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Felt it around my area too (Donmills and Finch).It felt like an earth quake.

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Originally posted by jennypie Hell yeah! *farts*

oh that's....ok let's see what else we have on the ticker.

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer Felt it around my area too (Donmills and Finch).It felt like an earth quake.

I'm York Mills/Donmills ish and I didn't feel anything

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Originally posted by �Zm�zis Yeah I saw this driving home... I didn't think much of it at the time, possibly cause I was too tired to care lol... but damn it sucks...

lol @ you being too tired to care, it would have meant war!

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Originally posted by Frenchie I'm York Mills/Donmills ish and I didn't feel anything

I was awake though.

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Originally posted by *~LiSa-LoO~* lol @ you being too tired to care, it would have meant war!

lol my brain was barely functioning at the time... thankfully roads were empty haha

If it was war then I would have just kept driving towards Nunavut and chill with the eskimos

This video describes it just about right...

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer I was awake though.

I'm in San Diego, someone forgot to sign out of my account.
My mom called me today to tell me about what happened. This whole week-end has been a cluster fuck.

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Originally posted by Frenchie I'm in San Diego

*jealousbus*

holy cow!
I used to live very close (Finch and Keele area)
wow, that was probably one scary scene

It even made the BBC News Frontpage. Source: Link. 4th from the top right now on the right-hand panel.

Full article. Source: Link.

I don't suppose anybody remembers the Levy's fire in Weston in the earl 90's...

Multiply this fire by about 10 (minus the explosions)...

Me and my friends helped evacuate ppl whose backyards backed onto the property...

Flames 300-400 feet in the air...

The explosion woke me up from bed and my neighbour said it knocked a picture frame off his wall above his bed!!!

I was chilling outside on my friend's patio then we heard something like loud. And we thought it was thunder. And this was in Mississauga.

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Originally posted by rabbitjoker my neighbour said it knocked a picture frame off his wall above his bed!!!

Ouch! That's a shitty way to wake up.

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Originally posted by VDub Me and my friends helped evacuate ppl whose backyards backed onto the property... Flames 300-400 feet in the air...

hows your tan?

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Originally posted by Coxx a firefighter died at the scene

weak R.I.P.

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Originally posted by DigiNut Clearly propane is far too dangerous to be handled in populated areas, and the Ontario government needs to ban it immediately. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to the BBQ.

needless to say, they are now working on it. NIMBYs are going nuts

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Originally posted by Jayx1 needless to say, they are now working on it. NIMBYs are going nuts

and if you were one of the tenants or homeowners impacted, you'd be first in line to hold Miller, McGuinty or whoever responsible and demand compensation or prosecution right?

or would you say "shit happens" and leave it at that?

I would want to know what exactly happened first before i started making nimbyish statements. Furthermore i probably wouldnt have moved next to an industrial site in the first place.

I feel bad for these people but at the same time, who do we blame? The business? Or the people who moved in next to it?

And yes i know that the propane place came about 4 years ago but the area was zoned decades ago (before housing was built) for industrial use including flammable gas which is why they were allowed to build there. I dont know about you, but when i move into an area i do a full investigation before i decide to move there.

Having said that, if the company is negligent they should pay for all damages.

I just hate to see all the blame laid on the business without any responsibility falling onto those who decided to live next to an industrial site. Most likely they moved there because the area was cheaper due to it being next to an industrial site.

BTW where is squinty mcguinty in all this? I havnt seen him say a thing on TV. I guess this is just another caledonia event for him

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Originally posted by Pett weak R.I.P.

they are still trying to figure out how this one firefighter passed away but they don't think it was the actual explosion or rescue efforts. They think it was just dealing with the stress or something.

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/...6407671-cp.html

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Originally posted by Jayx1 Furthermore i probably wouldnt have moved next to an industrial site in the first place.

the plant has been there for 4 years, some people lived there for 16 years
and I guess not everyone could afford to move

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Originally posted by FunkyCrew the plant has been there for 4 years, some people lived there for 16 years and I guess not everyone could afford to move

yes but it was zoned industrial for decades and before houses were put there. A quick check to city records would have seen that it was zoned for hazardous combustables as well. Also, I wouldnt live next to industrial plain and simple. Its just common sense.

People need to take responsibility for their own decisions. Im not saying that the company shouldnt pay for damages if they were negligent. Im just addressing the NIMBYs who suddenly are on the ban wagon. Obviously there are people willing to take a slight risk by buying cheaper next to industrial sites. Thats not the industry's fault is it?

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Originally posted by Jayx1 I would want to know what exactly happened first before i started making nimbyish statements. Furthermore i probably wouldnt have moved next to an industrial site in the first place. I feel bad for these people but at the same time, who do we blame? The business? Or the people who moved in next to it? And yes i know that the propane place came about 4 years ago but the area was zoned decades ago (before housing was built) for industrial use including flammable gas which is why they were allowed to build there. I dont know about you, but when i move into an area i do a full investigation before i decide to move there. Having said that, if the company is negligent they should pay for all damages. I just hate to see all the blame laid on the business without any responsibility falling onto those who decided to live next to an industrial site. Most likely they moved there because the area was cheaper due to it being next to an industrial site. BTW where is squinty mcguinty in all this? I havnt seen him say a thing on TV. I guess this is just another caledonia event for him

it's highly unrealistic to expect every tenant to check the zoning of their area and to investigate what businesses operate within city blocks of them. homebuyers *should* take a closer look though.

but at some point, you have to make a leap of faith and assume that if an area is zoned to permit residential dwellings that it is, at minimum, safe to live there.

I don't think it's unreasonable for the people impacted to be demanding answers and questioning whether such a facility shouldn't be required to operate in an area zoned 100% industrial.

i.e. it's not the company's fault that it was allowed to operate there...that may lie with zoning officials.

btw...lots of areas are zoned for mixed use and never actually see mixed use develop there. If you've lived there for 16 years, done your due dilligence and checked out what's around you, is everyone expected to chose to move when a propane plant goes in? highly unrealistic expectation.

in any case, I think it's highly unfair to pull out your typical NIMBY remarks here. This isn't a case of some jackass buying a condo in the entertainment district and complaining about more noise than usual. People not be expected to anticipate the possibility, and assume the risk, of what happened in this case.

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Originally posted by MarkT and if you were one of the tenants or homeowners impacted, you'd be first in line to hold Miller, McGuinty or whoever responsible and demand compensation or prosecution right?

Slight difference between expecting compensation (which would be reasonable if the explosion was due to any kind of negligence) and enacting a province-wide ban.

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Originally posted by DigiNut Slight difference between expecting compensation (which would be reasonable if the explosion was due to any kind of negligence) and enacting a province-wide ban.

well, NIMBY = not in my backyard...and it's kind of hard to justify the entire province as your 'backyard'. so anyone actually proposing THAT kind of ban isn't even a NIMBY, they're a freakin' idiot

but people calling for a ban from residential areas is rather understandable, given the circumstances.

immediate ban? no. figure out what happened and decide from there after consultation with experts on the matter? yes. understandble for someone woken up by huge explosions, shattered glass and being forced from their home for days to be calling for a ban from residential areas? I would say it's not "unreasonable" to expect to hear calls for that to be considered.

calling people "NIMBYs" is a bit heartless and unreasonable in this case. This isn't a "nuissance" issue, like clubland condo dwellers or Islanders complaining about noise...this resulted in loss of life, considerable damage, and could have been a *far* greater disaster than it already has proven to be.

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