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just go read one of his blog entries.. and the truth of this thread's title is revealed

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Originally posted by The Wiz ... and I love him to bits. so insanely talented.

talented, yes...but one arrogant ******!

I don't mind him.
I watched him perform at the American Music Awards on Sunday(I think) and I thought he sounded really good. I liked the background too.
Although I hate all rap music, and anything around that genre...I can respect what he does. He's different.

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Originally posted by *~LiSa-LoO~* I can't stand black people.

fixed

His interview from Conan yesterday, he talks about the synths and vocoder at 7:00mints.

He is slightly more talented than average in his trade and a picture perfect description of a guy who thinks his shit smells like roses. I really love how he includes his mom in all his speeches, like it's the all mighty shield that can protect against all and make up for all the arrogance. You gotta give it to his creativity though (like we haven't heard that people are poor, people are racist, people shoot people, people are real people, before) and I'm sure that's what makes him stick out from the bunch... and that he is the only one that has the balls to steal all the left over clothes from the set of all in the family and rock it out on the red carpet.

Yay for kanye!

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Originally posted by Zentac_75 Your educated opinion. I have faith. MJ made disco tracks as part of the jackson 5. Eric Clapton was a fantastic guitarist in Cream. Dave Grohl IS as important to Nirvana as Kirk. Im aware it is not the same comparison, but for whatever reason I believe Kanye is an artist, and it is by coincidence not by design that his appeal crosses genres at this point. His music is not YET 'classic' or 'revolutionary'. Now you have to admit that for someone who garners as much negative press for his arrogance and concietedness(sp?) he STILL receives critical acclaim after the most rediculous behaviour besides MJ having sleep overs with little kids.

Its not educated; I just spent alot of my youth listenning to Hip Hop. I realise you were being sarcastic.

I get what you are saying about "faith". It is clear that he can make music; he has a style, his flow is decent and interestingly he is NEVER exclaimed for his flow, rhymes - just his beats and his themes. Thats fine, that is his style. I dont care for it and yes that is my opinion.

I dont see him anywhere in the vicinity of Clapton or MJ; David Groll - yes. Groll has mastered the art of pleasurable pop rock that sits just above the trite nonsense of Nickleback and the like. But again Grolls music post Nirvana is better.

His conceitedness is AS I SEE IT, the progression of the "bling era" of rap music. It obvious, flashy and aims perpetuate an image.

Hip hop has for years crossed or simply sampled elements from litterally all generes of music; 50's/classical/movie soundtracks/metal - so I dont see how Kayne doing it, is any different. Hip hop at its core was always about a few simple things, sampling is a majour one.

At the end of the day I am only uninterested in his image, his music is fine. His image is obvious, tacky and has only gotten more and more irritating.

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Originally posted by SPANIARD He is slightly more talented than average in his trade and a picture perfect description of a guy who thinks his shit smells like roses. I really love how he includes his mom in all his speeches, like it's the all mighty shield that can protect against all and make up for all the arrogance. You gotta give it to his creativity though (like we haven't heard that people are poor, people are racist, people shoot people, people are real people, before) and I'm sure that's what makes him stick out from the bunch... and that he is the only one that has the balls to steal all the left over clothes from the set of all in the family and rock it out on the red carpet. Yay for kanye!

he is arguably one of the best hip hop producers of all time...i wouldn't call him slightly more talented than average....

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Originally posted by gummybear he is arguably one of the best hip hop producers of all time...i wouldn't call him slightly more talented than average....

I don't think it's necessary to roll your eyes at someone who's stating their opinion of him being slightly better than average. Especially when his post is praising Kanye for the most part.

Despite my minimal knowledge of hip-hop, I would say that considering its long legacy, it's still early in his career to say that he's one of the best hip hop producers of all time. Though he may be well on his way.

i have to say one thing abt this thread. STICK TO EDM!


sometimes its better to keep ur mouth shut and let everyone think ur an idiot then open it and confirm everyones beliefs.


Anyone who doesn't listen to hip hop should not be commenting in this thread. its like me going into a garth brooks thread and saying his latest cd is garbage, not knowing anything abt country music

kanye's latest cd is garbage.

ps. i don't listen to hip hop or whatever they're calling it these days.

yea I think its garbage too

ps. I havent even heard the cd (or any of his cds for that matter)

*brap*

dont really give a shit about his attitude. im judging him based on his music alone and having said that, he made a pretty nice album. raw, a lot of 80s influence as the article suggests (the last track is pretty much 'Memories Fade' by Tears For Fears). i'll be listening to it for a while

Thought this was "Tranceaddict". Boo to Kanye.

