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Posted by Prototrance on Sep-29-2008 11:50:

Didn't know it was.....

I used to use it exclusively before I switched to Cubase. A mate stayed with it and has the latest version with all the trimmings, he makes it sound as good as the results I get from Cubase.

I only use it now for audio sampling as I'm 'between soft samplers' at the minute. Kontakt beckons methinks.......

The older FL versions had a few things that I didn't like, one of the main ones was the automation being manual - relying on physical input from the user using a midi control device to 'map' the automation. Steady hand needed, although you could correct it afterwards but it was tedious. This got fixed in later versions with automation using plots like Cubase, Logic etc.

I hated the mixer as well. But I still love the delay and the phasers and flangers. Basic but they had a really nice sound, pity I can't use them anymore.


Posted by Viber on Sep-29-2008 12:23:

It has kinda shit Sound quality compared to Cuebase or even reason.


Posted by david.michael on Sep-29-2008 12:36:

quote:
Originally posted by Viber
It has kinda shit Sound quality compared to Cuebase or even reason.


Nope.


Posted by iammesol on Sep-29-2008 14:56:

quote:
Originally posted by Viber
It has kinda shit Sound quality compared to Cuebase or even reason if you don't use vsts or know what you're doing.


Yep. Ffs, Ozgur Can uses it. Does he not have good sound quality?


Posted by david.michael on Sep-29-2008 14:59:

quote:
if you don't use vsts or know what you're doing.


And, even just using 3xOsc (or, to get fancier, Sytrus), you can make brilliant tracks.

Saying it has "shit sound quality" is just laughable.


Posted by iammesol on Sep-29-2008 15:24:

I was even talking about FL4. Who knows what you can do with the program now... Recently I've heard nothing but good stuff about it.


Posted by ziptnf on Sep-29-2008 16:30:

I've been using FL Studio ever since it was FruityLoops version 3.0. When 4.0 rolled around, it started giving Logic, Acid, and Reason a run for their money as far as fully functional sequencers and supporting every VST out there. If you know what you're doing in any of the 4 programs I mentioned, there are no limits.


Posted by Bayou Boy on Sep-29-2008 22:50:

Fruity was the first program that I used. It was great back then and is probably way better now. I just wish they made a version for Mac, that's the only reason why I am not using it now. After reading this thread, I went to the fruity site just to check it out and I must say that sytrus synth sounds awesome!!!


Posted by Viber on Sep-29-2008 23:59:

quote:
Originally posted by iammesol
Yep. Ffs, Ozgur Can uses it. Does he not have good sound quality?


whoa, i use FL myself because of many reasons but i kinda think it has that "veiled" sound which i dont like, even at Demo songs from pro producers which comes with the app.
Guess it kinda works for Can's music.


Never used more than one or two VST\I with it though.


Posted by mehta on Sep-30-2008 00:45:

veiled sound

I might know what you mean about "veiled sound" but you should explain further.


Posted by charon on Sep-30-2008 02:44:

quote:
Originally posted by nchs09
because there are too many cubans?

Ya thats what I thought this thread was about also


Posted by djrunslinux on Sep-30-2008 02:55:

Everyone has their preferences.Just my take.


Posted by Az on Sep-30-2008 11:21:




Posted by bamski on Sep-30-2008 11:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Ian
The software is only as good as the producers using it. For example it was rumoured Flutlicht/SHOKK stuff was made in FL and they sounded very good. Terry Bones remix of wavy gravy i also think was done in FL & was good. It's about having the skill to get a good sound out of a program and in many cases that doesn't happen simply put.


Rumours tumours: Duvdevani & Aizen used it for ages, correct me if I'm wrong?


Posted by thoughtlessjex on Sep-30-2008 14:41:

DuBam, the lady in your sig and avatar looks exactly like the manager at my school's dining hall.


Posted by BshidoHEAT on Sep-30-2008 23:49:

FLS has it's own sound to it. which if you where around at the beginning, you may associate with amateur, even now when FLs is as good as it is.

BTW, Sytrus is probably the best FLs has, but the DX10 is pretty awesome too. SimSynth is decent as well.


Posted by david.michael on Oct-01-2008 01:36:

quote:
Originally posted by BshidoHEAT
FLS has it's own sound to it.


I don't understand this, aside from kids fucking around with the stock sounds... in which case, you shouldn't be using that as an example in the first place.


Posted by ziptnf on Oct-01-2008 02:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Az




Neither of those two songs you posted does justice to what is actually capable in FL Studio. Listen to this song by Silexz, it will blow you away. All done in FL Studio.

http://www.acidplanet.com/artist.asp?PID=814777&t=7246


Posted by BshidoHEAT on Oct-01-2008 02:49:

quote:
Originally posted by david.michael
I don't understand this, aside from kids fucking around with the stock sounds... in which case, you shouldn't be using that as an example in the first place.


Not that kind of sound.. I mean the sound that comes from the software. Kind of like how a person can tell what track was made with what program.


Posted by bamski on Oct-01-2008 04:39:

quote:
Originally posted by thoughtlessjex
DuBam, the lady in your sig and avatar looks exactly like the manager at my school's dining hall.


Bathe her, and bring her to me.


Posted by Domesticated on Oct-01-2008 04:47:

Anyone who says FL can't produce professional results or that it produces a "trademark" sound is full of shit.

Guyver (of Serious Sounds fame) and Ozgur Can both used early versions of FL and produced excellent, professional results.

As for uniqueness; Guvyer's sound is pretty standard, but I'd say Ozgur's is one of the most unique I've heard. Just Go With It and Dim The Lights being great examples, though they may not have been made in FL.


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Oct-01-2008 09:43:

You can hear the potential of FL if you listen to some of the example tracks they have to demonstrate the features. Used properly it's very good software. I think there's just too many amateurs who use it to make very cheesy, biscuit-tin sounding stuff, and that sound is what you think of when you think of Fruity Loops.


Posted by kadomony on Oct-01-2008 09:47:

FL does everything any other VST capable DAW can do.
Of course, doing some things may be easier, while some may take a little bit of work to get to function the same way.

All in how you use it. I love it.


Posted by euphoria on Oct-01-2008 18:20:

I don't hate it, I find it rather user friendly in comparison to some of the other more complex progs.


Posted by body125z on Oct-01-2008 18:55:

any famous producers using FL studio?


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