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Posted by Moral Hazard on Oct-08-2008 19:32:

quote:
Originally posted by Jer
No Wi-Fi?

Well fuck their shit.

No wi-fi on the verison version, it looks like later releases will have it.

Posted by E2EK1EL on Oct-08-2008 19:37:

If Garmin runs on the Storm w/o any problems, I'll be getting one of these units also. Only if the Storm really runs that smooth & easy, I hope it does!

Everyone from Vodafone's art dept is getting fired!

http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/08/vodafones-blackberry-storm-art-department-all-soon-to-be-fired/

Posted by VERTiG0 on Oct-08-2008 21:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Cosmic Fur
I was at a Telus Career Info session, and one tool asked the same question: "why doesn't Telus upgrade to GSM?" The rep's answer went something like this: "Our main priority is to service the needs of our customers. Switching our network would cost us an immense amount of money and capital, with only marginal gains in user base. Hence it's not worth it. Besides, next-generation networks are already under development that are going to blur the lines between GSM and CDMA anyway. It makes more sense for us to wait and switch to the next generation network than to jump the ship to GSM and then have to upgrade again later."

Yeah, 4G LTE and shit like that.

Just give me friggin 2100MHz UMTS so I can use 3.5G on my N82

Posted by spiderpig on Oct-08-2008 22:05:

Posted by E2EK1EL on Oct-08-2008 23:15:

There's no battle here at all, the winner will be the Storm for sure and it will be a Global landslide. Can�t really compare these units, they both have different target markets.

1.The BlackBerry Storm is made for business and if you�re in the business field and you don�t have BlackBerry, good luck with your day.

2.The iPhone is made for fun and entertainment, the games made for this unit is like a PSP + Wii and other eye flashy candy to razlle dazzle ppl. Imagine typing a serious e.mail to a client and your really out of time to submit it, don�t even bother

Posted by TranceGrooves on Oct-09-2008 00:58:

quote:
Originally posted by E2EK1EL
There's no battle here at all, the winner will be the Storm for sure and it will be a Global landslide. Can�t really compare these units, they both have different target markets.

1.The BlackBerry Storm is made for business and if you�re in the business field and you don�t have BlackBerry, good luck with your day.

My day goes very well without one Mr Tang :d

i have one of these;

Nokia E61i

General 2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network UMTS 2100

Size Dimensions 117 x 70 x 13.9 mm, 97 cc
Weight 150 g

Display Type TFT, 16M colors
Size 320 x 240 pixels, 2.8 inches

- QWERTY keyboard
- Five-way scroll key

Ringtones Type Polyphonic, Monophonic, MP3, True Tones
Customization Download

Vibration Yes
Memory Phonebook Practically unlimited entries and fields, Photocall
Call records Detailed, max 30 days
Card slot microSD (TransFlash), up to 2GB, hotswap, buy memory
- 60 MB shared memory
- 64 MB SDRAM memory
- ARM 9 220 MHz processor

Data GPRS Yes
HSCSD Yes
EDGE Class 10, 236.8 kbps
3G Yes, 384 kbps
WLAN Wi-Fi 802.11b/g
Bluetooth Yes, v1.2
Infrared port Yes
USB Yes, v2.0 Pop-Port
Features OS Symbian OS 9.1, Series 60 v3.0 UI
Messaging SMS, MMS, Email, Instant Messaging
Browser WAP 2.0/xHTML, HTML
Games Java downloadable

Colors Silver, Mocca

Camera 2 MP, 1600x1200 pixels, video(CIF)
- Java MIDP 2.0
- MP3/AAC/MPEG4 player
- Office applications
- Blackberry connectivity
- Push to talk
- Voice command/dial
- PIM including calendar, to-do list and printing
- Integrated handsfree

Battery Standard battery, Li-Po 1500 mAh (BP-4L)
Stand-by Up to 400 h
Talk time Up to 9 h

PTA (Telecom governing body in Pakistan) has announced the issuance of 3G lisence to telecome companies in Pakistan so as soon as my carieer comes on board with 3G i will upgrade to E 71 which is the newer version of this puppy. One might say its bulky and hard to carry but for that i have this;

Pouch with belt clip

Posted by VERTiG0 on Oct-09-2008 01:27:

Yes Tyler, get the E71!

Having played with one for a while I can say that if I didn't really love the 5mp camera/Xenon flash in my N82, I'd own an E71 for sure.

Posted by High on PSI on Oct-09-2008 02:03:

quote:
Originally posted by chinamon
good answer. lets just wait and see if what he said was true.

it is true... both rogers and telus are planning projects to move to the new technology already - some time away though.

Posted by dEsidEL on Oct-09-2008 02:14:

so apparently the (typically cooler) European version which operates on Vodafone will be GSM - i.e. 9500

http://www.gsmarena.com/blackberry_...al-news-616.php

Posted by exstasie on Oct-09-2008 02:15:

quote:
Originally posted by High on PSI
it is true... both rogers and telus are planning projects to move to the new technology already - some time away though.

what about the talks of Telus & Bell moving to GSM?

There was some intense talks during the summer of that happening sometime soon...

