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I looked really quickly and thought the thread title was ''How often do you get sack?'' aka some weird expression for getting laid

/ESL

geroin, I thought you meant like wear designer clothes an shit.

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Originally posted by FunkyCrew actually it's all over Drugmart now! they had a shelve display of it 2 days ago here's the article: Source

Here's my source;
http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/...dd4a2b0c34a&p=2

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Take COLD-fX study with a few milligrams of salt David Baines, Vancouver Sun Published: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 CV Technologies Inc. says its latest and biggest-ever clinical trial shows that COLD-fX cuts colds and flus by one-third among seniors who have already received a flu shot. The Edmonton-based company is touting these results as more evidence that COLD-fX works. But like all its previous trials, these findings -- as reported by the company in a news release -- have to be taken with a few milligrams of salt. As noted at www.clinicaltrials.gov, the primary purpose of the study was to measure the effect of COLD-fX on the number of laboratory-confirmed upper respiratory infections contracted by seniors who have already had a flu shot. For Jacqueline Shan, the company's president and chief scientific officer, using objective laboratory results, rather than subjective symptom reporting, used to be the acid test. In a February 2006 interview, she told me that finding a statistically significant reduction in laboratory-confirmed cases is "more powerful" than finding a reduction in cases defined by symptoms alone. She noted that people can easily mistake allergy symptoms, for example, for cold symptoms. But with laboratory confirmation "we cannot mistake the condition experienced by the patient for any condition other than a true acute respiratory illness." Alas, the study, by the company's own admission, shows no statistical difference in the number of laboratory-confirmed infections contracted by those who took COLD-fX, as opposed to those who took a placebo. The company said the result may be due to "unprecedented low rates of influenza" during the study period, which may have made differences difficult to measure. Whatever the explanation, the bottom line is incontrovertible: Using the objective measure of laboratory-confirmed infections, there was no statistically significant evidence that COLD-fX works. A secondary aim of the study was to measure the effect of COLD-fX on reducing the number, severity and duration of colds and flus as measured by symptoms such as a cough, sore throat or runny nose (so-called Jackson criteria). Using this criteria, the company said subjects who took COLD-fX reported one-third fewer infections than those who took a placebo. Shan has now changed her tune about the virtues of laboratory-confirmed results versus Jackson-method results. "While both methods were used, the Jackson method is actually more sensitive than laboratory testing in confirming symptomatic upper respiratory infections and gauging their severity," she said in the company's release, contradicting her earlier comments. Consumers should also keep in mind that, while a one-third reduction in the number of reported illnesses sounds like a lot, it may not be. If, for example, there were 250 subjects in each group, and 30 reported a cold in the placebo group versus only 20 in the standard dosage group, that would be a one-third reduction. But 10 fewer colds among 250 subjects isn't much. Consumers would have to ask themselves, does an overall reduction of 10 colds justify 250 people taking two tablets a day for six months? That's pretty expensive prevention This example is hypothetical and may exaggerate the situation. But we can reasonably assume the number of people who actually caught colds and flu was relatively low. Shan herself said it was an unusually mild flu season. So we shouldn't read too much into the relative numbers until we get the absolute numbers. In addition to the number of illnesses, the trial was designed to measure the severity and duration of symptoms. The company, however, didn't release any data on these results. All it said was that additional trial results, including reductions in the severity and duration of Jackson-confirmed infections, "may be clarified during the peer review process and published in a scientific journal." This suggests to me that the results were not favourable. Several other things concern me. While the latest study suggests that COLD-fX reduces the incidence of symptomatic illness by about one-third, two earlier studies published in the Journal of the American Geriatrics Society showed that COLD-fX provided no statistically significant reduction in symptomatic illnesses. The company made no attempt to reconcile this inconsistency. And while the latest study shows COLD-fX did not reduce the number of laboratory-confirmed infections in any statistically meaningful way, the two earlier studies showed they reduced them by 89 per cent. (This is when Shan trumpeted the virtues of using laboratory-confirmed data.) Once again, the company made no attempt to explain this inconsistency. I say the 89-per-cent figure is misleading. The absolute reduction in laboratory-confirmed illnesses was only eight percentage points (from nine per cent to one per cent), small enough to question whether COLD-fX is worth the money and trouble as an immune enhancer. Which raises another point: All the clinical trials to date have been designed to measure the ability of COLD-fX to build the immune system over time and fight colds and flus. None has addressed COLD-fX's ability to provide instant relief through stepped-up dosages. This is why Health Canada has approved COLD-fX only as an immune enhancer, yet the company continues to market a blister package of 18 pills, to be ingested over three days whenever you feel a cold coming on. This regimen is supposed to provide "immediate relief." But in the absence of any scientific evidence to the contrary, I would suggest all it does is relieve consumers of money. [email protected]

I did't find last winter's article... but this one is pretty up to date.

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Originally posted by FunkyCrew geting sick with something like a flu which is contageous has nothing to do with how warm you dress

No, but I thought that lower body temperature contributes to a higher risk of getting sick.

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Originally posted by MissK not true. I take good care of myself and still get sick. it depends on your immune system. I friggin' wish it were that easy!

That may be true, but all things being equal, having a healthy lifestyle definitely decreases your chances of getting sick. You may get sick if you live a healthy life style, but you would get more sick, more frequently if you did not have a healthy lifestyle.

To answer the question of the thread, I get minor illnesses a couple of times a year, and more severe ones once very 2 years or so.

I am very rarely sick- I noticed a significant change in my immune system when I started taking vitamins.

1-2 times a year where ill be out of commission for a couple days. other than that always in good shape. i exercise, take vitamins, and eat pretty well. however, my liver takes a beating quite often. should prob slow my drinking down to avoid the liver cancer in 40 years.

as for cold fx, i took it before and it workeed for me...

