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Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Sep-30-2008 02:42:

yeah, keynes. helping create moderate and sustainable economic growth for the best part of a century. what a bastard.


Posted by Krypton on Sep-30-2008 02:44:

quote:
Originally posted by Trancer-X
There was a good debate between Ron Paul and a Fed Governor which further emphasized the argument for doing away with our Fiat currency but I guess you didn't want people to see that he was opposed to their Fabian Socialist Keynesian ways all the way back in 1983.


Yes, I'm the evil thought police, out to censor all tranceaddict threads of all possible opinions thought subversive to the New World Order. We want your soul.


Posted by Lebezniatnikov on Sep-30-2008 02:45:

Ooooooh the Council of Foreign Relations ooooooooh


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Sep-30-2008 02:51:

quote:
Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
Ooooooh the Council of Foreign Relations ooooooooh


dont talk about foreigners, you'll scare the isolationists!!


Posted by Groundhog Boy on Sep-30-2008 02:57:

quote:
Originally posted by Q5echo
i'll be able to live with myself the day i make you a prisoner in one of my internment camps here in east Texas.

How close are you to Marshall?

It's no wonder that your region is the mecca of patent litigation considering how little facts and rational arguments seem to matter with you and how easily you're persuaded, especially when confronted with foreigners. The ability for anyone who once sells a single product in Texas to sue there in representation to the entire US is one of the saddest things that the legal industry has seen, aside from the workings of our Justice Department.


Posted by Trancer-X on Sep-30-2008 06:16:

Ron Paul says that the banking crisis is partly due to the inflationary system brought about by the monopoly control of the Federal Reserve.




Kucinich really gets into it, too!!



Heck, so does Marc Faber!! He even mentions the Fed as having been a contributer!


Posted by Trancer-X on Sep-30-2008 06:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Krypton
I think the more dangerous apparatus operating within our government is the military-industrial complex which is very strong here. Billions go out to "defense contractors" every year, and their profits rely on a state of continual war and making sure we always have an enemy. I call it the state within a state, the National Security Government, which operates in secret, and is active on a massive global scale. Since the 1950's, how many countries have had their governments taken down or directly threatened by the CIA? Iran, Nicaragua, Cuba (8 assassination attempts on Castro & the Bay of Pigs), Brazil, Chile, Egypt, Guatemala...There have been tens of thousands of covert operations over the decades, operations which we the people, will never know about, but yet, they are carried out in our name, in the name of our national security. I challenge any of you authoritarian followers to tell me Iran's nationalization of their oil sector threatened our national security. Or that Guatemala's attempted nationalization of its resources was also a threat to our national security...I'm all ears...


Okay, and where does the money come from that supports our perpetual wars and our 700+ military bases in 130 different countries?

Think, buddy. Think!

I could easily manifest a video clip of Ron Paul saying it if you need some more clues.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Sep-30-2008 06:50:

quote:
Originally posted by Trancer-X
Okay, and where does the money come from that supports our perpetual wars and our 700+ military bases in 130 different countries?

Think, buddy. Think!

I could easily manifest a video clip of Ron Paul saying it if you need some more clues.


i know this one!

its the jews! no, the illuminate! no hang on, the masons! the Rockefellers? aliens!

surely its one of those.


Posted by Q5echo on Sep-30-2008 07:24:

quote:
Originally posted by Groundhog Boy
It's no wonder that your region is the mecca of patent litigation considering how little facts and rational arguments seem to matter with you and how easily you're persuaded, especially when confronted with foreigners. The ability for anyone who once sells a single product in Texas to sue there in representation to the entire US is one of the saddest things that the legal industry has seen, aside from the workings of our Justice Department.


dude it was a f**king joke.

i don't take anything TrancerX says seriously since he lied to me about his best friend beating the amatuer weight-lifting benchpress record by 100lbs.


