TranceAddict Forums

TranceAddict Forums (www.tranceaddict.com/forums)
- Chill Out Room
-- Lehman Bros.
Pages (3): « 1 [2] 3 »


Posted by saluyamo on Sep-16-2008 06:03:

Another question (DJ and that other economics guy might be able to give a good answer)
Just how bad could things get in your opinion?


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Sep-16-2008 06:09:

quote:
Originally posted by saluyamo
Another question (DJ and that other economics guy might be able to give a good answer)
Just how bad could things get in your opinion?


australia will weather the storm, that's the main thing!


Posted by Zoso on Sep-16-2008 11:05:

All of this could result in some of the most interesting (and perhaps painful) financial restructuring of our time. Our banking industry is already pretty heavily regulated, but I can't help but feel more regs are coming soon. I wonder if things will get bad enough that people will demand/give in to the federalization of the financial system.


Posted by SLR722 on Sep-16-2008 11:21:

Your going to see the effects immediately. Banks are going to get VERY tight with lending (I know it sounds redundant...but its going to get much worse). Anything but AAA credit and your not getting a dime. Not for a house, a car, a t.v., or a microwave. Sadly, this is close to how it should have been from the beg.

This means much less flow of $$$ in the economy. So businesses, small and large, that have already been in the shitter for the past two years won't be doing any better.

It's bad.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Sep-16-2008 11:50:

quote:
Originally posted by Zoso
Our banking industry is already pretty heavily regulated


im happy to be shown otherwise, but im pretty sure it was the absence of adequate regulation playing a part here. im willing to hazard a guess that the US has the most deregulated banking sector out of all the advanced liberal democracies. but that's only a guess.


Posted by iammesol on Sep-16-2008 12:31:

quote:
Originally posted by saluyamo
If 'something' happens money will be useless.


truth.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Sep-16-2008 12:54:

quote:
Originally posted by wesleysnipez
In the backyard of house here me and wife have stored away 30 Grand in wood chest that is lined in metal with plastic liner 5 feet down. I just dug the area to check on it today to be sure cash wasn't rotting on use. The cash was fine but wood chest decayed and metal starting to rust but the plastic liner is in great shape. So put in in new wood chest with metal liner and second plastic liner to be safe. We did that in case if some happens we can survive off it and all.


i love how americans' answers to everything involve some kind of bunker or cache for the day the world ends


Posted by Scoops on Sep-16-2008 13:29:

A.I.G fold yet?


Posted by _Ocean_Drive_ on Sep-16-2008 14:18:

IBs think they're the shizzle. Mouthy c*nts. Serves them all fucking right.


Posted by Rostros on Sep-16-2008 14:30:

The Question is will A.I.G Fall ?


Posted by saluyamo on Sep-16-2008 14:45:

quote:
Originally posted by Rostros
The Question is will A.I.G Fall ?


http://www.reuters.com/article/newI...NG6841220080916

I'm lurking http://finance.google.com/finance like a mofo


Posted by Rostros on Sep-16-2008 14:54:

quote:
Originally posted by saluyamo
http://www.reuters.com/article/newI...NG6841220080916

I'm lurking http://finance.google.com/finance like a mofo


Imagine the China Markets and the effect on all these companies !

Subsidiary Holdings:

AIG American General Life Companies
AIG Annuity Insurance Company
AIG UK Limited
AIG Financial Products Corp.
AIG Hawaii Insurance Company, Inc.
AIG Investments
Utilities, Inc.
AIG Retirement Services, Inc.
AIG SunAmerica Life Assurance Company
The Variable Annuity Life Insurance Company
Allied World Assurance Company Holdings, Ltd
American General Finance Corporation
American Life Insurance Company
Brazos Capital Management, L.P.
HSB Group, Inc.
International Lease Finance Corporation
Lexington Insurance Company
SunAmerica Ventures, Inc.
AIG Financial Advisors
Transatlantic Holdings, Inc.
Transatlantic Re (Brasil) Ltda.
Transatlantic Reinsurance Company
United Guaranty Corporation


Posted by spacechica on Sep-16-2008 14:59:

wait a second,

do you think China could have anything to do with the financial crisis we are seeing these days?

i mean, their accounting standards must be non- existent


Posted by simplcake on Sep-16-2008 15:02:

quote:
Originally posted by Rostros
The Question is will A.I.G Fall ?


new york fed is discussing a bailout with AIG, they'll make a decision at 2pm

dow shoot up 100 points as soon as they reported that


Posted by saluyamo on Sep-16-2008 15:04:

quote:
Originally posted by Rostros
Imagine the China Markets and the effect on all these companies !

