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Posted by ChemEnhanced on Nov-22-2008 01:44:

just imagine how many hot jewish girls were killed in the holocaust...thats the real crime.


Posted by Yohan on Nov-22-2008 01:47:

quote:
Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
just imagine how many hot jewish girls were killed in the holocaust...thats the real crime.

well, nazi camp guards banged them first before sending them for a shower

I'm so going to hell for that comment


Posted by Rose on Nov-22-2008 01:47:

quote:
Originally posted by Saka
+1




whore and dentist.


Posted by nchs09 on Nov-22-2008 01:50:

quote:
Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
just imagine how many hot jewish girls were killed in the holocaust...thats the real crime.
They left paperbag alive.... :-/


Posted by Lira on Nov-22-2008 02:24:

Three words: Flat Earth Society!
quote:
Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
just imagine how many hot jewish girls were killed in the holocaust...thats the real crime.

+1... I feel the same about Hiroshima and Nagasaki as well. Some of my hottest friends had relatives in Hiroshima


Posted by Krypton on Nov-22-2008 02:36:

The halocaust is a Jewish plot to garner worldwide sympathy for their Zionist imperialism.


Posted by gehzumteufel on Nov-22-2008 03:03:

quote:
Originally posted by Krypton
The halocaust is a Jewish plot to garner worldwide sympathy for their Zionist imperialism.

I hope this is a joke.


Posted by Krypton on Nov-22-2008 03:21:

quote:
Originally posted by gehzumteufel
I hope this is a joke.


+1



Posted by Slylee on Nov-22-2008 18:03:

my great grandpa was a german jew in germany during it. luckily he made it to america where he married my french-catholic great grandmother and converted. i totally would have been a jew.


Posted by bas on Nov-22-2008 18:47:

quote:
Originally posted by Slylee
my great grandpa was a german jew in germany during it. luckily he made it to america where he married my french-catholic great grandmother and converted. i totally would have been a jew.

I never knew that, that actually explains a lot.


Posted by gehzumteufel on Nov-22-2008 21:02:

quote:
Originally posted by Slylee
my great grandpa was a german jew in germany during it. luckily he made it to america where he married my french-catholic great grandmother and converted. i totally would have been a jew.

My great grandparents fled Tsarist Russia. So this was before the Nazi times, but still similar outcome.

(For all you that are confused with "tsarist", it is because you are used to seeing it spelled as "csar". Czar is technically incorrect. )


Posted by Lira on Nov-22-2008 21:38:

quote:
Originally posted by gehzumteufel
(For all you that are confused with "tsarist", it is because you are used to seeing it spelled as "csar". Czar is technically incorrect. )

It's not that it isn't correct... it just prioritises etymology over original pronunciation (which is not an uncommon thing to do in Western Europe), because of the different ways the word Caesar evolved in the many European languages:
quote:
1555, from Rus. tsar, from Old Slavic tsesari, from Gothic kaisar, from Gk. kaisar, from L. Caesar. First adopted by Russian emperor Ivan IV, 1547.
[Source]

So, all they did was keep the original "K" sound present in "Kaiser" (which was probably present in the original pronunciation of "Caesar"), and make it sound bit like the Russian word


Posted by Rook on Nov-22-2008 21:49:


Posted by gehzumteufel on Nov-23-2008 05:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Lira
It's not that it isn't correct... it just prioritises etymology over original pronunciation (which is not an uncommon thing to do in Western Europe), because of the different ways the word Caesar evolved in the many European languages:
[Source]

So, all they did was keep the original "K" sound present in "Kaiser" (which was probably present in the original pronunciation of "Caesar"), and make it sound bit like the Russian word

Well then my kind fellow. I was unaware of this.


Posted by Frenchie on Nov-23-2008 06:10:

You look like a monkey.


Posted by Omega_Blue on Nov-23-2008 06:11:

yeah and cut your fucking hair


Posted by passinglights on Nov-23-2008 07:16:

holographic pokemon cards are some good shit


Posted by Fledz on Nov-23-2008 10:09:

quote:
Originally posted by Lira
It's not that it isn't correct... it just prioritises etymology over original pronunciation (which is not an uncommon thing to do in Western Europe), because of the different ways the word Caesar evolved in the many European languages:
[Source]

So, all they did was keep the original "K" sound present in "Kaiser" (which was probably present in the original pronunciation of "Caesar"), and make it sound bit like the Russian word

What? There's no "K" in that Slavic pronunciation. It's still a "C" sound, even if it begins with TS.


