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Originally posted by {b.s.e.} Novus Ordo Seclorum, I wonder... if you translated that from Latin into English... No, nothing like the New World Order. A New Order for the Ages? Yeah, that's it. Albeit, a dead language is pretty awkward to translate into something so complicated and layered as the English language.

This doesn't sound right. I'm not sure languages evolve in complexity. LIRA?

As far as I know english has lost an incredible amount of declensions and verb conjugations and shit

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On But- But if mankind would just let go of his need to have currency... it would be instant Utopia. All of our problems would be solved because killing the rich leaves only reasonable, peaceful people to govern themselves according to basic human rights to education, healthcare and emotional well-being.

Worked in Zimbabwe, right?

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Originally posted by {b.s.e.} Novus Ordo Seclorum, I wonder... if you translated that from Latin into English... No, nothing like the New World Order. A New Order for the Ages? Yeah, that's it. Albeit, a dead language is pretty awkward to translate into something so complicated and layered as the English language. You're deluding yourselves if you think this sort of attitude is benefiting anything but your own misplaced egos.

lol you sound like me in 9th grade
chill out, have a hot dog.

you don't have to live in this world if you don't want to



ps, 'seclorum' is genitive, "of the ages"

Lol, fuck the free market. You people are nuts if you think that a Corporate Enterprise Government run by billionaires is the path to liberation and true freedom of humanity.

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"it might surprise you, but capitalism has engendered more freedom of choice and determination than any previous system of stratification/distribution. there is far more social mobility in advanced liberal democratic societies than there has ever been previously."

Yeah, there was a brief period of time where America wasn't enslaved to a massive national debt. Now capitalism forms foreign agendas, starts wars, and pushes the Patriot Act in your face..

Capitalism causes sovereign countries to sell their resources, it corrupts politicians and forces people into poverty. It outsources your jobs, it segregates us as individuals through greed and competition.

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Originally posted by {b.s.e.} Lol, fuck the free market. You people are nuts if you think that a Corporate Enterprise Government run by billionaires is the path to liberation and true freedom of humanity. Yeah, there was a brief period of time where America wasn't enslaved to a massive national debt. Now capitalism forms foreign agendas, starts wars, and pushes the Patriot Act in your face.. Capitalism causes sovereign countries to sell their resources, it corrupts politicians and forces people into poverty. It outsources your jobs, it segregates us as individuals through greed and competition.

Wrong...That would be corporatism/fascism.

Capitalism is nothing more than a lack of force...a lack of government violence. It's principles are completely contrary to the situation we have today.

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Originally posted by Capitalizt Wrong...That would be corporatism/fascism. Capitalism is nothing more than a lack of force...a lack of government violence. It's principles are completely contrary to the situation we have today.

It's all part and parcel. Regardless of its intentions 200 years ago, greed and power corrupts until what was held by the hands of the many, is clutched in the fists of the few.

Is no one a little weirded-out that the global elite (forgive the term) dress up like Klansmen and burn effigies, whilst chanting to Moloch?

Lol. _I'm_ the fucked one.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN anyone that thinks this movie has anything to offer should seek professional help.

totally nonsense. this movie is on point. it's not too hard to believe either that major religions from different epochs would be so similar.

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Originally posted by {b.s.e.} Lol, fuck the free market. You people are nuts if you think that a Corporate Enterprise Government run by billionaires is the path to liberation and true freedom of humanity. Yeah, there was a brief period of time where America wasn't enslaved to a massive national debt. Now capitalism forms foreign agendas, starts wars, and pushes the Patriot Act in your face.. Capitalism causes sovereign countries to sell their resources, it corrupts politicians and forces people into poverty. It outsources your jobs, it segregates us as individuals through greed and competition.

every single society that has attempted to "fuck the free market" has ended up far worse off than they would have EVER been before. if marx couldn't devise an alternative im sure as shit that you cant.

capitalism also has nothing to do with your patriot act. seriously, grow up.

