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Posted by Alex on Aug-16-2008 06:08:

How many gun deaths are there related to responsible and licensed gun owners?

I'm just asking, not trying to be sarcastic or make a point, just want to know.


Posted by Sushipunk on Aug-16-2008 06:09:

quote:
Originally posted by inconspicuous
same thing.


Fosters is disgusting, not refreshing, and therefore NOT the same thing


Posted by shaw on Aug-16-2008 06:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Sushipunk
Fosters is disgusting, not refreshing, and therefore NOT the same thing


touch�


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Aug-16-2008 07:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Alex
How many gun deaths are there related to responsible and licensed gun owners?


if im not mistaken, columbine was executed by kids with their parents' licensed guns.

whether a person/firearm is licensed or not is largely irrelevant; what is important is the flood of weapons on the supply side of the situation.

it is simple fact that more guns in a society = more violence carried out by guns. there is a 'line of best fit' on a graph ffs.


Posted by BTG on Aug-16-2008 07:20:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
if im not mistaken, columbine was executed by kids with their parents' licensed guns.

whether a person/firearm is licensed or not is largely irrelevant; what is important is the flood of weapons on the supply side of the situation.

it is simple fact that more guns in a society = more violence carried out by guns. there is a 'line of best fit' on a graph ffs.


thank you.


Posted by blacknoizybox on Aug-16-2008 07:31:

and of coarse it's never America's fault

quote:
Originally posted by Ridexer
Way to solve gun problems: More guns.



Posted by Mr. Pink on Aug-16-2008 15:07:

quote:
Originally posted by diggerz
Just like the common people. I suggest you add a little bit more depth and insight to your future comments. To say that an entire country (which might aswell be divided into four or five equal parts - each sharing different traditions, laws and even different accents) is evil or misguided because of what happens in one state, I find it, well, unimpressive
No no, the entire country is fucked and shit.... just an fyi.


Posted by DJ Mikey Mike on Aug-16-2008 15:39:

Fuck it, just leave them to it. The more of these idiots that remove themselves from the gene pool the better.


Posted by winston on Aug-16-2008 15:54:

LOL gene pool

Yeah, things are fucked up. The economy is shit, there's a war going on, kids not in school, drugs, etc...

But, have you ever been south of the U.S border? A third world country ? If you have, you can't really tolerate the thought of people "panicking about the state of things", when in other countries, hope and excitement for the future have been lost in midst of poverty, awfull education systems, skewed governments and communist radicals.

You can't really say the US is in such a bad shape when there are alot of things developing in the nuclear, alternative energy, high-tech industries and various research projects focused on discovering cures for deadly illnesses that will change the world,

America is a machine, a locomotive, an F-1 that has spent way too much time at a pit-stop


Posted by Allied Nations on Aug-16-2008 16:18:

America is a great nation indeed. Just needs a slap in the face sometimes so it can realize how beautiful it is and stop abusing itself.


Posted by DJ Mikey Mike on Aug-16-2008 16:22:


Posted by CyclonesWorld on Aug-16-2008 17:36:

I think it's brilliant. Most students who want to shoot up their school get guns from other places. With the teachers packing heat, at least if the student opens fire the teachers can do something about it.


Posted by Fledz on Aug-17-2008 01:36:

quote:
Originally posted by CyclonesWorld
I think it's brilliant. Most students who want to shoot up their school get guns from other places. With the teachers packing heat, at least if the student opens fire the teachers can do something about it.

You don't get it do you? It's so easy to get guns because there is so many of them around. This just makes it even easier to get guns.

We have police for a reason you know. Why don't we just give everybody a gun, scrap the police and army, and just let people govern themselves like it's the dark ages

quote:
"Homicide rates tend to be related to firearm ownership levels. Everything else being equal, a reduction in the percentage of households owning firearms should occasion a drop in the homicide rate". Evidence to the Cullen Inquiry 1996: Thomas Gabor, Professor of Criminology - University of Ottawa


quote:
"The level of gun ownership world-wide is directly related to murder and suicide rates and specifically to the level of death by gunfire." International Correlation between gun ownership and rates of homicide and suicide.' Professor Martin Killias, May 1993.




Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Aug-17-2008 01:48:

Wanting a gun for self-defense is so barbaric. The only civilized thing to do when you encounter a violent armed criminal is to snivel and cry helplessly as you do what he says and hope the police arrive to take him away.

Everybody knows that!


Posted by Fledz on Aug-17-2008 04:11:

If there wasn't that many guns around, the chances of encountering an armed criminal would be far far less, or are you all too blind to see that?


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Aug-17-2008 04:21:

quote:
Originally posted by Fledz
If there wasn't that many guns around, the chances of encountering an armed criminal would be far far less...

True, but you can still encounter a mean guy with a nice big knife, or a gang of such guys, against which an unarmed person would still be pretty much helpless without some serious training, as people are finding out in Britain.

As said before, the only civilized thing to do is cower before anyone with a weapon who wants to harm you or take your stuff. Or in the case of nations where gangs wield knives, just run like a coward and let the police handle everything! Wanting to have the means to stand up to the murderous and thieving dregs of society is pure barbarism, and Americans are such Neanderthals for wanting that.


Posted by shaw on Aug-17-2008 04:21:

quote:
Originally posted by Fledz
If there wasn't that many guns around, the chances of encountering an armed criminal would be far far less, or are you all too blind to see that?


so you're saying that criminals are arming themselves to stay safe and that if regular citizens would stop buying shotguns, crooks wouldn't feel the need to pack heat.


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Aug-17-2008 04:23:

Anyone who even thinks of carrying a gun for self-defense is just trying to be a cowboy and probably has serious masculinity issues and a low IQ to boot, as all good Europeans know and typically inform Americans whenever this topic comes up.


Posted by SuspicionVandit on Aug-17-2008 04:38:

Will the threat of being shot encourage American students to actually know PRE-ALGEBRA?
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,294029,00.html


Posted by DJ Mikey Mike on Aug-17-2008 12:44:

If, Idiots + Guns = Disaster waiting to happen

and, Idiots = Americans

then, Americans + Guns = Disaster waiting to happen


Why Americans can't understand this is beyond belief. Oh wait, that's because Idiots = Americans.

It's mathematically sound. Fucking idiots.


Posted by Zild on Aug-17-2008 14:11:

We need to ban automobiles because that's what is really killing our youth.


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Aug-17-2008 14:43:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike
Why Americans can't understand this is beyond belief. Oh wait, that's because Idiots = Americans.

It's mathematically sound. Fucking idiots.

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
As said before, the only civilized thing to do is cower before anyone with a weapon who wants to harm you or take your stuff. Or in the case of nations where gangs wield knives, just run like a coward and let the police handle everything! Wanting to have the means to stand up to the murderous and thieving dregs of society is pure barbarism, and Americans are such Neanderthals for wanting that.


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Aug-17-2008 14:45:

quote:
Originally posted by Zild
We need to ban automobiles because that's what is really killing our youth.

That's a good point. Cars kill far more people in America than guns ever will. Remember, it doesn't matter that most people drive pretty safely and kill no one, just as it doesn't matter that the vast majority of people with guns use them safely and harm nobody. More cars = more automobile deaths just like more guns = more gun deaths, regardless of the intentions or actions of most of the people who buy them. Let's get on with banning cars!


Posted by jupiterone on Aug-17-2008 14:51:

we need to ban humanity, that's what we need to do


Posted by Zild on Aug-17-2008 14:55:

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
That's a good point. Cars kill far more than people in America than guns ever will. Remember, it doesn't matter that most people drive pretty safely and kill no one, just as it doesn't matter that the vast majority of people with guns use them safely and harm nobody. More cars = more automobile deaths just like more guns = more gun deaths, regardless of the intentions or actions of most of the people who buy them. Let's get on with banning cars!



Seriously people dont need to go all the way across town to see some shit electro house DJ when they could walk down to their corner bar and get fucked up with the local drunks. I mean aren't we in a civilized nation here? Ban automobiles!


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