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Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Sep-04-2008 18:00:

quote:
Originally posted by spanglo
It was not cheating because you and friend A were not exclusive, and friend A had a great reason to keep it quiet which you agreed. Friend B comes around sometime later and asks if u and friend A slept together. What is your answer?

I wouldn't say either way.

Which would probably be interpreted as "yes," of course -- but I still would not have broken the promise, since I never promised to lie about it.


Posted by Zild on Sep-04-2008 18:02:

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
I wouldn't say either way.

Which would probably be interpreted as "yes," of course -- but I still would not have broken the promise, since I never promised to lie about it.


If you refuse to answer and that is interpreted as a yes then you did break the promise. You should have said no.


Posted by spanglo on Sep-04-2008 18:02:

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
I wouldn't say either way.

Which would probably be interpreted as "yes," of course -- but I still would not have broken the promise, since I never promised to lie about it.


You fail


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Sep-04-2008 18:04:

quote:
Originally posted by Zild
If you refuse to answer and that is interpreted as a yes then you did break the promise.

But I didn't, since I never told B whether A and I slept together.


Posted by spanglo on Sep-04-2008 18:05:

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
But I didn't, since I never told B whether A and I slept together.


It was a yes or no question. You fail.


Posted by UmmiE on Sep-04-2008 18:05:

I am fasting right now and I have to go through it for 30 days and then Im free LOL.


Posted by Zild on Sep-04-2008 18:05:

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
But I didn't, since I never told B whether A and I slept together.


I guess that works if you're a lawyer. But for normal applications you've failed to keep the promise. Keeping promises includes lying if you know that silence will be interpreted in a certain way.


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Sep-04-2008 18:06:

quote:
Originally posted by spanglo
It was a yes or no question. You fail.

Have you stopped buttfucking homeless men?

You can only answer "yes" or "no."


Posted by Silky Johnson on Sep-04-2008 18:07:

Of course you lie to friend B to keep the secret. The correct answer is "That's not my information to tell, you'll have to ask friend A yourself."

I fucking hate when people put me in that position, which is why I tell my friends never to ask me to lie for them, or get me involved in their drama.


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Sep-04-2008 18:08:

quote:
Originally posted by jennypie
I fucking hate when people put me in that position, which is why I tell my friends never to ask me to lie for them, or get me involved in their drama.


Posted by spanglo on Sep-04-2008 18:09:

quote:
Originally posted by Zild
I guess that works if you're a lawyer. But for normal applications you've failed to keep the promise. Keeping promises includes lying if you know that silence will be interpreted in a certain way.


Correct, but then you lied.

The moral dilemma I presented MrJiveBoJingles was simple... lie or break a promise. There was no third alternative although he tried hard to find one. That's why he failed. I was just curious which way he would go.


Posted by Zild on Sep-04-2008 18:09:

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles


Yep that's why you don't make the promise in the first place because if you do then you have to lie.


Posted by Lira on Sep-04-2008 18:14:

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Have you stopped buttfucking homeless men?

You can only answer "yes" or "no."

Oi, what happened to "mu"?


Posted by jonas on Sep-04-2008 18:47:

I never face them. I turn and run


Posted by SuspicionVandit on Sep-04-2008 19:02:

Don't mis-shift
Don't disrespect PVD
Don't look at watch when with gf
Don't laugh when teacher says boson
Don't throw calculators that don't belong to me

Do boast about your supernatural abilities
Do criticize others harshly about their inability to do common tasks
Do live a quarter mile at a time

-The SV Code


Posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY on Sep-04-2008 19:07:

what does this word morals mean? Is this due to religion?


Posted by spanglo on Sep-04-2008 19:21:

quote:
Originally posted by SuspicionVandit
Don't mis-shift
Don't disrespect PVD
Don't look at watch when with gf
Don't laugh when teacher says boson
Don't throw calculators that don't belong to me

Do boast about your supernatural abilities
Do criticize others harshly about their inability to do common tasks
Do live a quarter mile at a time

-The SV Code


Well done my friend.


Posted by Lira on Sep-04-2008 19:22:

quote:
Originally posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY
what does this word morals mean? Is this due to religion?

If there are biological foundations for morality, as some scientists claims there are, it certainly predates religion. (refer to the link for a normative interpretation of what morality means)


Posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY on Sep-04-2008 19:24:

quote:
Originally posted by Lira
If there are biological foundations for morality, as some scientists claims there are, it certainly predates religion. (refer to the link for a normative interpretation of what morality means)


I'm a scientist and I don't buy it.


Posted by Lira on Sep-04-2008 19:35:

quote:
Originally posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY
I'm a scientist and I don't buy it.

What science do you study? I'm talking about anthropologists and psychologists, mainly.


Posted by Zild on Sep-04-2008 19:37:

quote:
Originally posted by Lira
What science do you study? I'm talking about anthropologists and psychologists, mainly.


Then why did you say SCIENCE? When you meant social studies.


Posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY on Sep-04-2008 19:38:

quote:
Originally posted by Lira
What science do you study? I'm talking about anthropologists and psychologists, mainly.


My job title and degree states I'm a microbiologist...though its nothing more than a person who studied too much biology =p


Posted by Lira on Sep-04-2008 19:44:

quote:
Originally posted by Zild
Then why did you say SCIENCE? When you meant social studies.

This was a joke, right?
quote:
Originally posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY
My job title and degree states I'm a microbiologist...though its nothing more than a person who studied too much biology =p

Hehe, well, this kind of claim usually comes from people who study other primates (I think Frans de Waal made such claims, for example)... maybe it's not surprising that it isn't a belief you hold

(By the way, I find microbiology fascinating, in case I sound rude)


Posted by Zild on Sep-04-2008 19:48:

Not one bit as I only consider hard sciences to be real science, but I admit I am biased.


Posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY on Sep-04-2008 19:50:

quote:
Originally posted by Lira
This was a joke, right?

Hehe, well, this kind of claim usually comes from people who study other primates (I think Frans de Wall made such claims, for example)... maybe it's not surprising that it isn't a belief you hold

(By the way, I find microbiology fascinating, in case I sound rude)


very cool and your not rude at all...that's usually me


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