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"The clubbers" including only uncritical people, I guess?

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles "The clubbers" including only uncritical people, I guess?

including only clowns who pay money to stand in a crowd and fistpump to The Anthem.

Taste in music is relative, so no need to bash the guy...... He has done more than you (naysayers) will ever even hope to accomplish so there is something to say in that. Now go crawl back in your little holes and be bitter. It's easy to criticize when you haven't done SHIT, isn't it?

But back to the subject, coming from someone who listens to and enjoys all genres of electronic, I think he does a good job of "catering to the crowd" while at the same time bringing a good energy to his sets. He plays party music, plain and simple. His stuff is kinda cheesy at times, but overall I think he delivers what people want when they're in high energy party mode.

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Originally posted by DJ Simo Taste in music is relative, so no need to bash the guy...... He has done more than you (naysayers) will ever even hope to accomplish so there is something to say in that. Now go crawl back in your little holes and be bitter. It's easy to criticize when you haven't done SHIT, isn't it?

Jesus not this retardation again.

I hope I never accomplish anything close to what PVD has, personally.

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Originally posted by DJ Simo Taste in music is relative, so no need to bash the guy...... He has done more than you (naysayers) will ever even hope to accomplish so there is something to say in that.

What do accomplishments have to do with musical taste? I mean, would trust Donald Trump's taste in music? Karl Rove's? Yanni's?

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Originally posted by Clovis Jesus not this retardation again. I hope I never accomplish anything close to what PVD has, personally.

It's only retardation because you see it as so, joker...... Many people would see your taste in music as shitty, so who cares? I'm sure you don't.... I guess this whole debate is useless then, to each his own I suppose......

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Originally posted by Sykonee What do accomplishments have to do with musical taste? I mean, would trust Donald Trump's taste in music? Karl Rove's? Yanni's?

I think you misunderstood what I was saying. Nevermind.

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Originally posted by DJ Simo It's only retardation because you see it as so, joker...... Many people would see your taste in music as shitty, so who cares?

No, your "argument" is retardation�. According to you you can't critizise anything unless you've done at least the same (including movies, food, etc.)

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Originally posted by Nik Novo No, your "argument" is retardation�. According to you you can't critizise anything unless you've done at least the same (including movies, food, etc.)

No, your logic is retardation.I think you missed my point....

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Originally posted by DJ Simo I think you misunderstood what I was saying. Nevermind.

Your claim is that we have no right to question a person's taste in music because of their accomplishments. ("PvD has accomplished a bunch, so don't question his taste in music!" -paraphrase) I don't see what the misunderstanding is, unless you're retracting what you said and we can criticize someone's taste in music even if they've accomplished a lot of things in their life.

My brother Bilo has a very funny, retardation.

I'm no PVD fan, but Simo does have a point that you all seem to have missed. It's easy to criticize things things that don't relate to you.

Not for critics.

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Originally posted by Teezdalien I'm no PVD fan, but Simo does have a point that you all seem to have missed. It's easy to criticize things things that don't relate to you.

So... if I'm a clubber, and I criticize the music being played, THEN it makes it alright?

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Originally posted by Sykonee So... if I'm a clubber, and I criticize the music being played, THEN it makes it alright?

Right.

If someone comes up to you while a Barry Manilow song isn't playing and asks you what you think of his music, you can't say he is a dick cheese. You can only say that you are unable to comment at this time because his music isn't playing and he has too many accolades. There is an etiquette here. Someone pull that up for all the clueless twits here.

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Originally posted by DJ Simo Taste in music is relative, so no need to bash the guy...... He has done more than you (naysayers) will ever even hope to accomplish so there is something to say in that. Now go crawl back in your little holes and be bitter. It's easy to criticize when you haven't done SHIT, isn't it?

Do you realise you're making the same argument that is always made in this kind of thread and has been shot down every single time? If comparable success is a prerequisite to valid opinion, then you equally have no right to opinion. Which means you can't praise PVD either!

It turns out that everyone is entitled to an opinion, whether it be a positive or negative one. Keep reading because this next bit still applies to you:

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Originally posted by Teezdalien I'm no PVD fan, but Simo does have a point that you all seem to have missed. It's easy to criticize things things that don't relate to you.

I don't see how PVD doesn't relate to me. I'm a massive fan of his older, 90s material. Seven Ways is one of the best trance albums ever made and I have dozens of his other remixes and productions from that era.

Since I've spent plenty of money on Paul Van Dyk records I think I'm as entitled as anyone to have a say on the direction his music has taken. And frankly, this bullshit about clubbers, not critics is a smokescreen to disguise the clinical money-making exercise his career has become. I don't think he was making music for the critics in 1996 either, but he made fantastic music. Now he makes derivative pop-trash to hook in the kids who vote for him on the DJ Mag Top 100. His statement is an insult to critics and clubbers alike, because it assumes that critics never go clubbing and clubbers have no taste. Anyone who knows anything about Paul Van Dyk can see instantly that he's just making records to make money and bolster his fame, not to add something of worth to electronic music as he once did.

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Originally posted by elFreak

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Originally posted by DJ Simo Taste in music is relative, so no need to bash the guy......

Of course taste is relative, or at least it is to some degree. That doesn't mean that people are forbidden to talk about the reasons why they like or dislike something.

Nor does it mean that the only options in a music discussion are either to proclaim how much you love PvD or else just shut up, which is how a lot of people seem to interpret "taste is subjective."

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles Nor does it mean that the only options in a music discussion are either to proclaim how much you love PvD or else just shut up, which is how a lot of people seem to interpret "taste is subjective."

Let's just pull out the jealousy card so we can get it over with.

does anyone know anything about him and his wife getting a divorce? it had something to do with him receiving 'special treats' from jessica sutta while recording 'white lies'

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery Let's just pull out the jealousy card so we can get it over with.

He already did that implicitly when he talked about people on the forum being bitter because they haven't done what PvD has.

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Originally posted by Minimalism does anyone know anything about him and his wife getting a divorce? it had something to do with him receiving 'special treats' from jessica sutta while recording 'white lies'

who wouldn't want to treat 'God' circa 1999 to 2003?

I've been listening to his Vonync sessions for the last while now.

Some of the sets he plays out are incredible, and some kinda bad but for the most part though he was playing good tunes. Don't see what the hate here is for.

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Originally posted by r5a I've been listening to his Vonync sessions for the last while now. Some of the sets he plays out are incredible, and some kinda bad but for the most part though he was playing good tunes. Don't see what the hate here is for.

what's a 'last while'?

i do not know that period of time designation.

Im a clubber and I like what he plays...I know some people (e.g. my friend) go see him only to critize the music and compare pvd to their favorite DJs. I hate that so if u dont like Pvd stfu and go see tiesto or dubfire...

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