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Originally posted by zokissima What are you building the computer for? High-end gaming rig, or multimedia centre. I was not aware that all modern cards came with HDMI. Most of the high end ones last time I checked, did not, but rather only had two DVI ports, and rely on a DVI to HDMI dongle. Also, yeah, forget the AGP architecture. You really want to start from the core here, with a new MOBO, video card, and CPU. Do you want to keep your current case? It may be easier for you to just get a new case. If you decide that you want to keep this case, you will have to first drain all the coolant in your system. Even then, you'll have some spillage probably, but no big deal if you're careful. I doubt you will be able to use the liquid cooling system, as it will probably not be compatible with a new motherboard and cpu. Like I said, IMO it is a better option to keep your current PC for whatever multimedia etc you use it for, and build a new tower from the money you have.

I kinda want both. I just ordered a Vudu box to use on the monitor, though, so my multimedia use will probably be going down, at least on the PC side. I mainly want it for occasional music & gaming. I'll probably spend more time using Firefox than COD or Ableton, to be realistic, but when I want to, I want it to work well, and with HD everything, I feel like I could definitely use some extra power, for whatever reason.

I was joking about AGP.

I like the case, and it seems like a terrible waste to just toss something with that build quality, but I don't know how feasible/worthwhile it is to keep it.

Here's what I've got right now:

Abit AV8 motherboard
AMD Athlon 64 3500+
Rocketfish 700-Watt ATX CPU Power Supply
2gb dual channel + 1 gb of some upgraded corsair ram (can't remember which, but very low latency)
Nvidia Geforce 7600 GS AGP
2x NEC ND-3520A 16X Dual Layer DVD+-RW
150gb Western Digital Raptor-X
250gb Hitachi HDS72252 5VLAT80
PNY PCI eSata card
320gb WD Mybook Home Edition
500gb WD Mybook Studio
Logitech G15 keyboard
Logitech MX Revolution
Samsung T260HD monitor
MOTU Ultralite (I took out the creative card that was in there before)
Pioneer Elite A35R Integrated Amp
Definitive Technology StudioMonitor 450 speakers

so yeah.

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Originally posted by Zild Total Price $499 Total Price $1,422

how about somewhere in between?

oh, and a bluetooth adapter & jawbone for a headset.

this is why I want to upgrade the actual pc. I have too much invested in peripherals for what is now an outdated tower.

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Originally posted by inconspicuous how about somewhere in between?

That's why I posted both so you can go somewhere in the middle.

I'd look at the $1500 one but get one graphics card instead of two, and get a dual core instead of a quad. Don't buy that $140 cooler that is in the $1500 build, don't buy that $130 PSU since you already have one, get one 500gb HD instead of two, etc...

The only card worth getting right now IMO is the radeon 4850 and if you want better graphics (higher than 2560x1600 like on a 30" monitor) get two radeon 4850s and run them in crossfire.

And you don't need a quad so a decent dual core like the E8400 will work great.

Sad thing about your Alienware is that it uses socket 939. Those chips aren't available on the market as they've been phased out. So you can upgrade to the latest video card but you will be hitting a bottle neck with your CPU.

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Originally posted by inconspicuous oh, and a bluetooth adapter & jawbone for a headset. this is why I want to upgrade the actual pc. I have too much invested in peripherals for what is now an outdated tower.

Hey you're the Best Buy guy I can't help you with peripherals, but I'm sure you can pickup a bluetooth adapter on the cheap.

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Originally posted by inconspicuous well, do any have 3 or 4 outputs (even if it's just interoperable hdmi & other stuff) also, I have no problem physically putting the hardware together. it's the installation/setup nonsense I suck at. do people do that freelance?

Once you physically put the hardware together all you do is fire it up and stick in the Windows CD. It practically installs itself. Once you are up and running just make sure to install the drivers that came with your hardware and check the manufacturer's website for the latest versions.

Or have your buddies at best buy help you.

Fledz, I've been using Ableton quite some time an old single core athlon, and I never run into issues with cpu power, but yeah quads aren't that much more expensive.

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Originally posted by Zild Once you physically put the hardware together all you do is fire it up and stick in the Windows CD. It practically installs itself. Once you are up and running just make sure to install the drivers that came with your hardware and check the manufacturer's website for the latest versions. Or have your buddies at best buy help you.

Note also that windows xp before sp1 (the windows cd may have sp1/2/3 allready on it however) does not recognise hdd above 128 gigs.

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Originally posted by Zild That's why I posted both so you can go somewhere in the middle. I'd look at the $1500 one but get one graphics card instead of two, and get a dual core instead of a quad. Don't buy that $140 cooler that is in the $1500 build, don't buy that $130 PSU since you already have one, get one 500gb HD instead of two, etc... The only card worth getting right now IMO is the radeon 4850 and if you want better graphics (higher than 2560x1600 like on a 30" monitor) get two radeon 4850s and run them in crossfire. And you don't need a quad so a decent dual core like the E8400 will work great. Sad thing about your Alienware is that it uses socket 939. Those chips aren't available on the market as they've been phased out. So you can upgrade to the latest video card but you will be hitting a bottle neck with your CPU.

If he's going to use Ableton, the Quad Core could come in quite handy and will future proof his system.

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Originally posted by Zild Hey you're the Best Buy guy I can't help you with peripherals, but I'm sure you can pickup a bluetooth adapter on the cheap.

no, I already have it. And yes, it was very cheap.

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Originally posted by Zild Once you are up and running just make sure to install the drivers that came with your hardware and check the manufacturer's website for the latest versions.

that is where I screw everything up.

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Originally posted by inconspicuous that is where I screw everything up.

Bribe one of the tech guys to help you.

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