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Originally posted by Domesticated Sorry for the attack John - it was more in jest than anything, as I own plenty of your tracks and have paid to see you DJ on several occasions, as you are someone I respect greatly. I'm glad my criticism drew you out of the woodwork, because I've been wondering about your reasoning behind compression/mastering for quite a while. While I fully understand and appreciate your explanation, it doesn't make home listening any less frustrating when one listens to a very clean, minimal Israeli-style production, such as Ace Ventura or Zen Mechanics, and can hear every small detail perfectly, then immediately after listens to a production such as yours, where the depth of sound and melody is maximal, and even though you're fully aware that there are fantastic elements in there, they can get drowned out at times and you feel like you're missing out on something. In regards to making music "for clubs and festivals", rather than the radio, again I can appreciate and respect that, but there are quite a few producers who never aimed to be played on radio, yet manage to achieve a sound that's clear as a bell on both tinny home systems and booming club rigs, even with an abundance of layers. I think Simon Posford is a good example of this. He uses an incredible amount of layers in his work yet still manages to maintain a crisp sound. Finally, I just want to re-iterate the fact that this is not a personal attack or harsh critisicm of your work. I'm fully aware that I could never achieve what you have, musically or technically, and that it's lofty to make such criticisms without your own ability to back it up. I do enjoy your music greatly, otherwise I wouldn't buy it - all I'm expressing is a frustration that such great music could be made even greater (personal preference, I know), yet there is a conscious effort not to do this.

Hey no offense taken, don't worry. It's impossible to keep everyone happy and criticism is something an artist gets used too
It's also got me back on this forum
I know what you mean and it's something I've listened too and addressed with my material (due for release in 2009). I always make music for the 'gaps' in my set when I can't find from others, and it's meant for the dancefloor for me me personally...that eventually get released. I have also been touring like crazy the past few years, so never get the time to do a second CD/Radio mixdown. i work alone in the studio, so time is very precious. I have no idea how someone like Armin finds time to work in the studio, he works so hard with weekly radio show etc?!

As we chat here, we're worked hard on my time management and allocated much time for my studio work. So expect my artist album next year (3 years late!) and you'll hear some great stuff on there...no mud!

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Originally posted by John 00 Fleming As we chat here, we're worked hard on my time management and allocated much time for my studio work. So expect my artist album next year (3 years late!) and you'll hear some great stuff on there...no mud!

Fantastic!

Really enjoyed the 0.0db artist album (Worlds Of Space!), as well as your last three visits to Melbourne for gigs (Gatecrasher, Kryal Castle, Transmission). Was very disappointed when I heard you had pulled out of Earthcore.

Keep up the good work.

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Originally posted by Neo95gt Zocalo > your life

You really must be a pathetic little soul to invest so much energy and vitriolic anger into your proclamations of disgust that people on this forum don't like the same fluff trance you do.

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Originally posted by Neo95gt Zocalo > your life

Zocalo = Airwave

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J You really must be a pathetic little soul to invest so much energy and vitriolic anger into your proclamations of disgust that people on this forum don't like the same fluff trance you do.

No more than the losers that post anger towards tiesto, armin, etc. (aka you) I don't even really like fluff trance. Thanks for playing, go to bed.

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery Zocalo = Airwave

And Airwave = Breathing > *

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Originally posted by Ian Why? Because we haven't started calling each other names & pulling each others hair yet ?

+1. People are actually having civilized discussion for once.

edit: for the most part

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery Zocalo = Airwave

My god, that never clicked with me until now lol

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Originally posted by John 00 Fleming Hey no offense taken, don't worry. It's impossible to keep everyone happy and criticism is something an artist gets used too It's also got me back on this forum I know what you mean and it's something I've listened too and addressed with my material (due for release in 2009). I always make music for the 'gaps' in my set when I can't find from others, and it's meant for the dancefloor for me me personally...that eventually get released. I have also been touring like crazy the past few years, so never get the time to do a second CD/Radio mixdown. i work alone in the studio, so time is very precious. I have no idea how someone like Armin finds time to work in the studio, he works so hard with weekly radio show etc?! As we chat here, we're worked hard on my time management and allocated much time for my studio work. So expect my artist album next year (3 years late!) and you'll hear some great stuff on there...no mud!

album in 2009? when can we expect the announcement that is actually coming out in 2014??

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i work alone in the studio, so time is very precious.

except when you are working with airwave

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Originally posted by Neo95gt No more than the losers that post anger towards tiesto, armin, etc. (aka you) I don't even really like fluff trance.

Yes you do. And I wasn't displaying anger, I was displaying my opinion. Clearly you're so hopelessly insecure you must percieve that as an attack on yourself and your tastes, an attack which must be met with misguided force. And that's because you're an idiot.

Here's a life lesson: people are going to disagree with you and they're going to be perfectly valid in doing so. Accept it and get the fuck over it.

And thanks for the "AKA you". I would never have figured out who you were aiming that comment at without that helpful guide.

I must say, in terms of keeping clarity between the frequency ranges, even with loads happening at the same time, Flutlicht were brilliant!

