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i thought so too, but then i thought of wanting to live as long as i could to enjoy my satan spawn when i finally decide to have them.

*imagines*

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Originally posted by Clovis I hope I die young.

+1.... I'd like to eat it before 45. I was at a client's house yesterday for work, and she had 2 daughters, 14 and 15 years old. They looked like little kids, and then I thought, Jesus when I was 16/17 I banged girls that were 15.

It was a freaky moment. Right away I was thinking, "did I really fuck girls that were that young (even though I was also young) that looked so little? How would I feel if I had a daughter that young and found out she was having sex.... I can't imagine them even doing shit like that, looking so young!" I mean, obviously the difference between girls that young and real women in their 20's is staggering, but Christ.... even though I'm older now it kind of felt creepy to realize I had fucked girls that were that age at a point in my life.

Re: Imagine yourself as an old person (60+ years old)

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles What are your thoughts about getting old?

I'd say it's pretty normal.

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Do you dread it? Do you fear the prospects of your body breaking down, retirement and idleness, fading into irrelevance in the eyes of the young, or the death of your parents, siblings, and friends?

I generally don't dread it.

I'm not terribly concerned about my body breaking down because if it gets to the point where I'm not satisfied with things I'll just call it a life.

Dread retirement? Are you nuts? I'll be retiring as soon as I can comfortably do so, thank you. I look forward to it. There's no reason to dread idleness, as idleness is a choice. If you don't like it then you can just choose to do something...

Fading into irrelevance in the eyes of the young does not matter to me, since the young are already largely irrelevant in my eyes, and I already don't want much to do with them.

I definitely think the worst thing about getting older will be seeing people close to me die; but then against I've done plenty of that already so it isn't a function of getting old per se.

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If you imagine yourself as an old person, do you see yourself as tired, boring, depressed, or sick? Nostalgic about better years that have passed you by? What do you think you will be like as an oldster?

I think it'll be a lot like my life now; except I'll move slower and won't have to work (that's a good trade.)

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Thoughts?

I'm already old enough that I think youth culture is foolish and empty. I have no desire to go back to that lifestyle, so I can't say that getting farther away from it is something that I'm apprehensive about.

I think I'll be better off than most people.

Today's society views old age as something to be looked down upon.
As the body getting weak and "usefulness" failing.

However, I, like ancient civilizations, view old age as a time of great wisdom and enlightenment.

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Originally posted by Arbiter Dread retirement? Are you nuts? I'll be retiring as soon as I can comfortably do so, thank you. I look forward to it. There's no reason to dread idleness, as idleness is a choice. If you don't like it then you can just choose to do something...

Definitely feel the same way.

Like some folks have commented on here, there is some truth to be said about a healthy 60+ person who is remaining mobile and has a sense of wisdom that some find invaluable. I'm more of a traditionalist when it comes to the older generation carrying a sense of experience to the table.

Personally, I couldn't care less how long I live. There are NO guarantees in how long a person may live. I could get hit by a drunk driver tomorrow and never leave the hospital alive again. OR, I could have my flesh slowly deteriorate into a dried up shell of my former self and have my meatbagish-health dangle over the fireplace. OR, I could wax older, wrinkly, still remain active and enjoy a twilight of enlightened peacefulness; engaging the mind in the most productive of less-prestigious paths. Optimism or pessimism is irrelevant and mostly dependent on one's view and attitude of the present.

I am one of the world's most boring humans. I have the most introverted hobbies (music listening and comp., computers, martial arts, books, some games, and some art). I can do most of these when I am an old fart. I have a cell-phone, but 99% of the calls are made by only one person -- my fiance'. I have friends, but they keep disappearing with every stage of my life for new locations, jobs, and other activities... I almost seem to continually reincarnate myself in the same body. Age is merely a byproduct of suffering these continual reinventions of self until I cannot re-fabricate myself in reality any more - RIP.