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Originally posted by diesel_tron3000 totally nonsense. this movie is on point. it's not too hard to believe either that major religions from different epochs would be so similar.

if this movie is anything like the first one, you dont know what the fuck youre talking about.

Harley, I really like you... but I just can't take these videos seriously

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Originally posted by airwalker1 i was completly engaged by this film,in fact i wached ths hole 2 hours. it defently hit a core with me. and i wish i could see the changes that it preposed. money holds no value! the ideal of the venius prodject looked like something out of star treck, of witch i hold as a wanting possabity. should of banged this post up at the interlect forum.

i think this post sums up the kind of people who buy into this nonsense.

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Originally posted by Lira Harley, I really like you... but I just can't take these videos seriously

yeah, i really liked him before i discovered he was another crackpot conspiracy nutjob.

Internet idiocy: the latest pandemic
By: Taylor Kessinger


To be ignorant has always been easy: Simply sit back in your recliner and watch Fox News.

But to be genuinely misinformed has become exponentially easier with the rise of the Internet, as lies and half-truths gush forth through its twisted web of data-tubes.

In the pre-Web age, publishing something which was patently false required a fair bit of money or, at the very least, access to some dumb schmuck who was willing to publish your ideas for you, and giving legitimacy to ill-conceived or outright moronic views required hours and hours of cherry-picking quotes and struggling to find sources that agreed with you.

The electronic age has largely done away with this demand. Now, disseminating information requires money for bandwidth, hosting and little else other than time.

As a kid, I specifically remember being told not to believe everything I read on the Internet. But humans have an odd reaction to claptrap: Most of us simply go along with whatever we hear as long as it comes from a seeming authority. Our world revolves around the Internet so much that even YouTube movies, blog posts and forum rants appear authoritative.

As far as Internet bullshit goes, nothing beats "Zeitgeist: The Movie." Released on Google Video, the film is broken up into three parts which claim, respectively, that Jesus was nothing more than a pagan god and all of Christianity is really based on astrology; that the 9/11 "truth" movement is correct; and that the Federal Reserve is the product of a cabal of international bankers whose ultimate goal is to rule over all humanity with an iron fist. This trio of bizarre theories is touted by a legion of Internet armchair experts, and it currently has a 4.5 rating on Google Video with more than 23,000 votes.

None of these ideas are new; in particular, the 9/11 Truth Movement is itself a product of the Internet. But becoming familiar with, for example, the Jesus-myth hypothesis once required hours of poring through texts so poorly written that the falsity of their content was manifestly obvious. Watch the movie, though, and you'll be so bombarded with cool sound bites, slick images and video clips and the assertive voice of a dogmatic narrator that you, too, might join the ranks of the movie's supporters.

Miscreants like creationists, white nationalists, Ron Paulogists and conspiracy theorists all depend on this air of legitimacy to convince others of their views. Witty sayings, fear tactics and a cool, assertive air all enable them to convince the unwitting public of their points.

As yet another example, consider the Internet campaign which insists that "Black Hussein Osama" is really a Muslim operative who wants to bring down the United States from the inside out. They've cleverly mined quotes and images to make it appear as though Barack Obama disrespects our flag and, with it, our country.

There is no shortage of information which refutes this viewpoint. But this type of conspiracy relies on two elements common to web surfers: First, they're only willing to check facts at the most superficial level, which usually means they'll read a message or watch a clip just once before forming an opinion and moving on. Second, the honest, savvy users are always drowned out by a sea of morons. Check the comments for YouTube videos of Obama "disrespecting the flag," and you'll see this in action.

To be fair, online databases of information drawn from legitimate print publications have made it much easier to check facts as the Internet has aged - for those of us who care to look. And at the very least, we can rest assured that Internet idiocy isn't all that bad. Gullible fools provide endless entertainment for the rest of us, and campaigns of misinformation haven't had overly hurtful externalities: Even Ron Paul's legion of Internet supporters hasn't catapulted him into winning any states.

The best possible solution to the problem of Internet stupidity is probably the most complicated. We need to ensure that all levels of our society are trained to be at least twice as skeptical in cyberspace as they are in meatspace.

