 9/11 circle-jerk. If the authorities thought there was actually anything worth covering up, they'd hire a couple of ninjas to sneak up on these doucheblossoms in the middle of the night and slice their pompous heads off.

Or maybe - get this - maybe they haven't commented because they think that no comment is better than some half-baked bullshit theory pulled out of some ignorant speculator's ass crack. Or, possibly, because they don't have the time or energy to debunk every obstreperous clack-dish who says there's a conspiracy afoot, or don't want to lend legitimacy to their asinine rigmarole by even acknowledging it.

Assuming the horrendously vague and low-quality footage isn't completely fake, and I'm not at all convinced of that, there's all sorts of shit out there like comets and meteors that all reflect light and travel very fast. Yeah, they're cool. No, they're not aliens. Maybe that doesn't explain it, but since when did aliens become the default explanation for every unknown phenomenon?

Oh, and they want to "get our attention" by flashing lights at us. Because that's so much more effective than, oh, I don't know, talking to us. Yes, that makes perfect sense. These hyperintelligent beings who crossed the galaxy to visit our pathetic primitive race simply haven't quite mastered the art of verbal or written communication, so instead they choose to communicate by playing pranks on drunks in trailer parks.

As for the interviews, a lot of smart people go totally batshit crazy. Beethoven, Keats, Michelangelo, Newton, Kafka, Lennon, Elvis, and Kaczynski, to name just a few. We've sent a lot of astronauts up there and it stands to reason that in a few cases the pressure of take-off might have compressed their brains a little. Even the great Buzz Aldrin admitted a long time ago to severe depression and alcohol abuse.

Just because they say they believe in (or "know" about) some massive conspiracy doesn't prove anything. Where is the evidence? Why have not one of the thousands (millions?) of people involved in this conspiracy come out and told us point blank what it's all about and presented something concrete? Fuck, the U.S. government couldn't even cover up Slick Willie getting a blowjob, and you think they can cover up sentient alien life forms with technology hundreds of times more advanced than our own? Right, okay, no problem!

It's so easy to get a couple of crackpots to talk shit on TV. How about some evidence for once? And I mean other than grainy low-definition black-and-white videos of some lights, which could just as easily be dribbles of peanut butter on the reel.

Gah... I just don't even know where to begin with this idiocy. Don't people have better things to do with their time? Why the hell would NASA want to cover up the existence of ETs when they also support widely publicized projects like SETI specifically presuming that there is intelligent life out there and that we want to find it? Why are we trying to crawl around Mars ourselves when we could just ask the Martians for a map? Nothing makes sense.

Claiming that any of these "UFOs" are evidence of "visitors" makes about as much sense as claiming it to be evidence of God. Simply because we don't have an explanation for something (again, assuming it's not a hoax to begin with) doesn't mean we need to listen to every idiot-with-a-mike's highly non-scientific febrile natterings somewhat resembling theories.

Just drop it. Please, do it for the children.

but meteors and comets don't appear, disappear and then reappear. They don't travel at 7000 miles per hour and they don't suddenly change direction away from our planet. And Why would comets take up a circular formation and put on a light show?

Have you not seen the number of videos out there that show military or civilian aircraft being followed? The Mexican Department of Defence, back in May, has already admitted that they exist and are unexplainable after video footage that you can call "grainy and unfocussed" as much as you want, but I'd like you to explain it Mr. Astro Physicist. The French and British governments have released major reports in the last ten years and the Belgians and Brazilians have also released sensitive documents. Only two or three years ago, one of our top airforce commanders said that ufos are as real as the planes that fly above us or some such statement.

And since WW2 there have been THOUSANDS and THOUSANDS of sightings in EVERY COUNTRY ACROSS THE WORLD. How many times did the United States used to automatically deny every UFO report? It wasn't that long ago. Hundreds of scientists, military personnel and key astronauts have also come forward. Buzz Aldrin claims Apollo 11 was followed on their way to the moon.

How do you account for this? How can you call official NASA footage a hoax?

To call this "idiocy" is pretty idiotic and naive on your part if you ask me. There is just way too much going on out there and too many people have seen too many unexplainable things for it to be complete BS.

Have you ever considered the possiblity that it the world governments haven't come fully clean with us about all this is, just maybe, they're afraid how people will take it and how it will change our society? We as a race of people have always feared what we do not understand.