Posted by E2EK1EL on Oct-09-2008 02:31:

quote:
Originally posted by TranceGrooves
My day goes very well without one Mr Tang :d

I'm down with Nokia and Samsung (w/o WM)

Posted by monishb on Oct-09-2008 02:54:

quote:
Originally posted by Cosmic Fur
I was at a Telus Career Info session, and one tool asked the same question: "why doesn't Telus upgrade to GSM?" The rep's answer went something like this: "Our main priority is to service the needs of our customers. Switching our network would cost us an immense amount of money and capital, with only marginal gains in user base. Hence it's not worth it. Besides, next-generation networks are already under development that are going to blur the lines between GSM and CDMA anyway. It makes more sense for us to wait and switch to the next generation network than to jump the ship to GSM and then have to upgrade again later."

i work for telus, and i can tell you that is true since every single major operator out there will be migrating to 4G/LTE in the next 3-5 years GSM will be grandfathered technology

Posted by monishb on Oct-09-2008 02:58:

quote:
Originally posted by exstasie
what about the talks of Telus & Bell moving to GSM?

There was some intense talks during the summer of that happening sometime soon...

they WILL NOT SWITCH TO GSM!

what they will do is switch to 4G/LTE , because it would not make buisness sense for them to invest in 2/3G infrastructure when 4G is around the corner in 2 years time

Posted by Porky on Oct-09-2008 04:01:

quote:
Originally posted by FunkyCrew
Telus > Rogers, hands down

i have both a Telus personal phone and a Rogers work blackberry.

my Telus phone is rock solid with no dropped calls EVER.

my Rogers BB flakes out at least 20% of it's calls.

i also manage 300 Rogers Blackberries at work (BES admin) and the users always complain about Roger's crappy connection.

Canada's Most Reliable Network? Roger's should be shot for their false advertising.

Posted by Porky on Oct-09-2008 04:04:

quote:
Originally posted by monishb
i work for telus,

i still owe you a beer

Posted by TranceGrooves on Oct-09-2008 06:06:

quote:
Originally posted by monishb
they WILL NOT SWITCH TO GSM!

what they will do is switch to 4G/LTE , because it would not make buisness sense for them to invest in 2/3G infrastructure when 4G is around the corner in 2 years time

It sort of makes sense but then at same time it doesn't make any sense. Does that make sense?

What i am trying to say is that techonlogy changes rapidly. There is no debate on that point. Why not change with technology? I mean when 4G comes i am sure some whizkid somewhere in the world will have something much better in the works which will be introduced 2 years after 4G. This cycle will continue and i beleive only those will survive that can keep up with the rapid changes.

Posted by spiderpig on Oct-10-2008 14:30:

Telus announces 4G.

http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/...8/10/c5165.html

Posted by monishb on Oct-10-2008 14:35:

quote:
Originally posted by TranceGrooves
It sort of makes sense but then at same time it doesn't make any sense. Does that make sense?

What i am trying to say is that techonlogy changes rapidly. There is no debate on that point. Why not change with technology? I mean when 4G comes i am sure some whizkid somewhere in the world will have something much better in the works which will be introduced 2 years after 4G. This cycle will continue and i beleive only those will survive that can keep up with the rapid changes.

the cost of upgrading to 2G/3G GSM technology will cost almost the same or double, and today they made any annoucement that they will migrate to 4G by 2010 and the rest of the world like major GSM carriers will switch to 4G/LTE. They havent said they wont change at all. But change doesnt happen in one day?! that is the reality.

i understand what your saying but with change comes a cost factor, and that is to give you and example initially even rogers didnt buy into GSM it took them years to adapt it. They were lucky they won the FIDO auction also, so it worked in their favor perfect timing and execution. But now the time has come for change for CDMA carriers to change so embrace it with open arms

Posted by monishb on Oct-10-2008 14:37:

quote:
Originally posted by spiderpig
Telus announces 4G.

http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/...8/10/c5165.html

thank you pointless to switch technology to GSM within a year all major carrier will be 4G/LTE and all of you GSM fanboys/girls will come running and changing your handsets to 4G.

Posted by exstasie on Oct-10-2008 14:46:

There's been a lot more rumors floating around that Microsoft is pursing to buy RIM.

Apparently there is a standing offer to buy them at $50/share. Since the decline of their stock by over 50% since June...this seems like it is possible, though highly unlikely.

Posted by Cosmic Fur on Oct-10-2008 14:50:

has to be a rumour. There's no way MS would try to buy out a competitor to their Win Mobile platform, especially considering the competitor is as large as RIM. Frankly, I don't think MS has enough money to buy em.

Posted by exstasie on Oct-10-2008 14:55:

Posted by Moral Hazard on Oct-10-2008 15:21:

quote:
Originally posted by exstasie
There's been a lot more rumors floating around that Microsoft is pursing to buy RIM.

Apparently there is a standing offer to buy them at $50/share. Since the decline of their stock by over 50% since June...this seems like it is possible, though highly unlikely.

HP and IBM have been rumored to be suitors as well.

Posted by Moral Hazard on Oct-10-2008 15:34:

quote:
Originally posted by Cosmic Fur
has to be a rumour. There's no way MS would try to buy out a competitor to their Win Mobile platform, especially considering the competitor is as large as RIM. Frankly, I don't think MS has enough money to buy em.

I disagree... MS has a long history of buying out competitors. If they were to buy out RIM they would acquire the market leader in smart phone handsets and kill their principle competition to Win Mobile. This would give them control over the manufacture of nearly 30% of smart phones in circulation and an equal increase to Win Mobile's market share by having Blackberry users switch over. Finally, RIM shares are undervalued and undercapitalized right now so they are an attractive target.

Posted by Cosmic Fur on Oct-10-2008 15:51:

You don't acquire a 26 billion company just so Win Mobile has less competition. It's a gigantic waste of money imo.

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