Posted by Trancer-X on Sep-30-2008 07:25:

Duhhhhhh...

the Federal Reserve


Posted by Trancer-X on Sep-30-2008 07:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Q5echo
dude it was a f**king joke.

i don't take anything TrancerX says seriously since he lied to me about his best friend beating the amatuer weight-lifting benchpress record by 100lbs.


Actually, he held like seven powerlifting records for his age and weight class and I'd be willing to bet that he still holds them as it was only a few years ago.

But let's keep diverting the discussion away from the subject because that's what you cowardly traitors to humanity like to do.


Posted by Groundhog Boy on Sep-30-2008 07:44:

quote:
Originally posted by Q5echo
dude it was a f**king joke.

i don't take anything TrancerX says seriously since he lied to me about his best friend beating the amatuer weight-lifting benchpress record by 100lbs.

My comment had nothing to do with your condescension, or "joke," just with where you're from and the current state of IP litigation there. There's a reason it's been highlighted in Congress lately.

It's OK, as far as regional background, I've lived with the same sort of handicap all my life.


Posted by dcougar99 on Sep-30-2008 12:01:

The Federal Reserve Act of 1913, also called the Glass-Owen Bill, established the Federal Reserve System in the United States. The bill was proposed as a result of hearings held by a Congressional committee, headed by Representative Ars�ne Pujo of Louisiana, charged with investigating the control of the U.S. economy by influential bankers. The bill was passed by the Senate on the evening of December 23, 1913 by a vote of 43-25, with 27 Senators absent or abstaining. President Wilson signed the bill into law an hour after its passing.


President Wilson later came to regret signing the bill: "I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the civilized world no longer a Government by free opinion, no longer a Government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men."


Posted by Krypton on Sep-30-2008 17:35:

quote:
Originally posted by Trancer-X
Okay, and where does the money come from that supports our perpetual wars and our 700+ military bases in 130 different countries?

Think, buddy. Think!

I could easily manifest a video clip of Ron Paul saying it if you need some more clues.


From the sale of treasury bonds.


Posted by Shakka on Sep-30-2008 17:54:

http://www.chrismartenson.com/money_creation
http://www.chrismartenson.com/the_fed
http://www.chrismartenson.com/brief_history_of_US_money


Posted by Trancer-X on Oct-01-2008 17:10:

Thumbs up END THE FED!!!

What Can YOU Do
to
"END THE FED"?


As these dramatic and world-changing days unfold, those who are conscious of the nature of these events must ask what contribution they can make to America�s future in this context. We all, each and every one of us, can and MUST do whatever possible to take advantage of this EXCELLENT OPPORTUNITY to wake people up to the nature of the system and organize the people to DEMAND real change.

People are fired up. By November 22nd, after the election, the nation�s situation may be dire indeed.Do we, those who are clearest about the causes and consequences of America�s plight, have the capacity to lead the American people in a clean break with the past and a renewal of our best traditions? Are we truly a R3VOLUTION or just a historical footnote?

YOU are and must be a LEADER. Shake off your fears. Cast aside your obstacles. Mount the stage of history and contest the future!

THE TIME IS NOW...OR NEVER!

WHAT YOU CAN DO

It is crucial that we begin NOW to generate a tide that will crest to its fullest on November 22nd. Here are some suggestions for how you can take up the gauntlet and make your mark on history. These are just SOME ideas...cut loose and get out there and MAKE IT HAPPEN!

1. INTERNET OUTREACH: Every online community needs an END THE FED! Group organizing for 11/22.

Do you lead or are you an active member of one of these groups or others? Please get discussion and organizing started for �End the Fed!� in your internet space right now!