How much you wanna bet Buzz is a scientologist?

the level of trust that some people put in our governments is a little startling, I have to be honest.

And don't you think, at the very least, this kind of phenomena deserves some serious attention by world governments and the scientific community? And is it not our right to know what's going on?

a bunch of guys came up to me @ wemf saying they saw a UFO, after describing it to me as an orange like streak across the sky that moved 'slowly' and then suddenly disappeeared, i told them it was a meteor/shooting star. they wouldnt believe me. they also had suckers in their mouths and candy necklaces. lol

as for this, dont really have much to say either than give me some solid proof, some high-res vids/pics, documents etc.

it's hard to get high resolution images in space though and that's certainly part of the problem. In some of the STS shuttle footage that you can easily find (several times you can hear an astronaut claiming to being followed or observing an "alien spacecraft"), images are being captured from very long distances. I'm not really sure why the footage from NASA and military agencies is always black and white and has that mirky look, but there is still something obviously going in that footage.

Nobody can say for sure at this point if we're being visited or whatever, but there is definitely a lot going on in our own skies and out in space that we really don't understand. And I guess it's just easier for people here to not think about it.

There has been a huge movements regarding the whole UFO/Alien phenomena and many peeople have come forward and disclosed about what the know about this whole subject.Main stream media has always ignored these events.

Here is Disclosure Project May 9th 2001 National Press Club Conference


http://video.google.ca/videoplay?do...gHGxvnAAw&hl=en


Well worth watching for those are into this subject.

this thread sounds like a warm up pep rally for the new x files movie, eeeep!

^^^ Thanks man, I do remember hearing about that but I never watched it.

In the first five minutes, the main speaker had made some interesting claims This is a guy who claims to have debriefed high ups in the US administration, civilian and military, about UFOs, how they've been tracked travelling thousands of miles per hour on radar and "stopping and making right turns". He estimates that so called "black budgets" in the US that deal with UFOs received 40-80 billion dollars a year in funding. Very, very, interesting. Over 400 people, again, civilian and military (many former CIA) in the know about this have come forward.

Diginut...how about you watch this and get back to us and I'll do the same. Or do you think this guy and everyone with him are crackpots too?

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Originally posted by lawrenceq this thread sounds like a warm up pep rally for the new x files movie, eeeep!

again, ingnorance is bliss. Do some digging and watch some of the footage we've been talking about and then get back to us.

The X Files sucked by the way IMO.

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Originally posted by Dj Smitty20 again, ingnorance is bliss. Do some digging and watch some of the footage we've been talking about and then get back to us. The X Files sucked by the way IMO.

haha dont take that personally, i do my homework often enough. im having a gander at the video the last guy posted, and i will get back to you.

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Originally posted by Dj Smitty20 ^^^ Thanks man, I do remember hearing about that but I never watched it. In the first five minutes, the main speaker had made some interesting claims This is a guy who claims to have debriefed high ups in the US administration, civilian and military, about UFOs, how they've been tracked travelling thousands of miles per hour on radar and "stopping and making right turns". He estimates that so called "black budgets" in the US that deal with UFOs received 40-80 billion dollars a year in funding. Very, very, interesting. Over 400 people, again, civilian and military (many former CIA) in the know about this have come forward.

Sad part is no major media did any coverage on this at all.

watcht the whole thing imo,Iam not saying you have to believe everything you hear from them,but it will def make you think for a while.


This is one of my fav parts: from 1:28:30

she talkes about some things that are just mindblowing.

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Diginut...how about you watch this and get back to us and I'll do the same. Or do you think this guy and everyone with him are crackpots too?

na dont waste any time on him bro,he is not worth it, plus he is waaaaaaaaaay too smart for this type of discussion.

I did hear about this in the summer of 2001 though. I'm not surprised it wasn't given media attention, although I think Anderson Cooper has done coverage on some kind of UFO hearing at the UN or something recently.

What is this group currently doing?

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Originally posted by Dj Smitty20 What is this group currently doing?

From what I heard the last they are waiting for the right time for a mass media disclosure.Alot of people are losing hopes and are begining to doubt the Disclosure Project movement.I can see the frustration honsetly,Dr Steven Greer has been doing alot of talking but no action.I guess we ll just have to wait and see..

