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Originally posted by djhaziel ajammmm ... like you are going to read Nick Warren's name and really look foward to give it a chance . pfffff

Ok, now make sense.

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Originally posted by Ted Promo Ok, now make sense.

As an unmuddied lake, . As clear as an azure sky of deepest summer.

Nothing he's done since GU24 has been anything to write home about imo.

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Originally posted by woscar99 I think you said too much...you will be known as 'that guy who started the Eric Prydz - GU36: Stockholm' rumour.

maybe something else.

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Originally posted by Clovis Nothing he's done since GU24 has been anything to write home about imo.

Well that was a trance prog-house cd from 5 years ago , and guess what he still spins trance prog with some techno above 130 bpm , do you still listen to that?

What i'm saying is why would do a review on a tracklist of a dj that you don't like his style at all, is like me going into a tiesto thread and saying , " tiesto sucks " every single time I see somebody post something about him , don't see any point there.

I already know i don't like the music tiesto spins.... so why the bad vibe???

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Originally posted by djhaziel Well that was a trance prog-house cd from 5 years ago , and guess what he still spins trance prog with some techno above 130 bpm , do you still listen to that? What i'm saying is why would do a review on a tracklist of a dj that you don't like his style at all, is like me going into a tiesto thread and saying , " tiesto sucks " every single time I see somebody post something about him , don't see any point there. I already know i don't like the music tiesto spins.... so why the bad vibe???

Because even in the context of this music I don't find that tracklist interesting, there aren't any surprises. It's rather standard stuff. I don't review Tiesto CDs because I have 0 interest in anything he ever does, Warren however, I'm always willing to see what he's doing in the hope that he'll surprise me again, which he hasn't done.

In any case this is a music discussion forum, and I'm an opinionated sonofabitch, hence the post.

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Originally posted by Clovis Because even in the context of this music I don't find that tracklist interesting, there aren't any surprises. It's rather standard stuff. I don't review Tiesto CDs because I have 0 interest in anything he ever does, Warren however, I'm always willing to see what he's doing in the hope that he'll surprise me again, which he hasn't done. In any case this is a music discussion forum, and I'm an opinionated sonofabitch, hence the post.

1) thanks for answering my question

2) I know you don't listen to this sub genre of edm anymore so your opinion is not relevant at all.

3) To read the notes and figure out the music in your head like mozart you first have to know the notes. I'm sure that regarding the majority of these track you have no clue of who , what , where and how .

4) Come on do you really expect warren to go minimal deep house at this stage of his life , he did , he does and he will spin trance-prog house.

5) and yes it is a discussion forum , but to have a good discussion you have to back it up well.

You have no idea what I listen to, and no idea what artists I am or am not familiar with. I also have no expectation of Nick Warren pulling out a Luciano track list, but I would expect him to be searching for new and exciting music, not something that in my opinion looks like the past 800 compilations he's done. As I already said, he's become predictable and fails to surprise me. An interesting down tempo or breaks disc would be really cool.


Warren said in the liner notes to GU24 that it would probably be his last GU as he didn't know what else he could offer the series. Several comps later he's still playing pretty much the same stuff, which is fine, as obviously a lot of people like it, but I wish he might surprise me here and there.

Thats my opinion and if you have any other issues dealing with it, I don't think I can help you.

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Originally posted by Clovis You have no idea what I listen to, and no idea what artists I am or am not familiar with. I also have no expectation of Nick Warren pulling out a Luciano track list, but I would expect him to be searching for new and exciting music, not something that in my opinion looks like the past 800 compilations he's done. As I already said, he's become predictable and fails to surprise me. An interesting down tempo or breaks disc would be really cool. Warren said in the liner notes to GU24 that it would probably be his last GU as he didn't know what else he could offer the series. Several comps later he's still playing pretty much the same stuff, which is fine, as obviously a lot of people like it, but I wish he might surprise me here and there. Thats my opinion and if you have any other issues dealing with it, I don't think I can help you.

actually I do its called RA monthly charts.

it's his seal bro , like i said before he will always spin that sub-genere, i thought you had figure out that by now .

Opinions are fine , i just didn't like the vibe of your comment.

If you think that all I listen to is on my RA chart...fuck dude.

Thats my top 10!

Out of thousands of tracks that I hear. I browse almost every section of beatport when looking for music. I used to play Stan Kolev tracks a lot, Jarius Miller etc...the list goes on. Just because my main preference is a certain type of music doesn't mean I've shut the door on everything else. This morning I was listening to a DnB set on the way to work.

Warren had been spinning that for years but GU24 was still fresh and very much exciting in my eyes. I still listen to it to this day, which should prove that its not just because I'm mostly into minimal tech and house that I critique him...

still the monthly charts give you and idea what the dj is listening to currently.

