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Posted by Dj Smitty20 on Aug-29-2008 21:56:

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
lol


serious question. Did you?

first year politics courses generally define things such as liberalism, conservatism, NEO convervatism, etc.


Posted by Abercrombie on Aug-29-2008 23:47:






Posted by Irishaddict on Aug-30-2008 00:00:

As much as I would like to sell myself on the idea of change in America, the woman VP nomination was a wise, wiiiiiiiise move.


Posted by Abercrombie on Aug-30-2008 00:06:

quote:
Originally posted by Irishaddict
As much as I would like to sell myself on the idea of change in America, the woman VP nomination was a wise, wiiiiiiiise move.


Agreed. Along with the female votes, men will vote with their penis.


Posted by Irishaddict on Aug-30-2008 00:08:

Ya but she is used goods. 5 kids!!

edit: she also looks a hell of a lot like Tina Fey.


Posted by devnull on Aug-30-2008 00:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Irishaddict
Ya but she is used goods. 5 kids!!

edit: she also looks a hell of a lot like Tina Fey.


5 kids is alot...but she runs 7-10 miles a day....so she doesnt look like she had 5! lol


Posted by Abercrombie on Aug-30-2008 00:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Irishaddict
she also looks a hell of a lot like Tina Fey.


OOPS! I did post Tina Fey up there, didn't I... oops (stealth edit)


Posted by Irishaddict on Aug-30-2008 00:24:

ya. honestly. is that pic of her actually tina fey? because i can see looking alike, but having the same scar?

ok yes that is tina fey, HELLO WELCOME TO FRIDAY LAURA.


Posted by Yohan on Aug-30-2008 00:28:

And to think even last year, many thought a Dem win was a pretty much sure thing, after Bush's antics

Who can understand Yank politics?


Posted by rabbitjoker on Aug-30-2008 00:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Irishaddict
HELLO WELCOME TO FRIDAY LAURA.


Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!


Posted by Jer on Aug-30-2008 00:42:

My political opinions have got me in to trouble before and they likely will many times in the future, so I guess this won't make much of a difference.

I've long been a supporter of McCain's, stemming back to his candidacy in 2000. With a few family members as a part of that inner Republican circle, I really appreciated his performance as a politician.. Pre-2000 that is.

I have great respect for John McCain as a senator, but very little now for John McCain as a candidate. The sad truth is that his years are getting to him, and believe me when I say this - He is NOT as sharp as he was a decade ago. He's witty, clever and an overall charming man - But to give power to him in the twilight of his life when his former judgement and temperment aren't there is nothing short of reckless, even dangerous.

His 'choice' to select Palin was not his at all, it was that of his handlers. Do not believe the media - This nomination was one that has left one half of the rank and file Republicans scratching their heads in disbelief and the remaining half laughing under their breath. This is a political stunt of cinematic proportions in an effort to lure the Democratic "Pumas" that hadn't already been galvanized into unity @ the DNC in Denver. With any luck, the informed american public will see this for what it truly is. A stunt.

I'll be crystal clear here - I have no bias against Palin, none whatsoever. My biggest concern is that in about ten weeks' time, the american public won't be holding a general election so much as they'll be conducting a referendum on whether Barack Obama is fit to lead. The GOP has yet to provide the greater american public an honest, valid reason to elect their nominees - Only reasons why they shouldn't elect the Democratic one. The disturbing truth is that some women just want to see a woman as president; Some men just want to see a woman as president. There's just as many that just want a black man as leader. And that, ladies and gentlemen - Is wrong.

Barack Obama is a Candidate.
Hillary Clinton was a Candidate.
Sarah Palin is a Candidate.
John McCain is a Candidate.
Joe Biden is a Candidate.

If the american public simply remembered these simple facts as opposed to associating skin color or gender to them, the polls would be in overwhelming favor of the Democrats. Both sides are guilty of this gongshow now, but McCain's campaign just made an absolute joke of this election that has too much hinging on it. Too much at stake for America, too much at stake for us as neighbors and allies, and far too much at stake for the world.

The American public needs to elect a capable and strong executive branch. If that so happens to include a minority or a woman, so be it.

Putting McCain in office in these times of crisis is dangerous, opening the door to Palin taking office in these times of crisis is certain suicide.

Sadly though, misguided feminism and racial divides will be the deciding factors in this election. Not the candidate's calibre.

And the overwhelming majority of the United States of America is neither educated or aware enough to realise it.


Posted by Yohan on Aug-30-2008 00:48:

Jer, dude... Never knew you were into politics. Most interesting POV


Posted by DaRoZa on Aug-30-2008 00:59:

quote:
Originally posted by KaiLee
Neither candidates are a good choice to be president when it really comes down to it....


Posted by Jer on Aug-30-2008 01:08:

quote:
Originally posted by Yohan
Jer, dude... Never knew you were into politics. Most interesting POV


One thing I didn't even mention was the absolute shitshow that started around 6:30 this morning when the McCain campaign started playing games with the news media by purposely misleading and leaking false information just to undercut next-day coverage on the final night of the DNC.. Especially funny if anyone was watching MSNBC - They were answering phone calls from sources on air, going back and forth on their BlackBerries, it was nothing short of hilarious - At some points, Mikka Brzensky (the co-host) was actually getting aggravated, made for some funny live TV.

PS Wow, she *is* really attractive, isn't she?


Posted by Yohan on Aug-30-2008 01:12:

quote:
Originally posted by Jer
PS Wow, she *is* really attractive, isn't she?