Everything was so well defined that there was never any muddiness

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Yes you do. And I wasn't displaying anger, I was displaying my opinion. Clearly you're so hopelessly insecure you must percieve that as an attack on yourself and your tastes, an attack which must be met with misguided force. And that's because you're an idiot. Here's a life lesson: people are going to disagree with you and they're going to be perfectly valid in doing so. Accept it and get the fuck over it. And thanks for the "AKA you". I would never have figured out who you were aiming that comment at without that helpful guide.

Bro, you're nuts. All I said was zocalo > * you psycho :ugh:

Yeah, I'll take a life lesson from a kid that can't even drink legally. go to bed.

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Originally posted by Neo95gt Bro, you're nuts. All I said was zocalo > * you psycho :ugh: Yeah, I'll take a life lesson from a kid that can't even drink legally. go to bed.

um, uk age of consent is 18. He's perfectly legal to do anything.

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Originally posted by kr00t0n I must say, in terms of keeping clarity between the frequency ranges, even with loads happening at the same time, Flutlicht were brilliant! Everything was so well defined that there was never any muddiness

what happened to them? it's about time we got another dose of greek mythology in the form of trance.

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Originally posted by Neo95gt Bro, you're nuts. All I said was zocalo > * you psycho :ugh:

All you said in this thread. I saw you in the TA Top 250 DJs thread throwing your toys out of the pram and calling people ******s, elitists and kids because they didn't agree with your fluff trance Armin love.

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Yeah, I'll take a life lesson from a kid that can't even drink legally. go to bed.

Would you like fries with that epic fail?

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J All you said in this thread. I saw you in the TA Top 250 DJs thread throwing your toys out of the pram and calling people ******s, elitists and kids because they didn't agree with your fluff trance Armin love. Would you like fries with that epic fail?

haha aw my posts are bothering you so much that you stalk me. cute. I may like Armin, but I also like techno and house.....did I just blow your mind?


Not in the states, and that's all that matters Pipecleaner Arms McGee.

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Originally posted by Neo95gt haha aw my posts are bothering you so much that you stalk me. cute. I may like Armin, but I also like techno and house.....did I just blow your mind?

It's hard not to remember such an obnoxious ****, especially when he starts acting the same towards you. And well done you for liking house and techno. You're the very epitome of eclecticism. Although nobody ever claimed you only liked fluff trance. You could listen to Philip Glass for all I cared and you'd still be a whining Armin fanboy in these threads.

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Not in the states, and that's all that matters Pipecleaner Arms McGee.

I've never seen pipe cleaner with stretch marks before. Swing and a miss. You've got one more strike to find an accurate ad hominem.

Heh, I only just noticed System-J's age. I thought he was like 25 years old for some reason.

wow thread.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J It's hard not to remember such an obnoxious ****, especially when he starts acting the same towards you. And well done you for liking house and techno. You're the very epitome of eclecticism. Although nobody ever claimed you only liked fluff trance. You could listen to Philip Glass for all I cared and you'd still be a whining Armin fanboy in these threads. I've never seen pipe cleaner with stretch marks before. Swing and a miss. You've got one more strike to find an accurate ad hominem.

Oh so you're fat, my bad bro. Never once did I ever even say I liked Armin aside from my last post. Just cracking on the DJmag crybabies and the trance haters because I think it's retarded. The best part is you think your negative posts are more constructive than my anti negative posts.

p.s. J00f is the man

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Originally posted by Neo95gt Oh so you're fat, my bad bro.

5'11", 165lbs. Strike three, you're out. Thanks for playing.

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Never once did I ever even say I liked Armin aside from my last post.

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...712#post9264712

Oh this does not end well for you.

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The best part is you think your negative posts are more constructive than my anti negative posts.

Wrong. I don't give a shit about how "constructive" my posts are relative to yours, although I think it's laughable you think posts such as this:

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Originally posted by Neo95gt The Music Discussion forum is an absolute joke. It's nothing but elitists, haters and self proclaimed experts who are actually a bunch of 18 year olders. The rest, bullied out. The loudest people on this forum are the trance haters. However they are obviously outnumbered by the overall TA population. It's a shame because that forum used to be pretty good, well known DJs have even posted about this. Poor moderation.

...are anything other than negative. What I give a shit about is being able to post in a thread without someone with a perpetual hard-on for Dutch mega-jocks crying down my ear because I don't coincide with their musical tastes. Militant little fanboys like you are the reason the DJ Mag poll and trance as a whole are seen as a fucking joke these days. And invoking whether or not I drink/work out/other guido shit is not going to convince anyone that you're anything other than a dickhead.

Now I reckon I owe Domesticated an apology for having a shit-slinging contest for a couple of pages. Hopefully he remembers that it isn't par for my course.

So are we gonna make out or what?

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Originally posted by noikeee Heh, I only just noticed System-J's age. I thought he was like 25 years old for some reason.

Probably because his posts are intelligent and well-reasoned.

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Originally posted by Neo95gt So are we gonna make out or what?

Another epic fails at making teh funnies after failings insultionz.

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Originally posted by ToF Probably because his posts are intelligent and well-reasoned. Another epic fails at making teh funnies after failings insultionz.

No it's useless to argue with him. Every post oozes with contradiction. He's just a minimal/tech fanboy, no mo no less.

I wouldn't call System-J a minimal / tech fanboy at all... It's also useless to argue with him in your eyes because he's outarguing you at every turn.

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