Fortunately, as our generation slowly nears the top of the political food chain, solving Internet problems should become easier and easier as people born and raised on the 'Net acquire critical roles in the legislative process. In the meantime, the best thing we can do is to be careful on our perilous trek through the information superhighway.

http://media.wildcat.arizona.edu/me...c-3171363.shtml

He's right about everything except Ron Paul

Someone please give a COR version of this film.

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Originally posted by elFreak i think this post sums up the kind of people who buy into this nonsense.

that's because you havent got a fuckin clue.
now fuck of,try and learn something more then the sad reason you live on this planit.

oh and try to step out of that bubble you curently inhabit.or even better stick one of those unicorns up you ass."fuckin beastieality lover"

Heh, 'crackpot'.

Ok.


If taking an account over eyewitness accounts of secondary, tertiary, and preliminary explosions from the WTC and its subbasement over the obvious whitewash of the 9/11 Commission, then I guess, yeah, I'm a crackpot.

And if thinking that because George W. lied about his first knowledge is cause enough for a second investigation, if only to determine what he exactly knew, then yeah, call me a crackpot.

If thinking that Cheney and Bush testifying together behind closed doors without a transcript is fishy, and grounds for further suspicion, yeah, you guessed it: I'm a crackpot.

I don't blame any of you for believing that I'm a moron, or insane, or a crackpot. It bothers me not in the slightest.

It's to be noted that Thomas Kean just came out a few months back and stated that the Commission was set up to fail. Not enough money, not enough time, by the most partisan people in the Country.

Think what you will, as long as you're actually thinking.

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Originally posted by airwalker1 that's because you havent got a fuckin clue. now fuck of,try and learn something more then the sad reason you live on this planit. oh and try to step out of that bubble you curently inhabit.or even better stick one of those unicorns up you ass."fuckin beastieality lover"

its amazing how many followers of zeitgeist cant spell or construct sentences.

if youre "learning" anything from movies like zeitgeist then youre simply ignorant of how things work in the real world.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN Internet idiocy: the latest pandemic By: Taylor Kessinger To be ignorant has always been easy: Simply sit back in your recliner and watch Fox News. But to be genuinely misinformed has become exponentially easier with the rise of the Internet, as lies and half-truths gush forth through its twisted web of data-tubes. In the pre-Web age, publishing something which was patently false required a fair bit of money or, at the very least, access to some dumb schmuck who was willing to publish your ideas for you, and giving legitimacy to ill-conceived or outright moronic views required hours and hours of cherry-picking quotes and struggling to find sources that agreed with you. The electronic age has largely done away with this demand. Now, disseminating information requires money for bandwidth, hosting and little else other than time. As a kid, I specifically remember being told not to believe everything I read on the Internet. But humans have an odd reaction to claptrap: Most of us simply go along with whatever we hear as long as it comes from a seeming authority. Our world revolves around the Internet so much that even YouTube movies, blog posts and forum rants appear authoritative. As far as Internet bullshit goes, nothing beats "Zeitgeist: The Movie." Released on Google Video, the film is broken up into three parts which claim, respectively, that Jesus was nothing more than a pagan god and all of Christianity is really based on astrology; that the 9/11 "truth" movement is correct; and that the Federal Reserve is the product of a cabal of international bankers whose ultimate goal is to rule over all humanity with an iron fist. This trio of bizarre theories is touted by a legion of Internet armchair experts, and it currently has a 4.5 rating on Google Video with more than 23,000 votes. None of these ideas are new; in particular, the 9/11 Truth Movement is itself a product of the Internet. But becoming familiar with, for example, the Jesus-myth hypothesis once required hours of poring through texts so poorly written that the falsity of their content was manifestly obvious. Watch the movie, though, and you'll be so bombarded with cool sound bites, slick images and video clips and the assertive voice of a dogmatic narrator that you, too, might join the ranks of the movie's supporters. Miscreants like creationists, white nationalists, Ron Paulogists and conspiracy theorists all depend on this air of legitimacy to convince others of their views. Witty sayings, fear tactics and a cool, assertive air all enable them to convince the unwitting public of their points. As yet another example, consider the Internet campaign which insists that "Black Hussein Osama" is really a Muslim operative who wants to bring down the United States from the inside out. They've cleverly mined quotes and images to make it appear as though Barack Obama disrespects our flag and, with it, our country. There is no shortage of information which refutes this viewpoint. But this type of conspiracy relies on two elements common to web surfers: First, they're only willing to check facts at the most superficial level, which usually means they'll read a message or watch a clip just once before forming an opinion and moving on. Second, the honest, savvy users are always drowned out by a sea of morons. Check the comments for YouTube videos of Obama "disrespecting the flag," and you'll see this in action. To be fair, online databases of information drawn from legitimate print publications have made it much easier to check facts as the Internet has aged - for those of us who care to look. And at the very least, we can rest assured that Internet idiocy isn't all that bad. Gullible fools provide endless entertainment for the rest of us, and campaigns of misinformation haven't had overly hurtful externalities: Even Ron Paul's legion of Internet supporters hasn't catapulted him into winning any states. The best possible solution to the problem of Internet stupidity is probably the most complicated. We need to ensure that all levels of our society are trained to be at least twice as skeptical in cyberspace as they are in meatspace. Fortunately, as our generation slowly nears the top of the political food chain, solving Internet problems should become easier and easier as people born and raised on the 'Net acquire critical roles in the legislative process. In the meantime, the best thing we can do is to be careful on our perilous trek through the information superhighway. http://media.wildcat.arizona.edu/me...c-3171363.shtml

