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Posted by amit on Sep-04-2008 04:49:

well u know what u should do is teach the kid how to scratch! how djs sample records... if he's really into edm then teach him the different genre's

give him old paul oakenfold mixes! or tranceport

ask him which style of music he likes play couple of records...of course hes young so he will like trance music. show him couple of good trance artist like pvd, or armin. but tell him to stay away from the cheesy stuff.

i remember when i was like 13 and when i started to get into edm like and i bought tranceport.

well i would teach him basic scratch mixing...like something cool that he could practice. show some youtube video's.

teaching him how to beatmatch man...thats kinda hard i dont know how your going to do that. but if he gets his own set up tell him not to teach and look at the bpm counter to help...

getting him into chicago house or detroit house is kinda like pushing it to the extremes. he has to choose a genre that works for him.

i think this is an awesome. hes young and motivated and it will def get his mind off of things. good luck!!!


Posted by Domesticated on Sep-04-2008 04:59:

quote:
Originally posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY
Lol...are u serious? Maybe u should get him involved in another hobby, like rock climbing, or something related to where u live. At 13, I would not be pushing a young boy into the DJ world. With his background, he needs a more positive environment.


Frickin' IDIOT.

Huuuuuuuuuuuuuuh.



Posted by Tony Morello on Sep-04-2008 06:00:

i think a good place to start would be to listen to music with him and do the clapping thing where you teach him to count the beats and recognize the measures and the rule of 8, regardless of musical background or not, it's always a good place to start, plus feeding him easy records and giving him a shot at trying it out while you guys play back and forth, 2 for 2 for example


Posted by david.michael on Sep-04-2008 12:32:

quote:
Originally posted by amit
well u know what u should do is teach the kid how to scratch! how djs sample records... if he's really into edm then teach him the different genre's

give him old paul oakenfold mixes! or tranceport

ask him which style of music he likes play couple of records...of course hes young so he will like trance music. show him couple of good trance artist like pvd, or armin. but tell him to stay away from the cheesy stuff.

i remember when i was like 13 and when i started to get into edm like and i bought tranceport.

well i would teach him basic scratch mixing...like something cool that he could practice. show some youtube video's.

teaching him how to beatmatch man...thats kinda hard i dont know how your going to do that. but if he gets his own set up tell him not to teach and look at the bpm counter to help...

getting him into chicago house or detroit house is kinda like pushing it to the extremes. he has to choose a genre that works for him.

i think this is an awesome. hes young and motivated and it will def get his mind off of things. good luck!!!



1.) Good scratching/turntablism is way more difficult than beatmatching.

2.) Why would he try to influence his musical taste? Let the kid like what he likes. He's trying to teach him about DJing, not teach him what music to like...he already likes music. It's not a matter of "getting him to like EDM".


Posted by nchs09 on Sep-04-2008 18:14:

Re: Teaching the kids.

quote:
Originally posted by RJT
c0r Summary: If you were going to try and give an 8th grader a solid education in the fundamentals of DJ'ing, how would you do it?

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So I'm taking on a bit of a project right now - the cliffs notes version of it is that a very close friend of our family is going through a messy divorce, and the only child caught in the middle of it (a best friend of my youngest sister) really just needs some distractions, so we're trying to provide them.

He's 13, and very, very interested in DJ'ing and electronic music. He's got a good head on his shoulders as far as being a kid who already knows the difference between Chicago House and Detroit Techno, and really has taken an interest in learning to DJ. He also has what I think is impeccable taste for a young guy - all the more reason to try to get him started.

Normally, I'm not a huge fan of trying to teach like this - it's just difficult for me to convey what to do in terms simple enough for others to learn, but because this kid really does seem enthralled with EDM and DJ'ing, and because I'd like to do my part to help him stay positive through all this, I really want to try and do what I can to show him the ropes.

So basically I need some advice from you all - how would you go about teaching a 13 year old the basics? Obviously beatmatching is one of the first steps - but I really don't know what the best way to approach this all will be, and I figure if I at least got you all talking about it with me, we might be able to sort some decent ideas out.

Cheers.
divorce and gettign into edm? sounds like a pathway to drugs.


and for the beatmatching.... just turn the volume on both t4racks up.. that way she can hear what you are doing.


Posted by elFreak on Sep-04-2008 19:00:

teach him to match highs without the bass. IMO i find you learn accuracy better this way.


Posted by nefardec on Sep-04-2008 20:09:

teach him to snort pixie sticks off the record


Posted by nchs09 on Sep-04-2008 20:35:

And tell him to only use his super powers of djing for spinning big clob only.


Posted by dimadelux on Sep-04-2008 20:49:

quote:
Originally posted by nefardec
teach him to snort pixie sticks off the record


+1

kid has to learn it someday...


Posted by Clovis on Sep-04-2008 23:28:

quote:
Originally posted by nefardec
teach him to snort pixie sticks off the record


Indeed, practice lines with the candy so you don't fuck up and waste real drugs.


Posted by Ted Promo on Sep-05-2008 00:09:

rape is a distraction.


Posted by Ted Promo on Sep-05-2008 00:12:

quote:
Originally posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY
Not really entertained, or trying to be an ass. if u see it that way well that's your issue. I would not steer any young kids in my family into this world. You should know better, but maybe not. Don't be so defensive either, it's my opinion on an open board.


Yeah man, it's a tough, tough world we've all gotten ourselves into here. Posting on almost ALL BLACK forums and going to college and stuff. I mean -- SHIT. Crazy. Wacky even.

I smell drug addiction alllllll over this one RJTeacher.


Posted by RJT on Sep-05-2008 00:28:

For the record, Traktor works wonders as far as conveying phrasing and beatmatching visually in ways I couldn't manage to say at all eloquently.


Posted by enydo on Sep-05-2008 01:04:

This is a really cool idea, good luck!


Posted by cmay119 on Sep-05-2008 01:10:

Very cool idea. Please keep us posted on this. I'd like to know how he is fairing in the next couple months (if you decide to do this soon, that is).


Posted by Fl@k Monkey on Sep-05-2008 02:05:

1) Holy shit this thread got jacked big time
2) Should make the little fellow your prodigy and then do b2b mixing with him


Posted by Sukhoi29SU on Sep-05-2008 02:17:

quote:
Originally posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY
This has failure and drug addiction all over it, for starters. Don't believe me, I don't really care and don't need your shit =)


Just made it around to this thread and I must say that the above quote was the most random, surprising, and... completely ridiculous thing I've read all week.

I don't understand how getting a kid involved with a great hobby while his parents are going through a divorce has anything to do with failure and drug addiction. And prior to that quote, I don't think RJT was giving you any 'shit' whatsoever. You became ultra defensive and, well...

Basically, you're an idiot.


Posted by Max Thomson on Sep-05-2008 04:04:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
Indeed, practice lines with the candy so you don't fuck up and waste real drugs.


wise words


Posted by Teezdalien on Sep-05-2008 12:07:

quote:
Originally posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY
Not really entertained, or trying to be an ass. if u see it that way well that's your issue. I would not steer any young kids in my family into this world. You should know better, but maybe not. Don't be so defensive either, it's my opinion on an open board.


Get a brain!!


Posted by sean5 on Sep-05-2008 19:15:

get him a setup and some tracks. teach him some beatmatching, explain some song structure, start with some basic transitions, and then expose him to pro djs. extensive eq work, filters, effects, etc., should probably be learned later on. with all the resources available online, it should be easy breezy.


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