anyone pay attention to the votes received by truther candidates? fucking LOL their movement sure is strong. pity they can't get more than 2% of the vote.
Posted by {b.s.e.} on Nov-06-2008 22:35:
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Originally posted by Krypton
WTF are you talking about? He denied it initially, but then, subsequently admitted everything. I know you'll just blow over this post...
Rrright.
Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Nov-06-2008 22:37:
Anyone that thinks osama hasn't claimed responsibility for his role in the attacks is a disingenuous moron, or an outright liar.
Posted by Krypton on Nov-06-2008 22:43:
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Originally posted by {b.s.e.}
Rrright.
More wild speculation passed off as truth. Can that be used to convict ANYONE of treason? So now, truthers are being assassinated? Wow, how far will the conspiracy go? PKC, do you know?
Posted by {b.s.e.} on Nov-06-2008 22:45:
If he was in on it, the Bush administration was there ensuring stability of plan.
Posted by {b.s.e.} on Nov-06-2008 22:46:
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Originally posted by Krypton
More wild speculation passed off as truth. Can that be used to convict ANYONE of treason? So now, truthers are being assassinated? Wow, how far will the conspiracy go? PKC, do you know?
You're such a twit. Bill Cooper was a ex-naval intelligence officer, with some of the most classifed knowledge on the planet.
Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Nov-06-2008 22:47:
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Originally posted by {b.s.e.}
If he was in on it, the Bush administration was there ensuring stability of plan.
prove it. oh that's right, you can't Posted by {b.s.e.} on Nov-06-2008 23:23:
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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
Anyone that thinks osama hasn't claimed responsibility for his role in the attacks is a disingenuous moron, or an outright liar.
Nice edit, that is to say, way to rewrite your entire statement.
Alternatively, one could say the same about the complicity of the Bush administration and anyone who continues to support their lies is a laughable tool.
Posted by Krypton on Nov-06-2008 23:40:
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Originally posted by {b.s.e.}
If he was in on it, the Bush administration was there ensuring stability of plan.
Prove it.
Posted by Krypton on Nov-06-2008 23:41:
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Originally posted by {b.s.e.}
You're such a twit. Bill Cooper was a ex-naval intelligence officer, with some of the most classifed knowledge on the planet.
Appeal to authority fallacy.
Once again, how is this evidence? Against whom? The New World Order? Who is the New World Order? You people don't even know who your up against!Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Nov-06-2008 23:41:
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Originally posted by {b.s.e.}
Alternatively, one could say the same about the complicity of the Bush administration and anyone who continues to support their lies is a laughable tool.
you could certainly say that, but you'd be wrong. its amazing what opinions people will desperately cling to despite the lack of evidence with which to support that opinion.
where's the evidence? still looking? Posted by {b.s.e.} on Nov-07-2008 01:21:
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Originally posted by Krypton
Appeal to authority fallacy.
lol, horseshit.I wasn't validating myself through BC, I was defending the man's honour after you ridiculed the cause he dedicated his life to. Get over yourself. Naturally, if I had used an 'unprofessional' statement, it would have received incredulous scrutiny.
You obviously don't find anything suspicious in the scene I've laid out for you: about a man predicting a terrorist attack with OBL nearly 5 months prior to the attack? And that very man was dead within two months of the attack? You see why I don't really care what you blokes have to say; unfortunately I feel compelled to respond yet again.
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Once again, how is this evidence? Against whom? The New World Order? Who is the New World Order? You people don't even know who your up against!
I'm sorry to bring up these 'coincidences', but George Bush announced a NWO on 9/11/91, doesn't that strike you as odd? This has been something that has been addressed by both politicians (including JFK and other assassinated men), researchers and the conspirators themselves. Your refusal to accept anything more than the government shillings is a profound roadblock and I believe we should just break ties on this subject.
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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
you could certainly say that, but you'd be wrong. its amazing what opinions people will desperately cling to despite the lack of evidence with which to support that opinion.
Well, as much as you'd like to dream, you're wrong. lol, evidence eh?
There are quite a few smoking guns, some a bit harder to 'prove' per se, but with an critical mind, which you sorely lack, you can find information that doesn't only differ from the government's offical bullshit, but contradicts it entirely.
The Commission's systematic timeline alteration and omission of incriminating evidence suggests that its mission was damage control, a deliberate cover-up of government complicity in the crime.
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where's the evidence? still looking?
I have a fistful of government lies I'd love to shove down your throat. Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Nov-07-2008 01:23:
If there's so much 'smoking gun' evidence, why have you been unable to post any here?
Posted by Krypton on Nov-07-2008 02:16:
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Originally posted by {b.s.e.}
lol, horseshit.I wasn't validating myself through BC, I was defending the man's honour after you ridiculed the cause he dedicated his life to. Get over yourself. Naturally, if I had used an 'unprofessional' statement, it would have received incredulous scrutiny.
Once again we come back to your fundamental problem. You have no case. This guy proves nothing. His death proves nothing. You have no case. Let alone a suspect.
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You obviously don't find anything suspicious in the scene I've laid out for you: about a man predicting a terrorist attack with OBL nearly 5 months prior to the attack? And that very man was dead within two months of the attack? You see why I don't really care what you blokes have to say; unfortunately I feel compelled to respond yet again.
It's not that I find anything suspicious or not suspicious. His prediction proves nothing. His death proves nothing. But you and your friends are all too willing to jump to conclusions, it just has to be an assassination of the guy! By the NWO! You do care what we say otherwise you wouldn't be responding.
