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Originally posted by smuncky depends. are they into/express an intrest in photography?

Yes and no.

They have an old Nikon SLR camera but stopped using it a few years ago. They have talked about getting one but didn't want to spend the money on this...but they are paying for me to go to Hawaii so I think an expensive present is in order.

hmm. well if they already invested in a nikon system, they most likely have old lenses. i'm not sure about old lenses on new bodies though. you might want to ask about that from a store rep.

basically they won't be dissappointed with the d90. especially if they were already looking into it.

Aight so heres the deal... I ended up getting the Nikon D60 with an 18-55mm lens as well as a 55-200mm lens for Christmas. I ended up exchanging (and paying a bit more) for a Canon Rebel XSi with a 18-200mm lens like someone mentioned before.

I also got a Sigma lens filter, Lowepro case, lens brush and a 16GB card in total. That should pretty much set me up for 2009 and forward. Hopefully by the end of the year I can grab a wideangle/fisheye lens which is what I really want.

I like the Canon a lot more than the Nikon... I only chose the Nikon cause my friend had one so it was an easy transition. The features are pretty much the same except I don't have to swap lenses on this camera, where the Nikon I had to interchange if I wanted to use the high zoom. All in all I paid almost double for the Canon but I love it better and I'm happy with all the accessories that I got for it.

I ended up going with a Nikon D60 and thus far, I'm right happy with the choice. I'm about to inherit an SB-600 Speedlight, 18-200 AF-S lens and one other one (can't remember off the top of my head, think it's a Tamron Lens) from a family member. I'm told that the 18-200 will replace my Kit 18-55 for daily usage and when coupled with a Speedlight I'm excited to learn some cool shit with this thing.

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Originally posted by Dior Homme Hopefully by the end of the year I can grab a wideangle/fisheye lens which is what I really want.

the only fisheye lens on the market right now made for aps-c sensors is the tokina. i want that badly but im in the process of saving money for the canon 50d, canon 17-55mm f/2.8 IS USM and canon 580ex.

I want the Nikon 70-200mm f/2.8

Too much damn money

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Originally posted by chinamon the only fisheye lens on the market right now made for aps-c sensors is the tokina. i want that badly but im in the process of saving money for the canon 50d, canon 17-55mm f/2.8 IS USM and canon 580ex.

are you sure? i though the EF 15mm f/2.8 Fisheye was both wide angle and of course produces fisheye like photos...

its pretty pricey (around $8-900 however i found it on newegg for $724 CDN!) but then again its more visually pleasing in certain photos if shot correctly. i tried the nikkor fisheye at henrys and was in love with its usefulness.

the few problems i have read about with the canon EF fisheye are: it makes a really loud shutter sound and you can't put a lens filter on it because of the glass curvature protruding outward, which sets it up for being scratched if not careful.

i love my camera and loaded it up with all the accessories. im trying to find some good books that will teach me composition, use of light and just how to be creative while shooting. if anyone knows of any please post them up!

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Originally posted by Dior Homme im trying to find some good books that will teach me composition, use of light and just how to be creative while shooting. if anyone knows of any please post them up!

I'll second that post, Any suggestions?

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Originally posted by Dior Homme are you sure? i though the EF 15mm f/2.8 Fisheye was both wide angle and of course produces fisheye like photos... its pretty pricey (around $8-900 however i found it on newegg for $724 CDN!) but then again its more visually pleasing in certain photos if shot correctly. i tried the nikkor fisheye at henrys and was in love with its usefulness. the few problems i have read about with the canon EF fisheye are: it makes a really loud shutter sound and you can't put a lens filter on it because of the glass curvature protruding outward, which sets it up for being scratched if not careful. i love my camera and loaded it up with all the accessories. im trying to find some good books that will teach me composition, use of light and just how to be creative while shooting. if anyone knows of any please post them up!

go do some research on the various fisheye lenses.
the canon EF fisheye is made for full frame sensors.
the tokina is the only one designed for the aps-c (crop) sensors.