� Ron Paul Forums
� Daily Paul
� Campaign for Liberty
� Restore the Republic
� Break the Matrix
� Facebook
� MySpace
� Meetup Groups
� Online spaces for Libertarian, Green, Constitution Party, Ralph Nader and any other coalition organizations
� Get an �End the Fed!� banner or badge placed on every web site possible
� Text comments at blogs, YouTube and elsewhere about November 22nd
� Send an email to all your contacts announcing the November 22nd End the Fed! protests and urging them to join up and get involved

2. LOCAL OUTREACH: Your city needs to be bannered with �End the Fed! Nov. 22nd�; distribution of flyers at public meetings attracting a potentially open-minded audience; tabling at college campuses and public squares, post offices and supermarkets; invite to participate and build a coalition with local peace, anti-war, anti-establishment groups...

� Student groups
� Biker clubs
� Pro-Marijuana groups
� Peace and Anti-War groups
� Flyer at the polls on November 4th
� Call in to local talk shows and plug the 11/22 protest
� Contact local media
� Listings on Craig�s List and local print publications
� Local cable access

3. NATIONAL and LOCAL OUTREACH: We need to create the biggest possible coalition for November 22nd. Let�s bring everyone within the Freedom Movement together for this one. Let�s also take Ron Paul�s cue and involve conscious people from across the political spectrum who agree on this one issue: END THE FED! This needs to be done on both the NATIONAL and LOCAL levels.

� Recruit high profile individuals that you know as Endorsers

-Politicians and elected officials
-Media personalities
-Recognized activists
-Entertainment personalities
-Writers and Authors
-Candidates for office

� Recruit organizations to co-sponsor the November 22nd protests

-Patriot, Freedom, Libertarian, Constitutionalist groups
-Anti War and Peace and Non-Intervention
-Anti IRS, Tax Honesty
-3rd Party: Green, Libertarian, Constitution Party, Nader, others
-Civil Liberties organizations

4. Special Tasks: There are some important roles that need to be filled asap!


� YouTube video production
� YouTube Channel Manager
� Web Master and assistants
� National Media Outreach

This is by no means exhaustive, but these are the MINIMUM tasks which any serious protest movement should be executing. If we are to perform on November 22nd, we must execute. The rubber must meet the road with authority. Only YOU can do this. Do not look over your shoulder for someone else to take responsibility. We either rise to the challenge now, or we fall to Tyranny soon. The choice is ours.

END THE FED!

The End Begins November 22nd

Here�s some text for �Comments� posting:

END THE FED!

The End Begins November 22nd

Every Fed Bank. Every Fed Office.

38 Cities. One Purpose.


END THE FED!

http://www.endthefed.US
http://www.endthefed.blogspot.com


Posted by Trancer-X on Oct-03-2008 01:59:

Here's one from The Corbett Report that talks about derivatives and the trillions of dollars
that the Fed has been pumping into our system to keep it afloat






http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zM79QpaxvOs


Posted by Trancer-X on Oct-03-2008 06:22:

The Collapse of the Dollar



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voJXIH3rQaU


Jim Rogers: The Fed Should Be Abolished



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ye1u2TgYmXo


Posted by Trancer-X on Oct-03-2008 08:10:

quote:

"I wrote into the bill which was introduced by me in the Senate on June 26, 1913, a provision that the powers of the System should be employed to promote a stable price level, which meant a dollar of stable purchasing, debt-paying power. It was stricken out. The powerful money interests got control of the Federal Reserve Board through Mr. Paul Warburg, Mr. Albert Strauss, and Mr. Adolph C. Miller and they were able to have that secret meeting of May 18, 1920, and bring about a contraction of credit so violent it threw five million people out of employment. In 1920 that Reserve Board deliberately caused the Panic of 1921. The same people, unrestrained in the stock market, expanding credit to a great excess between 1926 and 1929, raised the price of stocks to a fantastic point where they could not possibly earn dividends, and when the people realized this, they tried to get out, resulting in the Crash of October 24, 1929."