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I'm sorry to bring up these 'coincidences', but George Bush announced a NWO on 9/11/91, doesn't that strike you as odd? This has been something that has been addressed by both politicians (including JFK and other assassinated men), researchers and the conspirators themselves. Your refusal to accept anything more than the government shillings is a profound roadblock and I believe we should just break ties on this subject.
George Bush was obviously referring to the collapse of the Soviet Union and the end of the Cold War. By all means, THERE WAS A NEW WORLD ORDER. It was 1991 for fuck's sake.. I accept that which is supported by the evidence. Of which you haven't provided a single piece of evidence. And if you could have, in all this time since 9/11, someone should have be convicted of treason. That profound failure of your conspiracy world view is the end of it. Quite literally. You can argue with us for the next decade. If your movement is unable to even construct a case against anyone, your movement is already dead.
Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Nov-07-2008 02:17:
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Originally posted by {b.s.e.}
I'm sorry to bring up these 'coincidences', but George Bush announced a NWO on 9/11/91, doesn't that strike you as odd?
you really are an idiot.
Posted by Trancer-X on Nov-07-2008 03:50:
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Originally posted by {b.s.e.}
Nice edit, that is to say, way to rewrite your entire statement.
Alternatively, one could say the same about the complicity of the Bush administration and anyone who continues to support their lies is a laughable tool.
You should know by now that information gleaned from whistleblowers and other knowledgeable insiders don't fit into the perception managers plans here and thus that info won't ever be acknowledged by them.
It's all too revealing so of course they could never admit to it just like they can't admit to the hundreds or thousands of omissions, distortions, and/or factual manipulations that the "official report" is based on.
Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Nov-07-2008 04:40:
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Originally posted by ********
Videos can be staged, and the CIA is known to provide misinformation. There is no way to verify the truthfulness of the videos. If the CIA wanted to stage evidence they could, and would. These are the same people who accept torture as a method of obtaining information. Their willingness to provide honest information in the name of justice alone is not guarenteed. It is an agenda, and they will make whatever they don't have to fill the gaps. Bear in mind it was Tennet that suggested Osama did it.
Yeah, the CIA made up videos of all the various members of al qaida. They're not real people at all.
Get a fucking grip you idiot.
Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Nov-07-2008 04:47:
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Originally posted by ********
hohum.
You have no idea the state of fxs and costuming today. The CIA could impersonate you if they needed to.
I have no doubt. But the fact is that they havent, and you have no evidence that they impersonated osama and the rest of his buddies either. So, either bring the evidence or shut the fuck up.
Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Nov-07-2008 04:50:
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Originally posted by ********
Is it wrong for me to say that you are sheep. Wake up.. if it isn't prooveable it ain't. That simple.
10 characteristics of conspiracy theorists
A useful guide by Donna Ferentes
1. Arrogance. They are always fact-seekers, questioners, people who are trying to discover the truth: sceptics are always "sheep", patsies for Messrs Bush and Blair etc.
Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Nov-07-2008 04:59:
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Originally posted by ********
Dude, fact is if you accept information with no proof, you are a sheep.
yeah, says the guy that alludes to fictitious fake movies from the CIA.
Posted by Krypton on Nov-07-2008 05:48:
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Originally posted by ********
Dude, fact is if you accept information with no proof, you are a sheep.
Which is exactly what you n your buddies are doing. Making these wild assertions without even a smidgen of evidence. So the CIA made fake videos huh? Prove it.
Posted by Trancer-X on Nov-07-2008 06:22:
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Originally posted by ********
hohum.
You have no idea the state of fxs and costuming today. The CIA could impersonate you if they needed to.
Also if I know how to do it, chances are they know how to do it. It is that simple.
I do not doubt the CIA's intelligence capacity.
I have no doubt they have the resources to do so.
Saddam had how many body doubles? I wouldn't put it past the CIA to have Osama body doubles in order to spread disinfo.
On a similar note, it's kind of funny how the Osama purported in those grainy "confession" videos writes with a different hand than the real one did.
Posted by dcougar99 on Nov-07-2008 13:40:
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Originally posted by Trancer-X
Saddam had how many body doubles? I wouldn't put it past the CIA to have Osama body doubles in order to spread disinfo.
On a similar note, it's kind of funny how the Osama purported in those grainy "confession" videos writes with a different hand than the real one did.
just read the govs webpage on osama... apparently he is now ambidextrous!!! case closed! its 100% real!!!
Posted by {b.s.e.} on Nov-07-2008 16:11:
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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
you really are an idiot.
Nah, you fucker, I'm quite smart. Wastelin vs. the World! Just the way you like it, eh, bud?
It's amazing the sort of verbal abuse one has to endure here, not that a bitch like yourself could ever phase me. However, we digress, do we not?
He's not just referring to the fall of the S.E., the whole world's a stage, and it's pointless to go beyond this point with you in coversation.
Posted by Krypton on Nov-07-2008 16:25:
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Originally posted by {b.s.e.}
He's not just referring to the fall of the S.E., the whole world's a stage, and it's pointless to go beyond this point with you in coversation.
Of course, because I dare question the holy church of conspiracy, as a heretic. Why does EVERYTHING have to be a freakin conspiracy? Again, it's obvious, Bush was talking about the a new world order following that of the bi-polar Cold War world order. The law of the jungle is obvious reference for conflict resolution through peaceful means through the UN. 2003 is case in point, to what happens when UN approval is not involved. We unilaterally invade other countries.
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their movement sure is strong. pity they can't get more than 2% of the vote.