Interesting.

Well, I'm reluctant to call that "idiocy", specially in Harley's case. But, the fact that people actually buy those ideas does boggle the mind

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Originally posted by Lira Interesting. Well, I'm reluctant to call that "idiocy", specially in Harley's case. But, the fact that people actually buy those ideas does boggle the mind

I haven't bought a damn thing.

I've used rational discourse to come to my conclusions, well before Zeitgeist was produced. The fact that people passively swallow the slick bullshit fed to them through corporate news is what boggles my mind, to be honest.

The CEO of the Washington post attends Bilderberg group meetings in secrecy. Not very press-like, is it?

Rockefeller said it best in '91.

"...it would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...rberg_attendees

They have people of power from all over the world, the elite of the elite. People with powerful connections, billions of dollars, and a common agenda: one world government.

Get it through your heads, it's not a lie.

They're the liars.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN its amazing how many followers of zeitgeist cant spell or construct sentences. if youre "learning" anything from movies like zeitgeist then youre simply ignorant of how things work in the real world.

Honestly, I have very little respect for you as an intellectual.

It's pretty funny how seriously you take yourself.

Re: Re: Zeitgeist : Addendum

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Originally posted by inconspicuous just leave already, you twat.

You deleted your thread, am I to understand you weren't appreciative of the track I made for you?

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Originally posted by {b.s.e.} Honestly, I have very little respect for you as an intellectual. It's pretty funny how seriously you take yourself.

oh god

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Originally posted by {b.s.e.} I haven't bought a damn thing. I've used rational discourse to come to my conclusions, well before Zeitgeist was produced.

That's why I'd never call it "idiocy"

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Originally posted by {b.s.e.} They have people of power from all over the world, the elite of the elite. People with powerful connections, billions of dollars, and a common agenda: one world government. Get it through your heads, it's not a lie.

I hope it isn't: A "One World Government" sounds really awesome!

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Originally posted by Sunsnail oh god

Don't get me started on him.

At any rate, I've provided a link to a movie that most will consider bullshit; the few that appreciate it: I hope you enjoy it & project more positivity into the world.

Lol. Remember, kids: sentence structure and grammar helps.

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Originally posted by Lira That's why I'd never call it "idiocy" I hope it isn't: A "One World Government" sounds really awesome!

A world without hegemonic bankers and corrupt politicians, or religious zealots sounds decent too.

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