I can tell you this i've gone into several forums that are into this subgenre and nobody has any clue of what the majority of tracks are like . I don't think just because you spend the whole day in front of the computer browsing through beatport will make you any special.

Well you're free to find my opinion as informed or uninformed as you like.

thanks i'll keep that in mind

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Originally posted by Clovis An interesting down tempo or breaks disc would be really cool.

The first disc to GU: Paris, as far as I'm concerned, fits this bill exceedingly well, and is largely constructed on lines similar to the first disc of GU: 24 (which you so highly praised).

In and of itself, the first disc is nothing short of very impressive, and I'm curious as to why you're apparently unwilling to cite this as an 'interesting downtempo or breaks disc.'

Looks great again from Warren, some real spicy tracks on there.

Clovis: Not to attack your tastes or your EDM knowledge but I think most people have been in your position of looking at a Warren CD 3 months before it came out and said... meh... same artists, different tracks... but I bet it's the same liveset I d/led 2 weeks ago. Although the chance of that could be likely in your case, I would still listen to it just because Warren is pretty damn good at finding a vibe with the cards he was dealt. I looked at the Paris CD the same way with 16B etc on the t/l without very high hopes but found the 2nd CD to be one of the most upbeat prog house sets in recent memory.

That's my 2 cents, hope you take it but feel free to leave it.

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Originally posted by Paradox Lost The first disc to GU: Paris, as far as I'm concerned, fits this bill exceedingly well, and is largely constructed on lines similar to the first disc of GU: 24 (which you so highly praised). In and of itself, the first disc is nothing short of very impressive, and I'm curious as to why you're apparently unwilling to cite this as an 'interesting downtempo or breaks disc.'

Paris is the only one I haven't listened to. (and Lima obviously)

I'll check it out.

Good fucking grief, gentlemen.

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Originally posted by SPANIARD Looks great again from Warren, some real spicy tracks on there. Clovis: Not to attack your tastes or your EDM knowledge but I think most people have been in your position of looking at a Warren CD 3 months before it came out and said... meh... same artists, different tracks... but I bet it's the same liveset I d/led 2 weeks ago. Although the chance of that could be likely in your case, I would still listen to it just because Warren is pretty damn good at finding a vibe with the cards he was dealt. I looked at the Paris CD the same way with 16B etc on the t/l without very high hopes but found the 2nd CD to be one of the most upbeat prog house sets in recent memory. That's my 2 cents, hope you take it but feel free to leave it.

Fair points, no offense taken at all.

Another part of my weariness with Warren is that the last 2 times I've seen him DJ, he's been absolutely TERRIBLE.

Horrible quick transitions, shit EQing and beatmatching, big room prog and a few classics thrown together aimlessly...just really bad.

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Originally posted by Clovis Fair points, no offense taken at all. Another part of my weariness with Warren is that the last 2 times I've seen him DJ, he's been absolutely TERRIBLE. Horrible quick transitions, shit EQing and beatmatching, big room prog and a few classics thrown together aimlessly...just really bad.

And this is different from how Nick Warren has always mixed how?



Honestly, if it's just not what you like - that's fine. Plenty of others have for a long, long time, and nothing has really changed other than your taste.

First few times I saw him he was a decent DJ.

Maybe you just didn't know any better?

Warren's live mixing has always been absolutely wretched - back to the first live sets I've ever heard from him from the late 90's early 00's.

I still think he manages to pick some great tunes (even to this day) - but unless it's a studio mix, I basically just expect the most off phrase, out of key, and generally some of the most terrible mixing I have ever heard.

I really don't know how he's managed to last as long as he has.

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Originally posted by RJT I really don't know how he's managed to last as long as he has.

Being such buddy-buddies with the GU team, would be my guess.

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Originally posted by RJT I really don't know how he's managed to last as long as he has.

He does have a knack for finding top notch tunes all the time even if his technique is shit.

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Originally posted by Clovis Paris is the only one I haven't listened to. (and Lima obviously) I'll check it out.

You're missing out, as disc one is downtempo... something you seemed to want to hear from him going by a previous post in this thread, and it's one of those CDs that gets better with each listen .

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Originally posted by RJT Warren's live mixing has always been absolutely wretched - back to the first live sets I've ever heard from him from the late 90's early 00's.

Warren's never been known for his spot-on mixing, no?
As far as I know his has always been about track selection and comps specifically.

The several times I've seen 'em he's had flashes of brilliance programming - like 4-5 trax.
Then he kinda lulls for 2 or 3...

This is kinda the sequence i've noticed from him (more or less) for a decade now...

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