Another Ann Coulter? lol


Posted by Jer on Aug-30-2008 01:14:

quote:
Originally posted by Yohan
Another Ann Coulter? lol


LOL

Ann Coulter would look gorgeous



















































































with a bullet between her eyes


Posted by Yohan on Aug-30-2008 01:17:

quote:
Originally posted by Jer
LOL

Ann Coulter would look gorgeous

with a bullet between her eyes

She's one of those people I'd want to slam her head against a table repeatly


Posted by Jer on Aug-30-2008 01:25:

quote:
Originally posted by Yohan
She's one of those people I'd want to slam her head against a table repeatly


Add Bill O'Reilly, Nancy Grace, Rush Limbaugh & Sean Hannity to that list for me.

And replace "against a table" with "with a large hammer".

stealth edit, lol


Posted by Abercrombie on Aug-30-2008 01:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Yohan
Another Ann Coulter? lol



Posted by DaRoZa on Aug-30-2008 03:58:

apparently mccain has only met her in person twice, but said "anybody that hunts moose at 3 in the morning is high on my list"...

sadly i think in 1 year's time there will be a long list of such amazing judgment calls... i'm sure the writers for the daily show/colbert report are relieved the scripts will practically write themselves until at least 2012 if mccain gets elected


Posted by KaiLee on Aug-30-2008 04:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Cosmic Fur

The problem is that "informed Americans" is a small minority, lol.


Truer words cannot be spoken. I spent grades 5-12 going to a school in North Carolina and we were not taught about the world around us.....

Thank god for worldly parents!


If enough people wrote Hillary Clinton's name on the ballot they technically have to count it.....despite her not being the official candidate. Same goes for a Republican candidate that is better than McCain.

Then again with these delegates and electoral college the people never actually get to elect anyways.


Posted by 7-4-7 on Aug-30-2008 04:42:

Anyone who suggests that this is a good move is as misguided as research rat. This move is as chess-like by its overt action. When this candidate comes to blows and begins to unveil her positions it will be clear that every single republican effort to define her as a representative of conservative values will by each layering of those policies and values desexualize her day to day, until, like Hillary she becomes this quasi women who seeks to ultra masculinize her public face. Which did not work on the democrat side for Hillary.

From where I sit it seems like this is Mccains trump card; and it was the last one. The tired and lax approach to the mediocre, mundane and status quo mentality that Mccain has, only now makes me wonder if their camp has thrown in the towel.

Even Rush Limbaugh can see this for what it is; and he has made a public statement to voice his embarrassment with this.

Stately Figures.

If we all agree that both presidential candidates bring their pros and cons; then a discussion comes down to a series of questions of the VP's

Who do I want running the country should the president fall ill or worse?
who will bring the proven substantial foundation to tough decisions?
who has the most amount of relevant experience?
and frankly who will win the debates?

the decidedly unbalanced favor is logically in Bidens court. Palin will pale in comparison to Biden's stately demeanor, his confidence and far more importantly - his experience.

I am a hockey mom.

Hockey moms and Cub Scout fathers dont run for the highest office, they run from the highest office. And by poorly defining herself as something other than what she really is; a card carrying conservative of the Pat Buchanan vein she will only attract dissolusioned conservativish female (only) voters who sought that little nudge to vote in a comfortable fashion for the old fashion. And that is fine, and will always be the case - unless of course these same women are mothers whose children are fighting in an illegal war; one which the republicans wish to perpetuate.

Change.

Obama does indeed preach an awful lot about the concept of a fresh start, a new face of politics and the possiblity of a resurgence in all things american. But whether it is going to work well or not, it is still exactly what all of america wants. Even if you are republican you know that you want a safe enough distance from bush as possible, without stretching too far the comfortable mold.

Mccain is that.
Palin is not.
Obama is not.
Biden is.

So we are in a dead heat. However the supremacy of Obamas public image, his lock on the largest percentage of the legal voting pool and the concentrated package that is, Binden gives Obama the nod.

Mccains first decision in an office he doesnt have yet is a bad choice. America doesnt vote for the VP the Presidential candidate does and he missed the mark.

Obama made the smart move. One of many to come.


Posted by hardcore trancer on Aug-30-2008 05:20:

quote:
Originally posted by rabbitjoker
No.



lol wow you actually want those Republican fucktards to win???


Posted by Dj Smitty20 on Aug-30-2008 05:22:

quote:
Originally posted by hardcore trancer
lol wow you actually want those Republican fucktards to win???


sure he does. He, like the rest of the right wingers, believe the last eight years have been times of unprecedented growth and prosperity and the advancement of world peace and security!

!


Posted by hardcore trancer on Aug-30-2008 05:33:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj Smitty20
Frankly dude you talk as if you actually know what is going to happen (and it makes you look like a know it all, which people usually despise). Why does Biden kill Obama's chances? He will destroy that novice Palin in the VP debates, as Obama will wipe the floor with McCain.


McCain is 72 fucking years old and he has a history of medical problems. He confuses Chechyna with Czechoslovakia, can't remember how many houses he owns and honestly believes that the middle class can be defined as anyone who makes under 5 million dollars.

I'm sorry but I believe that most informed Americans are fed up with this recent stint of neo conservatism, just as Stephen Harper will likely feel some big time heat in the next election, especially in Ontario.


Right on Smitty!!

We both know however that there is alot of brainless people down there who will blindly vote for the Republicans regardless. If those so called ex hillary women voters actually do go ahead and vote for Mccain because of that fact that his VP is a woman,this election would turn for a disaster yet again.

I dont understand these people in the US,they claim that they are sick of the Bush bullshit and here we are having Democrats and Republicans head to head.Where the fuck are they getting the support?how can they even conisder another Republican president?

America is one fuckedup country serioulsy...


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