Am I afraid of becoming an old fart? It is on the bottom of my worry list. Don't you remember that we can die at any time? Well, we can have our health twist and break at any time as well. I could get hit by that drunk driver and become a vegetable instead of expiring. Or I could retain most of my mental facilities but be paralyzed from the neck down and crap my pants without even feeling it.

While I would rather have a clean death than have a lengthy decay process in any way, I have more proactive things to worry about. Things that I can control, I am trying to control such as my education, my relationships, and my pursuit of happiness. I'm young, and therefore have not come across the more negative aspects of aging, but cosmetics and the ability to perform various kicks one-legged for an extended period of time are not treasured possessions.

How does a person remain sane in the light of these lingering threats of unhappiness or death? Everyone has a cop out, and I have my beliefs. Am I afraid to die? I'm only afraid to leave ones that I have managed to love (family, my wife-to-be, etc...)

I don't fear getting old or dying, though I fear becoming senile.

I don't want to live if my quality of life is markedly reduced, or if I'm reduced to a living joke. Prior to death I'm going to take as many drugs and alcohol as I can handle, safe in the knowledge that I can enjoy them to the fullest without repercussions.

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Originally posted by kadomony I think I'll be better off than most people. Today's society views old age as something to be looked down upon. As the body getting weak and "usefulness" failing. However, I, like ancient civilizations, view old age as a time of great wisdom and enlightenment.

thanks i.d.




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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles Definitely feel the same way.

fuck yeah, me too. i would've retired yesterday if i could afford to.

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Originally posted by B_man How does a person remain sane in the light of these lingering threats of unhappiness or death? Everyone has a cop out, and I have my beliefs. Am I afraid to die? I'm only afraid to leave ones that I have managed to love (family, my wife-to-be, etc...)

All forms are temporary, friend.

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Originally posted by Domesticated I don't fear getting old or dying, though I fear becoming senile.

i cant wait until i become senile, going back to a time in your life when everything was totally awesome.....bring it on

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Originally posted by narcism i cant wait until i become senile, going back to a time in your life when everything was totally awesome.....bring it on

I know! Heaps of opportunities to travel to new places, and you get to meet new people all the time!

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Originally posted by Sushipunk I know! Heaps of opportunities to travel to new places, and you get to meet new people all the time!

and imagine all the reposts you could make on ta

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Originally posted by narcism and imagine all the reposts you could make on ta

Repost!

Err... I mean... Nice to meet you Narcism

You seem to be new on this forum. Do you like trance? Or cool clubs? I have this amazing picture I've been wanting to share with everyone. Do you know Sasha? Apparently, he smokes Marlboro Lights, but doesn't travel with a lighter...

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Originally posted by Sushipunk I know! Heaps of opportunities to travel to new places, and you get to meet new people all the time!

i hope you get to meet a late-night-sneaky-orderly often.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN i hope you get to meet a late-night-sneaky-orderly often.

A new one every night! Nothing wrong with being a whore, right?

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Originally posted by Sushipunk A new one every night! Nothing wrong with being a whore, right?

there is when their name is frank.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles What are your thoughts about getting old? Do you dread it? Do you fear the prospects of your body breaking down, retirement and idleness, fading into irrelevance in the eyes of the young, or the death of your parents, siblings, and friends?

Holy fuck I've thought about this ever since I was six because I was like "shit I'm gonna be seven soon and that's really fucking close to 10 which is double fucking digits." Yes I knew how to cuss when I was six.

I've hit my "cute" phase and already into the "hot manly stud" phase but soon before I"ll know it I'll be that "old man in his 60s thinking WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED?" phase. It's pretty depressing watch my mom (baby boomer generation) sigh about how guys used to ask her out in her 20s and she blew them off, how she had so much energy when she was in her 30s, etc.

I've thought about what will sustain me after I'm old and ugly SO much. So far the ONLY conclusion I've made that can keep me happy throughout the rest of my life is to maintain life-long friends.

