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holy crap. it's george bush with a vagina!
If this rank amateur/excuse for a politician gets in, the yanks are so stuffed its not funny... so, so stuffed.
From what I hear McCain / Palin are leading in the current polls.
*points and laughs at America*
someone pinch me..... did she say "you can see Russia from Alaska"??? WTF
also... stolen from another area of TA... GO GO REFORM!!!!!!
awesome reformer.
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| Originally posted by placebo she's irritating |
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| Originally posted by SuspicionVandit She is a very good bullshitter, or at least better than me. She answered the questions very quickly without much pause or stumbling. |
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| Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN no fucking way. she didn't even answer most of the questions. and the questions she did kinda answer displayed a horrible sense of understanding for just about everything. i actually felt a little sorry for her, or maybe it was just me feeling uncomfortable coz she was so shit. she is completely incapable of acting in the office of the president of the USA and any american that even thinks of voting for her is an idiot. |
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| Originally posted by delobbo Curious how you feel about the claims that Obama is not qualified for the job....? |
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| Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN obama is far far sharper when talking about the same issues than she could ever be. i don't care if obama's job description was picking up roadkill, he demonstrates far greater political acumen. she's a fucking creationist for fucks sake. that's all that needs to be said about her capacity for critical thought. |

As a student of foreign policy, Fallows enunciates exactly what terrified me about that interview:
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| The Palin interview 12 Sep 2008 09:01 am It is embarrassing to have to spell this out, but for the record let me explain why Gov. Palin's answer to the "Bush Doctrine" question -- the only part of the recent interview I have yet seen over here in China -- implies a disqualifying lack of preparation for the job. Not the mundane job of vice president, of course, which many people could handle. Rather the job of potential Commander in Chief and most powerful individual on earth. The spelling-out is lengthy, but I've hidden most of it below the jump. Each of us has areas we care about, and areas we don't. If we are interested in a topic, we follow its development over the years. And because we have followed its development, we're able to talk and think about it in a "rounded" way. We can say: Most people think X, but I really think Y. Or: most people used to think P, but now they think Q. Or: the point most people miss is Z. Or: the question I'd really like to hear answered is A. Here's the most obvious example in daily life: Sports Talk radio. Mention a name or theme -- Brett Favre, the Patriots under Belichick, Lance Armstrong's comeback, Venus and Serena -- and anyone who cares about sports can have a very sophisticated discussion about the ins and outs and myth and realities and arguments and rebuttals. People who don't like sports can't do that. It's not so much that they can't identify the names -- they've heard of Armstrong -- but they've never bothered to follow the flow of debate. I like sports -- and politics and tech and other topics -- so I like joining these debates. On a wide range of other topics -- fashion, antique furniture, (gasp) the world of restaurants and fine dining, or (gasp^2) opera -- I have not been interested enough to learn anything I can add to the discussion. So I embarrass myself if I have to express a view. What Sarah Palin revealed is that she has not been interested enough in world affairs to become minimally conversant with the issues. Many people in our great land might have difficulty defining the "Bush Doctrine" exactly. But not to recognize the name, as obviously was the case for Palin, indicates not a failure of last-minute cramming but a lack of attention to any foreign-policy discussion whatsoever in the last seven years. Two details in Charles Gibson's posing of the question were particularly telling. One was the potentially confusing way in which he first asked it. On the page, "the Bush Doctrine" looks different from "the Bush doctrine." But when hearing the question Palin might not have known whether Gibson was referring to the general sweep of Administration policy -- doctrine with small d -- or the rationale that connected 9/11 with the need to invade Iraq, the capital-D Doctrine. So initial confusion would be understandable -- as if a sports host asked about Favre's chances and you weren't sure if he meant previously with the Packers or with the Jets. Once Gibson clarified the question, a person familiar with the issue would have said, "Oh, if we're talking about the strategy that the President and Condoleezza Rice began laying out in 2002...." There was no such flash of recognition. The other was Gibson's own minor mis-statement. American foreign policy has long recognized the concept of preemptive action: if you know somebody is just about to attack you, there's no debate about the legitimacy of acting first. (This is like "shooting in self-defense.") The more controversial part of The Bush Doctrine was the idea of preventive war: acting before a threat had fully emerged, on the theory that waiting until it was fully evident would mean acting too late. Gibson used the word "preemptively" -- but if a knowledgeable person had pushed back on that point ("Well, preemption has was what John F. Kennedy had in mind in acting against the imminent threat of Soviet missiles in Cuba"), Gibson would certainly have come back to explain the novelty of the "preventive war" point. Because he knows the issue, a minor mis-choice of words wouldn't get in the way of his real intent. Sarah Palin did not know this issue, or any part of it. The view she actually expressed -- an endorsement of "preemptive" action -- was fine on its own merits. But it is not the stated doctrine of the Bush Administration, it is not the policy her running mate has endorsed, and it is not the concept under which her own son is going off to Iraq. How could she not know this? For the same reason I don't know anything about European football/soccer standings, trades, or intrigue. I am not interested enough. And she evidently has not been interested enough even to follow the news of foreign affairs during the Bush era. A further point. The truly toxic combination of traits GW Bush brought to decision making was: 1) Ignorance 2) Lack of curiosity 3) "Decisiveness" That is, he was not broadly informed to begin with (point 1). He did not seek out new information (#2); but he nonetheless prided himself on making broad, bold decisions quickly, and then sticking to them to show resoluteness. We don't know about #2 for Palin yet -- she could be a sponge-like absorber of information. But we know about #1 and we can guess, from her demeanor about #3. Most of all we know something about the person who put her in this untenable role. |
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| Originally posted by DOOMBOT Unreal... |

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| Originally posted by delobbo awesome reformer. |
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| Originally posted by RJT Lol, she did not do well. At all. |
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| Originally posted by delobbo someone pinch me..... did she say "you can see Russia from Alaska"??? WTF also... stolen from another area of TA... GO GO REFORM!!!!!! awesome reformer. |
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| Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov 3) "Decisiveness" |
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| Originally posted by whiskers -1 to this video for using the phrase "go vegan for peace" and for stating TWICE that palin proposed a $400,000 initiative first for not getting aerial hunting banned and second time for promoting aerial hunting (hello, contradiction) she's a tool but sensationalist videos like these are just as shitty. |
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| Originally posted by whiskers -1 to this video for using the phrase "go vegan for peace" and for stating TWICE that palin proposed a $400,000 initiative first for not getting aerial hunting banned and second time for promoting aerial hunting (hello, contradiction) she's a tool but sensationalist videos like these are just as shitty. |
Damn that's one hot headed bitch. She's willing to take one Country's word without us checking it out for ourselves and go start a nuclear war, lol. Obama FTW!
PINCHE PUTA!!!!
damn that vid had me chocking up at work
especially when they shot the wolves...
feck her.
pendeja!
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| Originally posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY Damn that's one hot headed bitch. She's willing to take one Country's word without us checking it out for ourselves and go start a nuclear war, lol. Obama FTW! |
Well fuck she's been to Canada and Mexico so ease off a bit guys, you all know Canada is ready to invade at any minute.
fuck this bitch.
given the circumstances and how the questions were aimed at her....
I think she did quite well.
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| Originally posted by Nayil given the circumstances and how the questions were aimed at.... I think she did quite well. |
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| Originally posted by Alex The circumstances being... You're from Texas? |

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