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Posted by wolftickets on Oct-13-2008 00:08:

Age of Love - Age Of Love(Emmanuel Top Mix). Only the bassline is used, and it's warped/filtered so it's barely recognizable. In fact this remix is minimal, years before minimal became popular(1997 or so).


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Oct-13-2008 01:46:

quote:
Originally posted by airwalker1
to true but i still think remixs are a waste of time...


Yeah, and you're a fucking clown. The amount of great music that wouldn't exist if nobody made remixes is colossal. It's that simple.


Posted by ziptnf on Oct-13-2008 03:15:

kinda surprised nobody has mentioned Veracocha - Carte Blanche.

Wtf.


Posted by DJ Patski on Oct-13-2008 06:22:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Lighthouse Family - Ocean Drive (Blue Amazon Dub)

A three minute pop song becomes a seventeen minute epic and the only bit they used from the original was a snatch of vocal texture that was put through a stutter.


That's something that always kind of made me think. At what point is a production a remix of another track, or it's own track that 'samples' another tune.


Posted by Domesticated on Oct-13-2008 06:30:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Patski
That's something that always kind of made me think. At what point is a production a remix of another track, or it's own track that 'samples' another tune.


That's a good point.

I think in the past 5 years a lot of producers have forgotten or disregarded the whole point of a remix.

There are a lot of remixes which are basically original, one-off tracks with the original vocal or drum beat slapped on top, which entirely defeats the purpose of the remix.

A great example of a remix for me is Fuzzy Hair's version of Mousse T's Right About Now, of which he has used almost every original element, twisted, mashed, filtered, chopped and distorted to produce something entirely reconisable as a derivative of the original, yet creative and unique at the same time.

Another example is his remix of that god-awful track Nasty Girls by Inaya Day, which he somehow made palatable.

To answer your question, the only real difference between sampling a remixing is:

a) Whether the "remixer" approaches the artist after using the sample to request clearance or whether the remixer is approached and asked to use a song for "remixing".

b) The amount of material used for the second track. If it's minimal, it's "sampled", but if it's a lot, it's a "remix". A "sampled" track generally only uses small snippets of one or two elements, i.e a bass line, vocal or drum loop, while a remix might use long sections of all elements of the track.


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Oct-13-2008 09:34:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Patski
That's something that always kind of made me think. At what point is a production a remix of another track, or it's own track that 'samples' another tune.


Simple. When the original artist pays the producer for his work, it's a remix. When the producer has to pay the original artist to use part of his track, it's a sample.


Posted by Prototrance on Oct-13-2008 12:00:

My vote will always be for the Rapid Eye mix of 'Der Schieber'

Good, but not a sniff of similarity to the original.


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Oct-13-2008 12:40:

quote:
Originally posted by ziptnf
kinda surprised nobody has mentioned Veracocha - Carte Blanche.

Wtf.

...what about it?


Posted by kr00t0n on Oct-13-2008 13:08:

Deadmau5's abortion of a remix of Finished Symphony


Posted by ziptnf on Oct-13-2008 14:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
...what about it?

....the remix fucking sucks?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndxEmjZztks


Posted by airwalker1 on Oct-13-2008 17:57:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Yeah, and you're a fucking clown. The amount of great music that wouldn't exist if nobody made remixes is colossal. It's that simple.
er right time that should of been made making goood tracks in the first place. so no not a clown.


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Oct-13-2008 18:18:

quote:
Originally posted by airwalker1
er right time that should of been made making goood tracks in the first place. so no not a clown.

What?


Posted by airwalker1 on Oct-13-2008 22:10:

quote:
Originally posted by airwalker1
er right,time that should of been made making goood tracks in the first place. so no not a clown.


Posted by airwalker1 on Oct-13-2008 22:11:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
What?
who?


Posted by Cloud on Oct-13-2008 23:33:

quote:
Originally posted by airwalker1
to true but i still think remixs are a waste of time because why spend all that effert on some one's track that was not made by your own hand's and try to conect to there interpretathion of the orignal.


what the fuck


Posted by |Thrax| on Oct-14-2008 00:05:

quote:
Originally posted by Ivand
nazi trance fuck off (holden remix)


Britney Spears - Breathe on me (James Holden Vocal Remix)


Posted by Jason_R on Oct-15-2008 21:03:

Blockster - Grooveline - Matt darey remix. Awesome track


Posted by wolftickets on Oct-17-2008 01:06:

Age of Love - AoL(Mr Sam & Fred Baker mix) is also very different melodically from previous mixes, in addition to being in a different key.
Ayla - Singularity(Miss Thunderpussy Mix), only uses the Symmetry C melody, rather than combining the melodies from the Symmetry C and P mixes. Also changes the key.
Most post-1998 remixes of Cafe Del Mar use the elements of the 3-n-One mix, which most people think is the original.
Jam & Spoon - Stella(Tall Paul Remix)


Posted by DJ Dingel on Oct-18-2008 04:27:

quote:
Originally posted by |Thrax|
Britney Spears - Breathe on me (James Holden Vocal Remix)


They sound fairly similar. You might have a better case with the dub, but it's still fairly obvious that it's the same tune.


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