Subsidiary Holdings:

AIG American General Life Companies
AIG Annuity Insurance Company
AIG UK Limited
AIG Financial Products Corp.
AIG Hawaii Insurance Company, Inc.
AIG Investments
Utilities, Inc.
AIG Retirement Services, Inc.
AIG SunAmerica Life Assurance Company
The Variable Annuity Life Insurance Company
Allied World Assurance Company Holdings, Ltd
American General Finance Corporation
American Life Insurance Company
Brazos Capital Management, L.P.
HSB Group, Inc.
International Lease Finance Corporation
Lexington Insurance Company
SunAmerica Ventures, Inc.
AIG Financial Advisors
Transatlantic Holdings, Inc.
Transatlantic Re (Brasil) Ltda.
Transatlantic Reinsurance Company
United Guaranty Corporation


I heard china just cut interest rates - I've got no idea how that would affect the companies


Posted by on Sep-16-2008 15:07:

Its pretty funny AIG is in trouble given their self confident (bordering on smug) ads




Posted by Rostros on Sep-16-2008 15:12:

How long can the Governments keep bailing out these massive companies with major loans , Its going to be a long time for the Markets to recover and I dont think they will until the property market has stabilised both in the USA & UK. Nobody wants to loose money as you can tell people are selling shares like its end of the world as if I had shares in HBOS I would be cashing out as I dont think I would be alive to see that money ever again.

The Domino effect has started and nobody can stop it , hide all of your cash in your Mattress safest bet , but dont smoke in bed !


Posted by spacechica on Sep-16-2008 15:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Rostros
How long can the Governments keep bailing out these massive companies with major loans , Its going to be a long time for the Markets to recover and I dont think they will until the property market has stabilised both in the USA & UK. Nobody wants to loose money as you can tell people are selling shares like its end of the world as if I had shares in HBOS I would be cashing out as I dont think I would be alive to see that money ever again.

The Domino effect has started and nobody can stop it , hide all of your cash in your Mattress safest bet , but dont smoke in bed !


if i had money i would have a vault and bars of gold in it


Posted by Zombie0729 on Sep-16-2008 15:19:

what it really means is the same thing it meant 80yrs ago. this game of financial lending is played by the big boys. they take huge risks for the hope of an even bigger pay off.

they do this with our deposists and with investors stock monies. yes lehman probably has 200+ private equity firms that will fall alongside it but the banks are already pitching congress saying this will be devasting to the common tax payer/economy/standard of living you have to bail us out!

the reality is the federal reserve was created to make sure the financial market was stable but by creating it they made sure banks would never full go under. we are still paying for banks that were bailed out in the 70s. because there is a saftey net for the big boys the pressure is on for the MOST amount of profit. so these smaller banks that try and get up there against the giants have to risk EVERYTHING in order to play the game.

its a big problem, i think we're about to see the financial system go down to the giant 5 we're use to. from there they will either monopolize it all (buy out whoever is left) or merge with larger int'ls and be done with the american dollar.

tough times ahead, the housing market is about to hit rock bottom.


Posted by spacechica on Sep-16-2008 15:21:

what makes the housing market go up or down?


Posted by trunks1022 on Sep-16-2008 15:22:

^^^

the quality of MIT grads has certainly dropped in recent years eh?


Posted by saluyamo on Sep-16-2008 15:25:

If I was American and had the money I'd be trying to buy as much property as possible


Posted by Rostros on Sep-16-2008 15:43:

quote:
Originally posted by saluyamo
If I was American and had the money I'd be trying to buy as much property as possible





http://www.rightmove.co.uk/viewdeta...pa_n=2&tr_t=buy

�130,000 Terraced in London Thats approx $220,000 USD

Which can get you this near Apollo Beach



http://www.lipplyrealestate.com/details.php?list=2289938


Posted by Rostros on Sep-16-2008 15:50:

Just to show how expensive property is in London check this



Would you pay �586,286.58 USD / �329,950 GBP for a 2 bedroom house with a bit of land next to it.

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/viewdetails-9116064.rsp?pa_n=1&tr_t=buy&mam_disp=true

--------

Or would you buy this 5 Bed , 5 Bathrooms , Pool ! for $500,000




http://www.lipplyrealestate.com/det...hp?list=2318292


Posted by gehzumteufel on Sep-16-2008 16:07:

quote:
Originally posted by SLR722
Your going to see the effects immediately. Banks are going to get VERY tight with lending (I know it sounds redundant...but its going to get much worse). Anything but AAA credit and your not getting a dime. Not for a house, a car, a t.v., or a microwave. Sadly, this is close to how it should have been from the beg.

This means much less flow of $$$ in the economy. So businesses, small and large, that have already been in the shitter for the past two years won't be doing any better.

It's bad.

You really fail at understanding the economics of lending. If only the people who have tons of money are borrowing, banks would cease to exist for us "poor" folk. Lending will not go to just AAA credit rated borrowers. What has happened though is someone with a FICO of 440 will not get a home loan, will have a really tough time getting a car loan, and income levels and liabilities will be more heeded. Also they will and probably already are, requiring asset and income verification before they approve a loan.

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
im happy to be shown otherwise, but im pretty sure it was the absence of adequate regulation playing a part here. im willing to hazard a guess that the US has the most deregulated banking sector out of all the advanced liberal democracies. but that's only a guess.

Being that I was in the loan industry, I wouldn't say that it was so much deregulation as just banks relaxing the guidelines that fueled this "crisis" that could have been averted. The margin by which loan officers would overstate a persons income for a home loan was insane.


Pages (3): « 1 [2] 3 »

Powered by: vBulletin
Copyright © 2000-2021, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.