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As much as I would like to sell myself on the idea of change in America, the woman VP nomination was a wise, wiiiiiiiise move.
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| Originally posted by Irishaddict As much as I would like to sell myself on the idea of change in America, the woman VP nomination was a wise, wiiiiiiiise move. |
Ya but she is used goods. 5 kids!!
edit: she also looks a hell of a lot like Tina Fey.
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| Originally posted by Irishaddict Ya but she is used goods. 5 kids!! edit: she also looks a hell of a lot like Tina Fey. |
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| Originally posted by Irishaddict she also looks a hell of a lot like Tina Fey. |
ya. honestly. is that pic of her actually tina fey? because i can see looking alike, but having the same scar?
ok yes that is tina fey, HELLO WELCOME TO FRIDAY LAURA.
And to think even last year, many thought a Dem win was a pretty much sure thing, after Bush's antics
Who can understand Yank politics? 
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| Originally posted by Irishaddict HELLO WELCOME TO FRIDAY LAURA. |
My political opinions have got me in to trouble before and they likely will many times in the future, so I guess this won't make much of a difference.
I've long been a supporter of McCain's, stemming back to his candidacy in 2000. With a few family members as a part of that inner Republican circle, I really appreciated his performance as a politician.. Pre-2000 that is.
I have great respect for John McCain as a senator, but very little now for John McCain as a candidate. The sad truth is that his years are getting to him, and believe me when I say this - He is NOT as sharp as he was a decade ago. He's witty, clever and an overall charming man - But to give power to him in the twilight of his life when his former judgement and temperment aren't there is nothing short of reckless, even dangerous.
His 'choice' to select Palin was not his at all, it was that of his handlers. Do not believe the media - This nomination was one that has left one half of the rank and file Republicans scratching their heads in disbelief and the remaining half laughing under their breath. This is a political stunt of cinematic proportions in an effort to lure the Democratic "Pumas" that hadn't already been galvanized into unity @ the DNC in Denver. With any luck, the informed american public will see this for what it truly is. A stunt.
I'll be crystal clear here - I have no bias against Palin, none whatsoever. My biggest concern is that in about ten weeks' time, the american public won't be holding a general election so much as they'll be conducting a referendum on whether Barack Obama is fit to lead. The GOP has yet to provide the greater american public an honest, valid reason to elect their nominees - Only reasons why they shouldn't elect the Democratic one. The disturbing truth is that some women just want to see a woman as president; Some men just want to see a woman as president. There's just as many that just want a black man as leader. And that, ladies and gentlemen - Is wrong.
Barack Obama is a Candidate.
Hillary Clinton was a Candidate.
Sarah Palin is a Candidate.
John McCain is a Candidate.
Joe Biden is a Candidate.
If the american public simply remembered these simple facts as opposed to associating skin color or gender to them, the polls would be in overwhelming favor of the Democrats. Both sides are guilty of this gongshow now, but McCain's campaign just made an absolute joke of this election that has too much hinging on it. Too much at stake for America, too much at stake for us as neighbors and allies, and far too much at stake for the world.
The American public needs to elect a capable and strong executive branch. If that so happens to include a minority or a woman, so be it.
Putting McCain in office in these times of crisis is dangerous, opening the door to Palin taking office in these times of crisis is certain suicide.
Sadly though, misguided feminism and racial divides will be the deciding factors in this election. Not the candidate's calibre.
And the overwhelming majority of the United States of America is neither educated or aware enough to realise it.
Jer, dude... Never knew you were into politics. Most interesting POV
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| Originally posted by KaiLee Neither candidates are a good choice to be president when it really comes down to it.... |
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| Originally posted by Yohan Jer, dude... Never knew you were into politics. Most interesting POV |
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| Originally posted by Jer PS Wow, she *is* really attractive, isn't she? |
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| Originally posted by Yohan Another Ann Coulter? lol |
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| Originally posted by Jer LOL Ann Coulter would look gorgeous with a bullet between her eyes |
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| Originally posted by Yohan She's one of those people I'd want to slam her head against a table repeatly |
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| Originally posted by Yohan Another Ann Coulter? lol |
apparently mccain has only met her in person twice, but said "anybody that hunts moose at 3 in the morning is high on my list"...
sadly i think in 1 year's time there will be a long list of such amazing judgment calls... i'm sure the writers for the daily show/colbert report are relieved the scripts will practically write themselves until at least 2012 if mccain gets elected
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| Originally posted by Cosmic Fur The problem is that "informed Americans" is a small minority, lol. |
Anyone who suggests that this is a good move is as misguided as research rat. This move is as chess-like by its overt action. When this candidate comes to blows and begins to unveil her positions it will be clear that every single republican effort to define her as a representative of conservative values will by each layering of those policies and values desexualize her day to day, until, like Hillary she becomes this quasi women who seeks to ultra masculinize her public face. Which did not work on the democrat side for Hillary.
From where I sit it seems like this is Mccains trump card; and it was the last one. The tired and lax approach to the mediocre, mundane and status quo mentality that Mccain has, only now makes me wonder if their camp has thrown in the towel.
Even Rush Limbaugh can see this for what it is; and he has made a public statement to voice his embarrassment with this.
Stately Figures.
If we all agree that both presidential candidates bring their pros and cons; then a discussion comes down to a series of questions of the VP's
Who do I want running the country should the president fall ill or worse?
who will bring the proven substantial foundation to tough decisions?
who has the most amount of relevant experience?
and frankly who will win the debates?
the decidedly unbalanced favor is logically in Bidens court. Palin will pale in comparison to Biden's stately demeanor, his confidence and far more importantly - his experience.
I am a hockey mom.
Hockey moms and Cub Scout fathers dont run for the highest office, they run from the highest office. And by poorly defining herself as something other than what she really is; a card carrying conservative of the Pat Buchanan vein she will only attract dissolusioned conservativish female (only) voters who sought that little nudge to vote in a comfortable fashion for the old fashion. And that is fine, and will always be the case - unless of course these same women are mothers whose children are fighting in an illegal war; one which the republicans wish to perpetuate.
Change.
Obama does indeed preach an awful lot about the concept of a fresh start, a new face of politics and the possiblity of a resurgence in all things american. But whether it is going to work well or not, it is still exactly what all of america wants. Even if you are republican you know that you want a safe enough distance from bush as possible, without stretching too far the comfortable mold.
Mccain is that.
Palin is not.
Obama is not.
Biden is.
So we are in a dead heat. However the supremacy of Obamas public image, his lock on the largest percentage of the legal voting pool and the concentrated package that is, Binden gives Obama the nod.
Mccains first decision in an office he doesnt have yet is a bad choice. America doesnt vote for the VP the Presidential candidate does and he missed the mark.
Obama made the smart move. One of many to come.
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| Originally posted by hardcore trancer lol wow you actually want those Republican fucktards to win??? |
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| Originally posted by Dj Smitty20 Frankly dude you talk as if you actually know what is going to happen (and it makes you look like a know it all, which people usually despise). Why does Biden kill Obama's chances? He will destroy that novice Palin in the VP debates, as Obama will wipe the floor with McCain. McCain is 72 fucking years old and he has a history of medical problems. He confuses Chechyna with Czechoslovakia, can't remember how many houses he owns and honestly believes that the middle class can be defined as anyone who makes under 5 million dollars. I'm sorry but I believe that most informed Americans are fed up with this recent stint of neo conservatism, just as Stephen Harper will likely feel some big time heat in the next election, especially in Ontario. |
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