Well this did take place before September 11th so it's not easy to see why this project was lost with the events of late 2001.

This is very interesting. These are all professional and credible people confirming the existence of these objects. How can people be so naive (digi?) so as to believe ALL these obviously intelligent people are suddenly insane? It astonishes me.

One of the more recent interviews with Dr Greer



Dr Steven Greer Radio Interview 14 April 2008




Dr Steven Greer Radio Interview 14 April 2008 #2




Dr Steven Greer Radio Interview 14 April 2008 #3

and here is latest from Apollo Astronaut Edgar Mitchell on Larry King Live

hahaha bill nye

how many credible people need to come forward before people start really thinking about this? That video on the Disclosure Project has former military, civilian and CIA contractors all confirming seeing UFOs, by sight or by radar and then basically being told to shut up about it.

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Originally posted by Dj Smitty20 how many credible people need to come forward before people start really thinking about this? That video on the Disclosure Project has former military, civilian and CIA contractors all confirming seeing UFOs, by sight or by radar and then basically being told to shut up about it.

The problem with our society nowdays is that if one chooses to question something such as the UFO phenomena they are automatically lables as conspiracy theorists.What ever happend to the whole outside of the box thinking?

Why would all these men and woman come forward with all this information?As Smitty already mnetioned these are credible people who have had actual jobs in the government/military sectors.

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer The problem with our society nowdays is that if one chooses to question something such as the UFO phenomena they are automatically lables as conspiracy theorists.What ever happend to the whole outside of the box thinking? Why would all these men and woman come forward with all this information?As Smitty already mnetioned these are credible people who have had actual jobs in the government/military sectors.

and they are regular people too. Half of them are nervous as shit up there and are a mix of old, middle aged, men and women. And they are telling their accounts with conviction.

telling the truth under oath is one of the ways that things are accomplished and proven in our society, so why are these people not taken seriously? What possible motivation do they have?

Wow...and Jimmy Carter wanted full access to all US files on UFOs and was turned down by then CIA Director George Bush Senior. And didn't Clinton say to a White House reporter when she asked about aliens that "there was a government within the government that I can't control"? I remember that and it got a lot of airtime back in the late 90s. Even the own President might not even be privy to this information....hardly surprising.

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Originally posted by Dj Smitty20 telling the truth under oath is one of the ways that things are accomplished and proven in our society, so why are these people not taken seriously? What possible motivation do they have?

They are not being taken seriously because nobody is covering their stories and the newsnetworks have better things to cover like the war on terror etc.The people who are part of this whole coverup have done such an amazing job convincing the people that all this is fake and we are alone and your government has nothing to lie about.

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Wow...and Jimmy Carter wanted full access to all US files on UFOs and was turned down by then CIA Director George Bush Senior. And didn't Clinton say to a White House reporter when she asked about aliens that "there was a government within the government that I can't control"? I remember that and it got a lot of airtime back in the late 90s. Even the own President might not even be privy to this information....hardly surprising.

yup there were a few president who demanded access to those UFO files and they were basically told to shut the hell up and just be a president and dont ask questions like that.

I think one of the reason why we are not seeing any big disclosure by all these people who are willing to come forward and testify on extraterrestrilas and the technology that comes with them is because it would be too much to handle by most and I doubt the multi billion dollar corporations would want that to happen either,since many of these technologies would benifit for the environment and alot cheaper to produce and would be the end of our hunger for oil.

watch this video by Nassim Haramein from 2:11:10 till 2:29:20


Link: http://video.google.ca/videoplay?do...0haramein&hl=en


You can watch the whole 4 hours if you like(some heavy stuff to gasp) but the part I ask you to watch relates to our discussion here.

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer watch this video by Nassim Haramein from 2:11:10 till 2:29:20 Link: http://video.google.ca/videoplay?do...0haramein&hl=en You can watch the whole 4 hours if you like(some heavy stuff to gasp) but the part I ask you to watch relates to our discussion here.

I haven't seen or heard of that guy before. Interesting though, that we have been contacted already.

Actually that's a really intriguing analysis from him. I don't quite understand what he means though. It was sent in binary (1s and 0s) but where were these crop circles? Crop circles...I don't know. I kinda get a little skeptical about those.

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