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Originally posted by Dior Homme are you sure? i though the EF 15mm f/2.8 Fisheye was both wide angle and of course produces fisheye like photos... its pretty pricey (around $8-900 however i found it on newegg for $724 CDN!) but then again its more visually pleasing in certain photos if shot correctly. i tried the nikkor fisheye at henrys and was in love with its usefulness. the few problems i have read about with the canon EF fisheye are: it makes a really loud shutter sound and you can't put a lens filter on it because of the glass curvature protruding outward, which sets it up for being scratched if not careful. i love my camera and loaded it up with all the accessories. im trying to find some good books that will teach me composition, use of light and just how to be creative while shooting. if anyone knows of any please post them up!

check out the Peleng 8mm fisheye lens. results

books can only teach you so much. you have to go and actually shoot shoot shoot. that's the only way you'll get better. and experiement...that's the beauty of the digital age...the only limit is the size of you memory card.

i'd also suggest going on flickr and looking around to see what you like and then checking out the exif info for all the technical stuff.

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Originally posted by smuncky check out the Peleng 8mm fisheye lens. results

i totally forgot about the peleng. looks like a good lens judging by those sample shots. the only thing i dont like about the peleng is it is really freaking ugly looking.

edit: its about $500CAD to buy the peleng with shipping from ebay . i think id rather pay $560+tax for the tokina.

books won't do much..practice practice practice..

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Originally posted by Shaya007 books won't do much..practice practice practice..

reading is still required though. reading is how i learned the theory behind everything. practicing allowed me to put those theories to use.
but dont bother buying books. there are tons of reading material available on the internet for free. just use google.

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Originally posted by chinamon i want that badly but im in the process of saving money for the canon 50d, canon 17-55mm f/2.8 IS USM and canon 580ex.

Hope you would go further for better cameras, since you seem like hard working man... Since you have such a good access(relationship as well) to those people and events, wish you get better profit from your effort.

Have you ever tried to create a portfolio and submit to those fancy magazines??Following masters on net and print media???

As for fisheye lenses, if you guys can manage to hold camera straight you can even have fantastic portraits without distortions. After a while zoom lenses won't make sense, so you might consider sharp and fast single focus lenses. And you might discover that you are more creative with single lens as you try very hard to create perfect frame in single angle... This is what usually people experience. So I wouldn't invest so much money on zoom lenses in the beginning. See what you like and invest your money on right thing...

I don't follow recent digital developments,these are suggestions from a film user...There is some great zoom lenses, but they are over priced...

the only site i've looked at is http://www.canon.com.au/eos/tips/. it talks about the following topics.

Shooting Panaramas
Shooting Close Ups
Exploring Lens Focal Lengths
Playing with Lens Aperture
Shooting Moving Objects
Water in Motion
Exploring Filers
Sunsets and Sunrises
Taking Pictures at the Beach
Shooting at Night I
Shooting at Night II
Shooting in Monochrome
TutorialsTutorial 1 - Your Camera
Tutorial 2 - Shooting Modes
Tutorial 3 - Getting More Creative
Tutorial 4 - Accessories for EOS

they had videos before which was s bit better because it was less boring but it's still quick and helpful. and it's not just for canon users. it basically goes over the fundamental stuff which each cameara has.

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here are some other sites i got from a FAQ on the RFD photography forum.

Flash/Lightening - http://www.strobist.blogspot.com/

Cheap DIY Lightbox - http://photography-on-the.net/forum/...d.php?t=281524

Cheap DIY Bounce Card - http://www.abetterbouncecard.com/

RAW vs. JPG - http://www.luminous-landscape.com/re...w_vs_jpg.shtml (RFD discussion http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/s...d.php?t=536536)

Understanding Histograms - http://www.luminous-landscape.com/tu...stograms.shtml

A Tedious Explanation of the f/stop - http://www.uscoles.com/fstop.htm

Exposure/Manual Light Meter - http://www.uscoles.com/exposures.pdf

Photography tips and techniques: articles and guides - http://photo.net/learn/

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and here are 2 toronto photography groups as well.

Toronto Photography Meet-Up Group - http://www.tpmg.ca/

Toronto Urban Exploration Group - http://urbanexplor.meetup.com/12/?gj=sj5


hope that helps

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Originally posted by Shaya007 books won't do much..practice practice practice..

Just buy photography books that interest your style... technical stuff is not hard since there are forums and of course practice is the key...

Thanks a lot for the links peeps! I know practicing will get me far but I would still like to educate myself on some basics, I perhaps wouldn't have come across or thought of on my own. I won't base everything off of books.

The wide angle or fisheye lenses are only a want for me right now, not necessarily a need. I wanna master the 18-200m lens I have right now and see how far that takes me.

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