How do you make a loop not sound like its looping? =]

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Posted by airwalker1 on Aug-07-2008 11:19:

Re: How do you make a loop not sound like its looping? =]

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Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox
Maybe a crazy question.
I play a lot with variations, quantizing, shuffles, delays and I can't figure out whether its because I KNOW its looping that it sounds like its looping or if anyone has any special tips to make a loop sound more like its driving and moving forward rather than going in circles?

I was watching a couple computer music vids where they offset the loop like 20ms ahead of the kick drum but it always friggn sounds like its going in circles.
Is this a head game because it always seems when I hear another persons track, and can't see how it was designed, that it seems less like its going in circles. I'm thinking about doing like 8 or even 16 bar percussion variations but that seems a little extreme.
"that`s where sidechaing helps,ie ad a siechain to your loop just enough to make it move onto the directin you want"

Posted by adi_hanson on Aug-07-2008 12:21:

kick - 4bar
hihat1 - 4bar , flank ghost notes either side,reverb,delay
hihat2 - 4bar , lower velocity on 2nd and 4th,reverb ,delay
hihat3 - 8 bar , same as above but vary the lay out ,reverb , delay
hihat4 - 4 bar , usually a shaker but i dont always use that
clap (aka the bitch)-4 bar , ghost , delay , reverb , compress

also i timesretch notes , but do all of the above in the sequencer , could use a plugin but i find the above fun and interesting to do

the term i think you use to unloop or undo a repetive sound is humanising sound , someone may need to confirm that!

hope that helps

Posted by Sonic_c on Aug-07-2008 12:25:

as mentioned in this thread before. Something i am enjoying no end !

GET GLITCH
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RUN GLITCH

Posted by adi_hanson on Aug-07-2008 12:32:

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Originally posted by Sonic_c
as mentioned in this thread before. Something i am enjoying no end !

GET GLITCH
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RUN GLITCH

just downloaded and trying out ,
it does some crazy shit lol

Posted by Sonic_c on Aug-07-2008 13:10:

yep now run it over a 16 bar loop. mix down run it over another 16 bar loop slightly diff setting or whatever you now have 32 bars of interesting loopy madness.

Posted by adi_hanson on Aug-07-2008 13:15:

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Originally posted by Sonic_c
yep now run it over a 16 bar loop. mix down run it over another 16 bar loop slightly diff setting or whatever you now have 32 bars of interesting loopy madness.

ive just run it over a 16 bar lead synth and automated the 2 timestretcher knobs and got a great build up noise , bit like a car engine speeding up , i think i might use it for effects aswell , gonna have a play now :-)

Posted by Bren-F on Aug-07-2008 18:04:

I find a good way of masking loop points is to take the sample into a wave editor and use a fade out/fade in on the beginning and end of the loop - it needs only be like a miliseconds worth of edit, barely noticible by ear, but gets rid of that annoying loop point 'click'
Then adding a small amount of reverb (with prominent tail) can mask the effect quite well.

This tends to work better on single sounds (pads/synths etc.) rather than drum samples and the like.

Posted by Subtle on Aug-07-2008 18:08:

Putting a gate on a loop can help too.

Posted by flutlicht junky on Aug-09-2008 13:19:

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Originally posted by Sonic_c
Slinky wooooo

roll on aly&fila, tyas and marcel woods!!!!!

Posted by itsamemario on Aug-11-2008 05:48:

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Originally posted by Sonic_c

So what is the big deal with people who maybe don�t know as much as you asking a question you do not have to answer on a forum designed to share production knowledge?

SO

Newbie questions Vs Experienced producers getting annoyed share your thoughts!!!!

All the newbie questions have been answered a million times before, and if the newcomers would take the time to read the sticky labeled "Please Read: Music Production FAQ", they would find that there is no need to create a new thread.

Posted by Sonic_c on Aug-11-2008 07:42:

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Originally posted by dj_alfi
All the newbie questions have been answered a million times before, and if the newcomers would take the time to read the sticky labeled "Please Read: Music Production FAQ", they would find that there is no need to create a new thread.

I get it now

Posted by Sonic_c on Aug-11-2008 07:42:

Posted by itsamemario on Aug-11-2008 07:49:

Yeah, now its Party Time!

Edit: Please note that I am not making fun of you because your track was bad, but because you were ashamed of making it :P

Posted by Sonic_c on Aug-11-2008 08:15:

quote:
Originally posted by dj_alfi
Yeah, now its Party Time!

Edit: Please note that I am not making fun of you because your track was bad, but because you were ashamed of making it :P

Lol ok, for the record I was ashamed of all the other productions i made under the name sticky electro because i didnt know what i was doin back then compared to the TA's. Party time was ok!

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