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Originally posted by echosystm I am an ex-FL user and got pissed off by the developers attitudes towards sidechaining, auto PDC, multicore support, etc.

Auto PDC is the worst

If you ever plan on using any sort of hardware, I strongly suggest you go with another sequencer.

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Originally posted by Owsey2008 Auto PDC is the worst If you ever plan on using any sort of hardware, I strongly suggest you go with another sequencer.

Its not even just hardware, the voxengo plugins and the psp vintage warmer are notorious for screwing delay issues up.

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Originally posted by kitphillips So FL compensates automatically now? Or do you set that yourself? I know Live's got a manual track delay in the mixer

not automaticly, there's a pre and post delays in ms in the mixer channels, which you'll then manually change.

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but I usually just adjust the start position of the clip itself, so you can see the hit on the waveform.

yeah if you do export then you dont' need to worry about latency.

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If you exported the virus control to audio, wouldn't that audio be out of time, since its just a reflection of the MIDI? You'd still have to apply the track delay or move the start point of the clip I think.

well it's still synced in time because of the midi, just record it and put it to start where you want. i usually cut the silence off before the first note so it's easier to place in. working with audioclips is as easy as it gets, i even export most of my heavy vstis too.

We used FL Studio for all of our releases till now.
But for 5 month ago we moved to Cubase.

ive been using FL all mny producing life, and I dont think Ill change anytime soon. Ive got a couple of tracks out, got a new EP coming out in a couple of weeks or so.. so i cant really complain..

it depends on the stile of music you are making.
if you are happy with the program and reach a point were,lets say cubase will better suit your needs then change.

every person here has started some where.belive it or not i first started out on music 2000 on the play stayshion.
made some of the best tracks ever now ive moved to fl/7,and cant make fuck all at the moment,realy pissing me of.

Heatbeat also use FL

I use a lot of hardware synths and the PSP Vintage Warmer for each of them. I just set everything to post 90 ms (30 ms without) and have no problems what so ever.

A lot easier than what I have to do in Ableton Live in my opinion.

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Originally posted by Watts I use a lot of hardware synths and the PSP Vintage Warmer for each of them. I just set everything to post 90 ms (30 ms without) and have no problems what so ever. A lot easier than what I have to do in Ableton Live in my opinion.

I use Ableton, but last week I tried to hook my Ti Desktop up to FL8 with the post at 90ms, which normally works, however, this time it didn't. Does anyone know if the new OS virus just released is compatible with Fl 8?

Thomas Datt, and Mike Saint-Jules are users.

there are lots of professional users. People seem to hate on it for being too straight forward, which in my opinion makes the haters seem back-ass-backwards to me...

I used Reason 2 & 3 for 2 years. Fruity now for 4.

Saw Reasons Thor and Arp additions, got Reason 4. Used it for a week, back to Fruity. I've tried demos of others like Ableton and I always wind up going back to Fruity.

For the few things Fruity doesn't do, I find about a million things in other programs that are that much worse. I'm about 98% sure at this point I'll be nothing but Fruity for life.

I also think a lot of people wind up settling with a DAW simply because of accidental serendipity. Like you just use one program for such a long time, you really get to learn the deeper aspects of it, and because you invest all that time, you become less and less likely of learning something new.

Of course it depends, but thats just the position I'm in, + I just love Fruity.

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Originally posted by Vitamin-DLW People seem to hate on it for being too straight forward

or because it lacks so many important features

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Originally posted by echosystm or because it lacks so many important features

name them.

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Originally posted by Vitamin-DLW name them.

PDC. Multi core support. thats all i know off the top of my head but these are so important for production nowadays.

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Originally posted by pwnage1 PDC. Multi core support. thats all i know off the top of my head but these are so important for production nowadays.

those haven't been an issue for me...

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People seem to hate on it for being too straight forward

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or because it lacks so many important features

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those haven't been an issue for me...

People: (plural) any group of human beings. Well, it has not been an issue for you but for other people it has. The people that hate it probably do have those problems. Not because the GUI is to good.

