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Originally posted by PVDfan07 From what you've posted on this site, I know enough.

ok.

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Originally posted by Ted Promo Actually, I haven't seen one instance in this thread where anyone has "made" you write why you support Chambliss (whom I will be voting for as well because Martin is a ninny). All Sam has done is post random smilies and told you to chill the fuck out, you've just taken it upon yourself to act like a tool. Just sayin'.

Here's what he said, "Zach, put some substance behind your views before you get flamed and complain about us "hating" again." All I had done was voiced my support of Chambliss.
I don't think I've acted like a tool. Obviously Sam thinks I haven't come across very well. And this goes back to the thread about the presidency too. Sam told me many times to explain my views. Of course he can't make me, but my point is, can I not believe what I believe with out a huge explanation? Just like you say you support Chambliss because Martin is a ninny, I'm surprised he hasn't asked you to explain more.
Anyways, I know politics is a passionate subject and especially in this election it has really divided us. I don't want to make any enemies here. I know some of you were on fairly friendly terms with me and I hope I'm not going to be the forum tool now. There are much better candidates for that, but I won't name names. LOL
Enydo, maybe my remarks were unnecessary. I can't judge you by a few comments on a forum.

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Originally posted by PVDfan07 Jim Martin is a joke. The only thing he does is try to connect Saxby to the so called "Bush economic plan." Sad people buy into that crap.

You did more than "show...your support for Chambliss". If I would've said the same thing about Chambliss, wouldn't you want me to give you my reasoning? I mean.. afterall, this is a forum where people post information.

All I did was advise you back your statements up before people start flaming you, and then you get defensive without even an attack aimed at you.

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Originally posted by iammesol You did more than "show...your support for Chambliss". If I would've said the same thing about Chambliss, wouldn't you want me to give you my reasoning? I mean.. afterall, this is a forum where people post information. All I did was advise you back your statements up before people start flaming you, and then you get defensive without even an attack aimed at you.

Are you talking about the fact that I stated he got more votes? If you are, I thought that was just common knowledge to anyone who watched the news. Here's a link to the vote totals though if it makes you feel better. Saxby got more than 100,000 votes more than Martin. He's going to need to find a lot of people willing to change their minds or come out to vote.
http://www.sos.georgia.gov/election...08_1104/003.htm

As far as what I mentioned about how all Martin does is attack Saxby for supporting "George Bush economics," I find it a sad attempt to try to link him to Bush, who is unfortunately unpopular. Any sane person would realize that Bush isn't the only one who makes things happen. I'm sure it's flattering to him for people to give him so much power, but people keep forgetting Congress plays a part too. Instead of laying out what he believes in in his commercials, that's what he keeps referring to. Here's a link to one of those attack ads. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRA1...feature=related
There's at least 2 or 3 more where he uses that phrase also.
That's why I made that statement. So, now I've explained my first post on the subject.

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Originally posted by PVDfan07 Are you talking about the fact that I stated he got more votes? As far as what I mentioned about how all Martin does is attack Saxby for supporting "George Bush economics," I find it a sad attempt to try to link him to Bush, who is unfortunately unpopular. Any sane person would realize that Bush isn't the only one who makes things happen. I'm sure it's flattering to him for people to give him so much power, but people keep forgetting Congress plays a part too. Instead of laying out what he believes in in his commercials, that's what he keeps referring to. Here's a link to one of those attack ads. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRA1...feature=related There's at least 2 or 3 more where he uses that phrase also. That's why I made that statement. So, now I've explained my first post on the subject.

No. I was referring to what was quoted.

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Originally posted by PVDfan07 As far as what I mentioned about how all Martin does is attack Saxby for supporting "George Bush economics," I find it a sad attempt to try to link him to Bush, who is unfortunately unpopular. Any sane person would realize that Bush isn't the only one who makes things happen. I'm sure it's flattering to him for people to give him so much power, but people keep forgetting Congress plays a part too.

You're right. The president isn't 100% responsible for this nation's economic plan. Congress takes a huge role. In fact, I bet the our senators are involved!

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Originally posted by PVDfan07 Instead of laying out what he believes in in his commercials, that's what he keeps referring to.

