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Posted by The17sss on Oct-24-2008 03:02:

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Originally posted by Eelke Kleijn
Yeah thanks a lot mate! Reactions like this just wanna make me go into the studio and write more music

Honest mistake man... please accept my apology. I was so pumped at how badass the song was, I wanted everyone to hear it. I know this is beside the point, but it was only downloaded 7 times, so no real damage done. If you want me to contribute the Beatport fee x 7 to a certain place, put the link in there and I'll do it. Keep up the great work man... you're one of my favorites

Posted by Clovis on Oct-24-2008 03:13:

The problem with distributing something online is that those 7 people are likely to now pass it on, and so on and so on till it basically doesn't matter. I don't think its a big deal if it was ripped from a set, but yeah, usually posting full versions of tracks, sample or not, is a bad idea.

Posted by Lebezniatnikov on Oct-24-2008 03:16:

And we wonder why artists aren't fond of TA...

Posted by Paradox Lost on Oct-24-2008 04:08:

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Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
And we wonder why artists aren't fond of TA...

heh, talk about some bad PR.

I'll bet the 17sss didn't see this coming.

Posted by The17sss on Oct-24-2008 15:33:

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Originally posted by Paradox Lost
heh, talk about some bad PR.

I'll bet the 17sss didn't see this coming.

No joke. total n00b move on my part. I feel like a dick now. Last thing I wanted to do was upset people.... sorry guys

Posted by Paradox Lost on Oct-25-2008 06:05:

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Originally posted by The17sss
No joke. total n00b move on my part. I feel like a dick now. Last thing I wanted to do was upset people.... sorry guys

Learning experience man.

Plus if Eelke Kleijn wanted to really hit you over the head with it, I'm sure he would have.

Posted by Clovis on Oct-25-2008 21:21:

I think this is released now? Just saw an ad for it on RA

Posted by elFreak on Oct-25-2008 21:24:

it is, and suprisingly enough i bought it. I actually like it, even though i'm not usually into his stuff.

Posted by Adam420 on Oct-25-2008 21:47:

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Originally posted by elFreak
it is, and suprisingly enough i bought it. I actually like it, even though i'm not usually into his stuff.

It's the vocals!!

Posted by enydo on Oct-25-2008 23:39:

Diggin this as well, nice little prog. housey tune.

Posted by Eelke Kleijn on Oct-27-2008 09:44:

Thanks for all the kind replies on this one

It's not that I am angry about tracks getting downloaded and distributed illegally over the internet, I think everyone knows that's just something that happens these days. It's still promotion on my part. But people sometimes just don't realise how much time you actually put into a release. An EP like Dopamine Theory probably takes me 5 or 6 whole days to produce each original track (so about 2 weeks in total), and another couple of days for the remix by Yvel & Tristan. Then you got the artwork, press release, distribution, advertising costs, etc etc. And you end up selling maybe 400 - 500 copies if you're lucky, which in terms of profit doesn't really compare to the amount of work you put into it. Especially if you come across some random download blog which manages to get more than 700 downloads in just a few days, it all starts to feel a bit pointless.

Now while some people say you shouldn't do it for the money, do it for the love of music, etc you just have to be realistic; Everybody needs a basic income to live. I am one of the lucky ones that actually play out enough to make this my full time job, partially due to the releases (gigs kind of make up for the money you 'lose' while releasing music). More than 90% of the other producers are probably not that lucky and just really need those sales to live off if they ever want to start doing it full time.

Anyway, just my 2 cents Don't take it as offence or anything but sometimes I just have to give my honest opinion on the whole matter as well.

Posted by dreambags on Oct-27-2008 15:33:

Eelke Kleijn himself?

wow..eelke..kudos to you and releasing your own EP..it must have taken alot of time and effort and by judging by your post i believe it did...

you said it took you 5 to 6 days for each track..that in itself is amazing...its taken me like months to even start a track..maybe I am using the wrong software...

any suggestions to help speed up my production..and if so...what progam would be best for the amateur producer such as myself...

hope to hear from ya...

Bags

Posted by kadomony on Oct-27-2008 18:03:

got & playing
great stuff as usual

Posted by Pokit on Oct-27-2008 20:09:

Thanks Eelke! I'm a big fan of your productions, I'm buying this asap!

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