Posted by Jake Benson on Nov-23-2008 10:58:

Re: Re: Holocaust Denial

quote:
Originally posted by ********
While I am not a holocaust denier, I am not a holocaust supporter.

...

Anyone who doesn't have primary source evidence eg. experiencing or seeing something themself has the right not to beleive.


So if someone killed your grandma, I could deny it ever happened because I didn't live to see it?

Culture is developed so that humans can learn from historically primary sources through secondary sources. If you want to doubt insurmountable amounts of documents showing certain events did exist, then you have the right not to believe it, but likewise people with half a brain have the right to think that you're a fucking idiot.


Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Nov-23-2008 11:10:

quote:
Originally posted by nchs09
They left paperbag alive.... :-/



thank the torah for that!


Posted by SuspicionVandit on Nov-23-2008 11:14:

I think the holocaust was bad.

vote for me in 2012


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Nov-23-2008 12:06:

Re: Re: Re: Holocaust Denial

quote:
Originally posted by Jake Benson
Culture is developed so that humans can learn from historically primary sources through secondary sources.


No, that would be why history was developed. Culture predates recorded documentation.

quote:
If you want to doubt insurmountable amounts of documents showing certain events did exist, then you have the right not to believe it, but likewise people with half a brain have the right to think that you're a fucking idiot.


Likewise, if I write down thousands of seemingly outlandish ideas that all correlate with one another, have I created the truth?


Posted by Jake Benson on Nov-23-2008 12:42:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Holocaust Denial

quote:
Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
No, that would be why history was developed. Culture predates recorded documentation.


No I am still right.

Culture was used before documentations so that humans could learn vicariously instead of learning the hard way (in person). That's why language was developed, so mom could tell her son, "don't go into that forest because a lion will eat you." (as opposed to the son not knowing his mother has encountered lots of angry lions in the forest and he goes into the forest and gets his arm bit off). The same is true for documenting history, as you said. But that doesn't mean it's incorrect for culture.

quote:
Likewise, if I write down thousands of seemingly outlandish ideas that all correlate with one another, have I created the truth?


Sorry but the Bible doesn't count as literal historical documentation.

So are you saying thousands of people testifying to witnessing or being in the holocaust was just a bunch of outlandish ideas that all correlate with one another? I suppose slavery was a hoax too. Why do black people believe in that fairy tale?


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Nov-23-2008 12:54:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Holocaust Denial

quote:
Originally posted by Jake Benson
No I am still right.

Culture was used before documentations so that humans could learn vicariously instead of learning the hard way (in person). That's why language was developed, so mom could tell her son, "don't go into that forest because a lion will eat you." (as opposed to the son not knowing his mother has encountered lots of angry lions in the forest and he goes into the forest and gets his arm bit off). The same is true for documenting history, as you said. But that doesn't mean it's incorrect for culture.


That's all well and good, but when it comes to the veracity of historical evidence, the anthropological transmission of culture is exceedingly irrelevant as the crux of the very topic at hand has everything to do with documentation and nothing to do with anecdote.

quote:
Sorry but the Bible doesn't count as literal historical documentation.


Nice try.

quote:
So are you saying thousands of people testifying to witnessing or being in the holocaust was just a bunch of outlandish ideas that all correlate with one another? I suppose slavery was a hoax too. Why do black people believe in that fairy tale?


Thousands of people? What people? Old people tend to tell stories and make shit up, it's just a part of getting old.

Tell you what, if you can find some actual historical documentation of events indicating there was some sort of mass murder of people of Jewish descent in the 1930s and 40s by a political party clearly aimed by economic idealism that is verifiable by recurrent evidence remiss of cultural interference, I might just believe you.

Until then, it's just geezers weaving yarns about how big a fish they almost caught.

I mean, really, why would this Hitler guy go through so much trouble? Where's the motive?


Posted by ChemEnhanced on Nov-23-2008 13:19:

the holocaust had its benefits.....major medical break throughs were made by experimenting on Jews.


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