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Originally posted by Abercrombie Here's my source; http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/...dd4a2b0c34a&p=2 I did't find last winter's article... but this one is pretty up to date.

thanks Aj, I was actually contemplating buying that stuff
my dad recomended I try taking Echinacea tablets right when I feel I'm getting sick and also during, to boost up the immune system
I feel a bit safe taking that instead of Cold-FX, as it's a 100% natural ingredient so to speak

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Originally posted by The Highroller No, but I thought that lower body temperature contributes to a higher risk of getting sick.

how about those peeps swimming in ice cold water at winter time to boost up their immune system?

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Originally posted by The Wiz I am very rarely sick- I noticed a significant change in my immune system when I started taking vitamins.

I should get on the V-bus then!!!!!!!!
Which ones do you take?

Every Sunday.

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Originally posted by MissK I should get on the V-bus then!!!!!!!! Which ones do you take?

tbh I don't think it helped much in my case - I was taking multi-vitamins and 1-2 tablets of Vit C the whole fall and winter last year, still got sick with awfull regularity

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Originally posted by FunkyCrew how about those peeps swimming in ice cold water at winter time to boost up their immune system?

Does not make a lick of sense. It is very clear, if your body is operating at an abnormal temperature, you are more susceptible to getting sick.

Exposing your body to cold temperatures, only allows you to train to mentally handle those conditions. You learn to control your body, and operate more efficiently at that time. But, if you are exposed to bacteria or viruses, your immune system is less prepared to fight back.

The truth is, when people do polar bear swims, its cold as hell outside, and bacteria is less common, because it has nothing to survive on. But, do the swim, and then share a coffee, or some food, and it is a completely different story. The bacteria still needs a way in.

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Originally posted by Orko Does not make a lick of sense. It is very clear, if your body is operating at an abnormal temperature, you are more susceptible to getting sick. Exposing your body to cold temperatures, only allows you to train to mentally handle those conditions. You learn to control your body, and operate more efficiently at that time. But, if you are exposed to bacteria or viruses, your immune system is less prepared to fight back. The truth is, when people do polar bear swims, its cold as hell outside, and bacteria is less common, because it has nothing to survive on. But, do the swim, and then share a coffee, or some food, and it is a completely different story. The bacteria still needs a way in.

so it's pretty much a myth eh?
stuff like this is still pretty popular back in the ex-Soviet countries.. when I was in primary school, we had a guy in my class whose entire family would go outside in winter in their beach-wear and pour cold water on themselves

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Originally posted by The Highroller [color=ccff00]No, but I thought that lower body temperature contributes to a higher risk of getting sick. That may be true, but all things being equal, having a healthy lifestyle definitely decreases your chances of getting sick. You may get sick if you live a healthy life style, but you would get more sick, more frequently if you did not have a healthy lifestyle. color]

Well of course! DECREASE is the key word here.

I take Cold-fx ONLY and ONLY when I feel the SYMPTOMS of a cold coming on - that's what it's supposed to be used for, NOT to combat a cold once its taken place.

It has worked amazingly, if I ever get a runny nose and start to feel a scratch at the back of my throat - I take the upped dosage of 3, and the next day I'm 100%. Haven't been sick in a year. I also eat lots of garlic which is a very good way to boost your immune system.

Boosting your immune system reduces your risk from catching a cold big time, once your body starts to contract it the slightest bit - your body is already conquering it and you won't even feel the clinical symptoms.

Pretty much eat healthy, sleep lots, get lots of fluids + vitamins + minerals, garlic, cold-fx when feeling the beginning of a flu and echinacea too.

Live your life and have fun.....if you die young...at least you won't have to wear diapers when you get old.

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Originally posted by FunkyCrew stuff like this is still pretty popular back in the ex-Soviet countries.. when I was in primary school, we had a guy in my class whose entire family would go outside in winter in their beach-wear and pour cold water on themselves

hahah so true. I still remember my old elementary textbook advocating this practice.

Zakalyatsya, lol.

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Originally posted by Cosmic Fur hahah so true. I still remember my old elementary textbook advocating this practice. Zakalyatsya, lol.

Zakalyaisya kak stal'!
Omg, remember the movie too?

all this time I thought this actually helps althought I get a cold every time I step into a wet snow puddle lol

I don't get sick too often maybe once a year

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Originally posted by MissK Well of course! DECREASE is the key word here.

So you take good care of yourself (like you said) and you still get sick all the time? hard to believe tbh..

With me for example everytime i get sick i know exactly why. It's sleeping 5 hours a few nights in a row and going outside for a smoke when it's freezing outside. Next day my throat is killing me and i get fever.

I get two days every other year. almost like clockwork.
when i was a kid i just kind of decided i wouldn't get sick any more so I stopped. I still do it once every two years though just so others dont get mad.

all you guys can trace the source of your colds to four days previous to symptoms, it's true, it's damn true.

Washing your hands is the best way to prevent getting sick. It's available anywhere, and it's FREE.

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Originally posted by ChemEnhanced Live your life and have fun.....if you die young...at least you won't have to wear diapers when you get old.

but if you wear diapers when you're young then you can have even more fun!
less time taken on those pesky bathroom breaks!

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Originally posted by geroin So you take good care of yourself (like you said) and you still get sick all the time? hard to believe tbh.. With me for example everytime i get sick i know exactly why. It's sleeping 5 hours a few nights in a row and going outside for a smoke when it's freezing outside. Next day my throat is killing me and i get fever.

hmmm... ok I see what you mean. But no, not for myself. I can take care of myself and still get sick. This year has been brutal for sickness and colds for me and I have partied less than previous years. Go figure. I have found one common denominator. The environment in which I live.

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