I really wish I could get it to output and take in SysEx.

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Originally posted by Ry Thomas Ditto, jumped ship a few months back, these little gripes really piss you off

Wot did u jump ship to Ry?

I am currently an FL8 user, but am getting constantly pissed off with the CPU load and I'm running a Quad Core with 4GB of RAM. Am thinking about Cubase, not really feeling live as a full production tool, prob get flamed for that, but hey. Asked about Multi-Core support on the FL forum and was told that when 64 bit Delphi comes out (next year). that they would look at it then. Have been a fruity user for prob the best part of 5/6 years. I understand that there's a stigma attached to Fruity as compared to the Others, but I don't care TBH. My mate who lives down the road, has had releases and done remixes for Ministry of Sound, Nebula and others, his names Karl G BTW, and he did a remix for Tiesto (In the Dark) and hes been a fruity user for prob 8 years. I Just really wish they would listen to their users and sort these lingering issues out.

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Originally posted by Vitamin-DLW those haven't been an issue for me...

Native sidechaining is another issue which is a pain in the ass for me, also no proper Multi-core support neither PDC. The 64 channel mixer is also limiting, I tend to use some more sometimes...
The GUI is a bit ugly but thats not so important and is a matter of preference.

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Originally posted by paulc_dj Wot did u jump ship to Ry? I am currently an FL8 user, but am getting constantly pissed off with the CPU load and I'm running a Quad Core with 4GB of RAM. Am thinking about Cubase, not really feeling live as a full production tool, prob get flamed for that, but hey. Asked about Multi-Core support on the FL forum and was told that when 64 bit Delphi comes out (next year). that they would look at it then. Have been a fruity user for prob the best part of 5/6 years. I understand that there's a stigma attached to Fruity as compared to the Others, but I don't care TBH. My mate who lives down the road, has had releases and done remixes for Ministry of Sound, Nebula and others, his names Karl G BTW, and he did a remix for Tiesto (In the Dark) and hes been a fruity user for prob 8 years. I Just really wish they would listen to their users and sort these lingering issues out. PC

Well a few years back i started getting right into hardware(synths, fx, UAD cards etc). All of those have a delay(audio to leave soundcard, into hardware and back to soundcard), in programmes like Cubase you wouldnt notice this because it is done automatically. In FL you have to manually setup your mixer with PDC - this was my first gripe.

I am running a fairly fast computer C2Duo E6700, 4gb ram etc etc, FL only supports multi core processing for generators only which i think is crap. I use pretty cpu intensive fx so this almost maxed my comp out.

FL's mixer is set up really poor if you are a hardware fx user imo

I found it to be quite buggy and glitchy/unstable too



After trying Cubase 4 i've never looked back, my CPU never goes over 40%, my hardware works seamlessly and never had a hiccup yet *touch wood*. The mixer routing is amazing and it is just generally 100x better for me

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Originally posted by pqpedroland The 64 channel mixer is also limiting, I tend to use some more sometimes...

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Originally posted by evo8

+1 whaaaat...

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Originally posted by Watts I really wish I could get it to output and take in SysEx.

I believe FL8 does just this

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Originally posted by paulc_dj not really feeling live as a full production tool, prob get flamed for that, but hey. PC

Not flaming, but out of curiousity, why? Live seems to be the closest DAW to fruity in a lot of ways...

A98, that sounds just like Lives except that in Live you only use it to change the delay on audio which has come off the soundcard which might be a bit delayed, so its less work. That's what I use the clip start position for too, since midi is usually in sync with live - although sometimes I use delay compensation on a slow pad...

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Originally posted by a98 there's a latecy compensation for individual mixer tracks in the latest FL aswell. besides, if you're gonna export everything to audio (as most people do with hardware), the latency doesn't matter. and you can always throw the vsti plugin out and do it in the old fashion way with midi and audio cables

Whereabouts are the latency compensation settings A98?

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