And this is different from Saxby's commercials how? lol

There are two main reasons I am voting for Saxby:

1. Marginal attempt at a balance of power in Washington. Seeing as how it's all swinging left (as opposed to right like it did in 2002) I feel as though there has to be an opposing force in there. Unilateral party rule for either side I feel is a dangerous thing and an affront to our Republic.

2. He supports the FairTax. I know it will not pass any time soon, but I want people to remain vocal about it and I want people who have been given power who support it to remain in Washington to debate it. Our current tax system is utter wank.

In all honesty, I think that the popular vote for senators should be done away with and it needs to go back to being voted on by representatives.

But yes, I think Saxby is a bit of a condescending douchecicle, as is Jim Martin. Jim Martin also can't have a healthy debate without drawing in George Bush this and George Bush that. He really doesn't bring much to the table.

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Originally posted by iammesol And this is different from Saxby's commercials how? lol

No, Saxby Chambliss would never unfairly attack anyone in a political ad. Just ask John:

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Originally posted by John McCain "I'd never seen anything like that ad. Putting pictures of Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden next to the picture of a man who left three limbs on the battlefield -- it's worse than disgraceful. It's reprehensible."

... Okay, nevermind. I suppose Saxby's attacks are totally unacceptable. Thank you, Senator McCain, for defending the honor of our political institutions and improving our level of discourse.

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Originally posted by Sarah Palin ... he�s palling around with terrorists who would target their own country.

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Originally posted by Reuters McCain has accepted an invitation to attend a rally in Atlanta on Thursday for Republican Sen. Saxby Chambliss ...

wait what

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Originally posted by iammesol And this is different from Saxby's commercials how? lol

To be fair, the campaigns were being run cleanly until Jim Martin/his supporters that he hasn't denounced, started up with the attack ads.

It all started with the inane commercials that said "Saxby supported a 23% national sales tax on nearly EVERYTHING you buy". Which isn't true, and at best is highly misleading. He didn't pay for the advertising, but he sure as hell didn't really denounce it either.

Just sayin'

And yes, I do realize that most attack ads are usually wrong or highly misleading at best, but Martin sorta instigated it in this campaign

Both of you.

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Originally posted by iammesol Both of you.

eh?

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Originally posted by Ted Promo eh?

As in, well put.

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Originally posted by iammesol As in, well put.

Oh, well then -_-

lofflez.

But yeah, I think Saxby is a bit of bellend personally. He just seems like some uppity Republican. Jim Martin seems smarmy. Both of them fucking suck (as is the case with most Republicans and Democrats). But I realize how desperately there needs to be a balance in Washington, so I am forced to vote for Saxby.

The balance thing is one of the few things that I'm debating about. I completely agree, but I also don't want a guy who says "the other folks are voting" representing my state.

But you know, that is a pretty accurate representation of the majority that live here. lol

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Originally posted by iammesol The balance thing is one of the few things that I'm debating about. I completely agree, but I also don't want a guy who says "the other folks are voting" representing my state. But you know, that is a pretty accurate representation of the majority that live here. lol

Meh. He's a bellend, but I'm not going to base my vote off of one thing he said poorly.

Well I don't like his issues either, bruv.

Finally decided on Jim Martin after realizing the danger of things like Prop 8 appearing in GA.

Go Saxby! Sorry Martin fans, maybe next time. You may have gotten Obama, but at least I can be happy about something.

I'm happy with this

T'was frightened about unilateral party rule.

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Originally posted by Ted Promo I'm happy with this T'was frightened about unilateral party rule.

Me too man. That would have been bad.

I wonder how many celebratory filibusters there will be.

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Originally posted by Ted Promo I'm happy with this T'was frightened about unilateral party rule.

Agreed.

I also agree that Jim Martin instigated the attack ads by claiming Chambliss would vote in a 23% tax increase, failing to mention this would only happen IF the Fair Tax was established. Meaning, the IRS would be abolished before this happened. By removing the IRS, you're actually paying less in taxes once you do the math.

Both candidates ran shitty ads. Terribly shitty.

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Originally posted by iammesol Both candidates ran shitty ads. Terribly shitty.

This. Saxby ran ads that in essence said that Martin eats babies and loves pedophilia.

IF, and that's a big if, that was the case, I so would have voted for Martin.

I love dead baby jokes.

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