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Originally posted by Vivid Boy i have to say one thing abt this thread. STICK TO EDM! sometimes its better to keep ur mouth shut and let everyone think ur an idiot then open it and confirm everyones beliefs. Anyone who doesn't listen to hip hop should not be commenting in this thread. its like me going into a garth brooks thread and saying his latest cd is garbage, not knowing anything abt country music

Thats not fair. You don't need to listen to country to know its garbage...

Jks

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Originally posted by *~LiSa-LoO~* I don't think it's necessary to roll your eyes at someone who's stating their opinion of him being slightly better than average. Especially when his post is praising Kanye for the most part.

Ahh, actually I didn't mean to say one good thing about him, I guess maybe sarcasm doesn't come across very well over the internet.

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Originally posted by Vivid Boy i have to say one thing abt this thread. STICK TO EDM! sometimes its better to keep ur mouth shut and let everyone think ur an idiot then open it and confirm everyones beliefs. Anyone who doesn't listen to hip hop should not be commenting in this thread. its like me going into a garth brooks thread and saying his latest cd is garbage, not knowing anything abt country music

No, no see this is the thing, it's not country music, it's EDM. What the hell do you know about it and what do you know about what people know about hip hop in here? I've never seen you once write anything useful about any song, artist or genre. So aside from all your egotistical rants and your shitty c0r jokes, why don't you post something people want to read because when it comes to music, you're the least useful person on this forum.

I'd say lets do a hip hop trivia but you'd just use google.

but my question to you is what the fuck do you know about anything unedm related. The majority of this site call themselves music lovers but ask them where most of this music is influenced from and they wouldn't have a fuckin clue. Ask them anything music related that has nothing to do with edm and once again they don't have a fuckin clue and they don't want to have a clue. I'm not saying you directly, but the majority.

And you are talking about my contribution to this site?? Who are you even? It's funny when people say "you haven't contributed shit all to this site accept for jokes and laughter", meanwhile people keep coming back to read my posts for that exact reason. let me ask you what the fuck have you done? maybe a couple of reviews on a party? maybe made a Tiesto thread and posted YAY TIESTO IS SO GOOD HE KILLED IT WHEN HE PLAYED SO AND SO TRACK!! YAY!!

bud, I wouldn't go testing someones "contribution" to a site when his name is a household name around these parts and nobody would notice if you one day rolled over from ur comp screen and choked on a fuckin dorito.

A household name? Fuck right off

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Originally posted by 7-4-7 Its not educated; I just spent alot of my youth listenning to Hip Hop. I realise you were being sarcastic. I get what you are saying about "faith". It is clear that he can make music; he has a style, his flow is decent and interestingly he is NEVER exclaimed for his flow, rhymes - just his beats and his themes. Thats fine, that is his style. I dont care for it and yes that is my opinion. I dont see him anywhere in the vicinity of Clapton or MJ; David Groll - yes. Groll has mastered the art of pleasurable pop rock that sits just above the trite nonsense of Nickleback and the like. But again Grolls music post Nirvana is better. His conceitedness is AS I SEE IT, the progression of the "bling era" of rap music. It obvious, flashy and aims perpetuate an image. Hip hop has for years crossed or simply sampled elements from litterally all generes of music; 50's/classical/movie soundtracks/metal - so I dont see how Kayne doing it, is any different. Hip hop at its core was always about a few simple things, sampling is a majour one. At the end of the day I am only uninterested in his image, his music is fine. His image is obvious, tacky and has only gotten more and more irritating.

Excellent post.

I can't disagree with anything you have said.

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Originally posted by SPANIARD Ahh, actually I didn't mean to say one good thing about him, I guess maybe sarcasm doesn't come across very well over the internet.

Whoops! My bad.

the thread lost direction, im so lost ... you cant leave trance addict for a second ha ha

and vivd chill jeez you have no idea who does or doesn't listen to whatever... not that it matters in the first place. btw u like the new album? curious if you were sarcastic earlier with your first post lol

and kanye is getting into the realm of edm which is why we are all talking about it.

I like the new album its got a cool 80's feel to it.


Kanye as a rapper and as a singer is blaa though.

I liked his first and second album when he would have cameos from good artists his last few albums hes put the worst artists ever on them. young jeezy lil wayne <--- people with no talent.

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Originally posted by Vivid Boy hes put the worst artists ever on them. young jeezy lil wayne

I agree, you'd think he has the power to get who he wants on his albums too...

Just actually listened to his new album on the way to work today...and to my surprise really liked it.

Its a lot different from his other albums, really raw and downtempo, with a ton of emphasis on the lyrical contect, and not just club bangers like his other works. Definatly worth checking out IMO.

Fav Song on it:
Kayne West f. Kid Kudi: Welcome to Heartbreak

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Originally posted by Vivid Boy Nirvana = the most overrated band in rock history

Never EVER liked the band, even with they were ALL the rage at the end of public school [slash] all through high school.

Just never got them. Glad.

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