- Senator Robert L. Owen, testifying before the House Committee on Banking and Currency in 1938



quote:

"If all the bank loans were paid, no one could have a bank deposit, and there would not be a dollar of coin or currency in circulation. This is a staggering thought. We are completely dependent on the commercial banks. Someone has to borrow every dollar we have in circulation, cash, or credit. If the banks create ample synthetic money we are prosperous; if not, we starve. We are absolutely without a permanent money system. When one gets a complete grasp of the picture, the tragic absurdity of our hopeless position is almost incredible, but there it is. It [the banking problem] is the most important subject intelligent persons can investigate and reflect upon. It is so important that our present civilization may collapse unless it becomes widely understood and the defects are remedied very soon."


- Robert H. Hemphill, Senate Document 23, "National Economy and the Banking System of the United States", pp 102,
Jan 24, 1939, 76th Congress, 1st Session, Vol 3.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Oct-03-2008 08:19:

Wikipedia: conspiracy theory guide

3 Reduces morally complex social phenomena to simple, immoral actions;
Impersonal, institutional processes, especially errors and oversights, interpreted as malign, consciously intended and designed by immoral individuals.

4 Personifies complex social phenomena as powerful individual conspirators; Related to (3) but distinct from it, deduces the existence of powerful individual conspirators from the 'impossibility' that a chain of events lacked direction by a person.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Oct-03-2008 10:31:

quote:
Originally posted by Trancer-X
Attack the messenger instead of the message. Yeah, that takes a lot of skill.


Posted by Trancer-X on Oct-03-2008 10:31:

quote:
Mr. Chairman, we have in this country one of the most corrupt institutions the world has ever known. I refer to the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve banks. The Federal Reserve Board, a Government Board, has cheated the Government of the United States and he people of the United States out of enough money to pay the national debt. The depredations and the iniquities of the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal reserve banks acting together have cost this country enough money to pay the national debt several times over. This evil institution has impoverished and ruined the people of the United States; has bankrupted itself, and has practically bankrupted our Government. It has done this through the maladministration of that law by which the Federal Reserve Board, and through the corrupt practices of the moneyed vultures who control it.

Some people think the Federal Reserve Banks are United States Government institutions. They are not Government institutions, departments, or agencies. They are private credit monopolies, which prey upon the people of the United States for the benefit of themselves and their foreign customers. Those 12 private credit monopolies were deceitfully placed upon this country by bankers who came here from Europe and who repaid us for our hospitality by undermining our American institutions

- Congressman Louis T. McFadden (former Chairman of the Committee on Banking and Currency),
Congressional Record, House pages 1295 and 1296, June 10, 1932


quote:
"That men do not learn very much from the lessons of history is the most important of all the lessons of history."

- Aldous Leonard Huxley


Posted by Trancer-X on Oct-04-2008 19:49:

I'm actually kind of amazed that they allowed this on YouTube. lol

It's good to hear Ron Paul speaking the truth about inflation.


Posted by {b.s.e.} on Oct-05-2008 00:12:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
Wikipedia: conspiracy theory guide

3 Reduces morally complex social phenomena to simple, immoral actions;
Impersonal, institutional processes, especially errors and oversights, interpreted as malign, consciously intended and designed by immoral individuals.

4 Personifies complex social phenomena as powerful individual conspirators; Related to (3) but distinct from it, deduces the existence of powerful individual conspirators from the 'impossibility' that a chain of events lacked direction by a person.


You're so far off the mark. Is it sheer ego that permits you to act in such a manner?

How can you be in support of something so clearly diabolical? It serves no other purpose than to enslave a nation through debt, the very ideal that America fought against the British Empire for sovereignty.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Oct-05-2008 00:54:

quote:
Originally posted by {b.s.e.}
You're so far off the mark. Is it sheer ego that permits you to act in such a manner?

How can you be in support of something so clearly diabolical? It serves no other purpose than to enslave a nation through debt, the very ideal that America fought against the British Empire for sovereignty.


youre just another person that doesn't understand what the fed does or how it works. i suggest you go to your local university and enrol in economics 101, then we'll talk.

every single country worth noting has a central bank. do the math


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