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Originally posted by elFreak i would not count on it. we have the same problems in canada. The system is flawed due to the stress that the boomers will put on the system vs the ability to actually sustain the funds.

I was just being facetious. I fully expect to receive FUCK ALL from the government assuming it and I exist at the time. In fact, my understanding is that SS dollars go into some general fund which is already spent anyway. There is no Social Security deposit account, for example, holding this money and allowing it to accrue interest.

How do I get my Canadian citizenship? America is going to hell and I don't want to follow it

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Originally posted by Zoso I'll be 32 in December. I'll get my Social Security at 65ish, right? RIGHT?

will Social Security even exist by the time your 60? Will there be any funds?

it is as easy as printing more money.

see what i did thar?

avast matey

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Originally posted by elFreak every heard of baby boomers?

Yep. The thing is, America's decline in birth rate has not been as sharp as in other countries; we were still slightly above replacement rate even when the birth rate was lowest, while a number of European and Asian countries have not been. In addition, Americans are stingy and have social security programs with fewer benefits than those in many other countries.



But as I've already said, we have other big problems to deal with, like our crazy lending practices.

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Originally posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY How do I get my Canadian citizenship? America is going to hell and I don't want to follow it

canada will live problems too.

*strokes EU passport*

better than nothing.

Everyone stop what you are doing right now and fuck a friend. Moar babies!!

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Originally posted by Zoso Everyone stop what you are doing right now and fuck a friend. Moar babies!!

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles Yep. The thing is, America's decline in birth rate has not been as sharp as in other countries; we were still slightly above replacement rate even when the birth rate was lowest, while a number of European and Asian countries have not been. In addition, Americans are stingy and have social security programs with fewer benefits than those in many other countries. But as I've already said, we have other big problems to deal with, like our crazy lending practices.

the birth rate is not as declined if you compare to 5 years ago...compare it to the 50's.

stingy or not, there is not enough so it essentially neutralizes your whole argument.

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Originally posted by elFreak the birth rate is not as declined if you compare to 5 years ago...compare it to the 50's. stingy or not, there is not enough so it essentially neutralizes your whole argument.

How? My argument is that everybody's getting fucked one way or another.

yes, but your anus will bleed alot more than the others

Maybe so, maybe not. We shall see.

skewed optimism is what got you guys in trouble in the first place.

Well, that's okay I guess, since I'm not optimistic. I think the world economy is in for a rough ride in the next ten to fifteen years.

if i were you i would worry more about the draft being brought back.

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Originally posted by elFreak if i were you i would worry more about the draft being brought back.

+1, I'd say that will follow this crisis.

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Originally posted by elFreak if i were you i would worry more about the draft being brought back.

Why do you think that would happen, given the extreme unpopularity of our latest wars?

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Originally posted by ChemEnhanced its a short term solution that doesn't solve the problem....eventually the market will collapse and the USA will fall into a major depression which will basically cripple western society....leaving China to take over as the Super Power and invade north america and we will all fall to communist leadership.

woooohooo /dusts off soviet passport

also, $700 billion, that's like $5,000 per taxpayer?

what got america out of the great depression?

this will be attempted again.

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Originally posted by elFreak what got america out of the great depression?

LOL, good luck to our leaders at drumming up enthusiasm for yet another war after Iraq...

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles LOL, good luck to our leaders at drumming up enthusiasm for yet another war after Iraq...

who said it took enthusiasm...

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Originally posted by keithos27 who said it took enthusiasm...

Indeed. Generate enough fear and or hate and they'll buy in. Or, better yet, fuck their opinions and go in anyway. But we'd never do that...ohwaitfuckme.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles LOL, good luck to our leaders at drumming up enthusiasm for yet another war after Iraq...

it almost happened with Georgia-Russia conflict a few weeks back

US started sending weapons to Poland for "defense system" while in the media light we wanted to end conflict through peace talks.


Plus any other 9/11 incident and everyone would be more than glad to pick up their guns and march upon the "enemy"

Meh, the response to a draft now would be ridiculously negative, dwarfing the anger that erupted against the Vietnam draft, especially since current draft bills floating around the legislature (a) include both women and men and (b) don't make any exemption for college, so they would be hitting a lot more people this time around.

all drafts have not been supported or popular by the us population.

they still did it.

throughout the history of man history has had a strange way of repeating itself. Why would this be any different today?

you are mistaken if you think popular opinion means anything outside of an election year.

come on you are smarter than that.

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