I'm also considering making a career out of researching ways to prolong life. I want to live forever. People tell me "but jake I want to die" so I go tell them to kill themselves and they frown at me. But what if we could prevent our DNA from chaving off every time it unravels during duplication or keep free-radicals from fucking up our bodies? I'm down to live over two hundred years provided I don't look like Cher, don't you? Hell I was born three-hundred years too early. No one will have this "omg I'm gonna die eventually" complex by the 24th century.

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If you imagine yourself as an old person, do you see yourself as tired, boring, depressed, or sick? Nostalgic about better years that have passed you by? What do you think you will be like as an oldster?

When I'm old, I'm going to be that hilarious old man that says the shit that everyone's thinking. Especially racist things. This old (probably Jewish) lady inspired me to be just like her when she asked me, "Can you open the door for me? I'm so fucking old and fat and this sucks."

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The popular wisdom runs that young people who came of age in the '60s and beyond have a dread of old age, as famously expressed by the Rolling Stones in "Mother's Little Helper": "what a drag it is getting old." Supposedly this has some connection to the increasing dominance of youth culture in Western societies, with its emphasis on hedonism, attractiveness, open and unattached sexual expression, spontaneity, and carefree ecstatic partying, all things that have traditionally been considered improper or ridiculous in an old person. The Baby Boomers, this story goes, are still wistful about their youth, and this is why we see an ever-increasing emphasis on products and lifestyles -- exercise, Viagra, anti-aging creams, cosmetic surgeries -- designed to encourage youthful appearance and vigor. Having swallowed whole the ideals of hedonistic culture in their younger days, today's graying hippies have nothing solid to sustain them in their old age, so they turn to palliatives like therapy and consumer products that offer them a youth and energy that in reality is always receding from them.

Whoaaaaaaaa! I never thought about this. So the trends Hippies set ended up rehashing into the next generation as they got older. You are amazing for thinking this.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN there is when their name is frank.

Sure, Frank is ok. But, I was hoping for a long-term carer. My old mate Josef already has a lovely basement set up, which should cater to my needs just fine. Apparently, his daughter lived there for 24 years or so, and nobody heard her complain in all that time. Sounds like a sweet deal IMO.

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Originally posted by Jake Benson When I'm old, I'm going to be that hilarious old man that says the shit that everyone's thinking. Especially racist things. This old (probably Jewish) lady inspired me to be just like her when she asked me, "Can you open the door for me? I'm so fucking old and fat and this sucks."

Again....no repercussions. I'm going to swear, drink, take drugs, drive fast and do everything I want, safe in the knowledge I'll be dead soon.

True, true story about my Grandma in her final moments on this earth, in conversation with her cousin Mary.

M: It's okay, you'll be in heaven soon. You'll be with all the people you've known and loved throughout your life.

G: *no answer*

M: Angels will be singing your praises, and your parents and your siblings and your cousins and all your friends will welcome you with open arms.

G: *no answer"

M: It will be like a big party, even one you've missed will be there, it will be great!

G: *rolls over to face Mary* "Mary, do me a favour and fuck off, would you?"



My Grandma was a saint in her middle years, but the last five were filled with profanity.

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Originally posted by elFreak my woman encourages me to do this because well a sober person watching a pot head can be entertaining. Especially when i decide to eat weird things at all hours.

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haha mega plus juan


you got the ball and chain now or what? why wasnt i invited to the ceremony?

I'd probably accept senility and old age as the inevitable end of a process I can barely understand, let alone deny. I've been reading Erikson's stages of social development and, based on my current choices, I can see no reason why I'd age with angst and despair. If I'm to end my life being just a pile of irrelevant malfunctioning organs and memories forgotten by those around me, so be it. Until I've taken my last breath, I will keep doing my stuff, reading, producing and finding a meaningful way to fill the voids of such a purposeless enterprise as this thing we all call life.

lolwut!

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