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it's really not that awesome, or am i missing that too?


this is awesome

we could complicate the question and ask what is the difference between either original and club mix and '12" mix'

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Originally posted by nefardec you're wrong. simple as that. they all have an original mix, and if you don't see it it's because it wasn't released or they named it badly. club mix != original mix. it's true that the club mix may be produced by the original producer, but that doesn't mean it's the original mixdown of the track.

That dosent sound right.

which part?

I should have just left it at club mix is generally not the same as original mix.

The all club mix must have original mix part..

Let's go nuts shall we?

Original Mix
Extended Mix
12" Mix
Instrumental Mix
Vocal Mix
Dub Mix

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Originally posted by Kinezi The all club mix must have original mix part..

Where does he say that exactly?

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Originally posted by varun Let's go nuts shall we? Original Mix Extended Mix 12" Mix Instrumental Mix Vocal Mix Dub Mix

What is Dub Mix (without vocals of original vocal track)? And I believe 12" Mix is extended longer version of the track (Well there is already one extended mix up there)?

Artists can shove any fucking tag at the end of their track, it doesn't necessarily mean a thing. Hardly a thing anyone should be wondering about either.

Ok, thanks. I've seen releases without the original mix and just a club mix, or vice versa (or with other stuff like original 12" mix) and was wondering if that was because they meant the same thing.

There is no adhered standard for naming tracks.

Most peopl e use original mix, but some will use club mix.

In nerfardec's example he portrays the situation when there is both an original and a club mix. It is suggested in the track name that the club mix is preferable to play ina club over the original.

Original 12" mix could imply that it was intended for vinyl or is the same as the vinyl press.

Other reasons why club mix would be used is if the producer releases an album or there is a radio mix and requires the distinction between them.

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery Artists can shove any fucking tag at the end of their track, it doesn't necessarily mean a thing. Hardly a thing anyone should be wondering about either.

Yep

what about artist name - track (original artist name mix)
what does that mean? lol, fuck it, it doesnt matter
or trance mix when the original is also trance?
one things for sure, never get radio edits.

Listen to stoneface & terminal - pictures (original) mix and the (club mix).

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Originally posted by Kinezi What is Dub Mix (without vocals of original vocal track)? And I believe 12" Mix is extended longer version of the track (Well there is already one extended mix up there)?

let's not even get into what 'dub' means LOL

What in the hell god's name does 'Radio Mix' means?

well generally mixes for the radio have to be shorter and sweeter - the catchiest parts alone, etc. this way radio deejays can cram many tracks into their rotation

Nice!!

It sounds fun naming these tracks BTW..

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Originally posted by Kinezi That dosent sound right.

It doesnt matter if you're right or not, its all about sounding confident

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Originally posted by Guest It doesnt matter if you're right or not, its all about sounding confident

nice demonstration


anyways you've learned one of life's mysteries

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Originally posted by Guest It doesnt matter if you're right or not, its all about sounding confident

LOL

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Originally posted by nefardec but this thread concerns where there is both an original mix and a club mix, and what I said holds true in that scenario no need to get so technical, the threadstarter just wants to know the basic difference, and I gave it to him.

Not necessarily. As the guy has pointed out, there are tracks with a Club Mix but no Original Mix. Sometimes the two are synonymous. Sometimes they're even simultaneous- witness Original Club Mix.

The point is that there is no defined nomenclature for naming tracks. As Mr Mystery rightly says, producers can (and do) put anything they like in brackets and it could mean anything they want it to.

It's not accurate to say that "Club Mix" always means the same thing and always has the same relation to "Original Mix". You should always point out the above- while there may be general trends, there is no universal meaning to any kind of mix and people shouldn't try and define them in essentialist ways.

i could shit on the grass and call it a club mix

i cant stand the pointless and endless relativism

no harm in simplifying things this unimportant imo



edit
in any case, a club mix, whether or not there is an instrumental, means it is written to be used by deejays, whereas an original mix, regardless of whether or not there is a club mix, is usually the first released version of a track*


*unless the producer was taught that mr. mystery and system j school of track nomenclature, in which case it can be absolutely anything

There's no harm in telling it how it is. Misleading people into thinking there is a universal definition for a mix title is why these threads keep coming up. You should be erasing the myth, not perpetuating it. There's no science in naming tracks.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J There's no harm in telling it how it is. Misleading people into thinking there is a universal definition for a mix title is why these threads keep coming up. You should be erasing the myth, not perpetuating it. There's no science in naming tracks.

no, the reason these threads keep coming up is because people don't use their brains


it takes five minutes to listen to two versions of a track and figure out why one is called the club mix and one is the original

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