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Originally posted by DuMonde TrAnCeR if u ever want the same feeling again, just dont take it for a year. then if u take it again after that it is like starting all over again, almost.

Or do those mitsi turbo's we had for Picotto the other weekend

Its all about moderation man. I popped my first pill back in 98 and have done it maybe 10 times since. If u do it like once every 6 months to a year and only take one maybe two u will never feel the depression or empty feeling.

Im pretty much done with it, maybe if a good chance arises but it has to be damn worth it now. It fucks with your brain and once u realize this its not appealing..

Just smoke bud man its the greatest!!!!!!!!!

lovely xtc chick

I will never understand why is it that people take drugs to enjoy a party, It's just like getting heavily drunk... I mean- I like getting slightly drunk, you know... lighten up a bit.
Though getting out of control, that's one of the worst feelings ever... when your'e high you can't perfectly enjoy the trance experiance, not value every sound of it, not to mention control your body.

And I'm not gonna even begin talking about the brain damage it causes...

Ohhh, and BTW- I love you Palivar

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Originally posted by eXeTik I will never understand why is it that people take drugs to enjoy a party, It's just like getting heavily drunk... I mean- I like getting slightly drunk, you know... lighten up a bit. Though getting out of control, that's one of the worst feelings ever... when your'e high you can't perfectly enjoy the trance experiance, not value every sound of it, not to mention control your body. And I'm not gonna even begin talking about the brain damage it causes... Ohhh, and BTW- I love you Palivar

I can tell u this, everytime i have ever beaned. I have been in control at all times. I've never eaten more then 1 at once and never more then 3 a night. U can control yourself (to an extent)on a roll just as much as when ur drunk. I've been in worse shape off alchohol then anything. I've once even came home in the middle of a bean to have an arguement with my parents.

I've only eaten x at clubs and never had anyone come up and "Blow" me up. I just like to eat it cuz no matter what anyone says. It does make the music a lil more enjoyable and i can listen and observe just as well as anyone in the club if not more. I LOOOOOVE trance sober but its amazing when ur feeling the effexstacy.

This I can guarantee, and anyone who says otherwise and has yet to try it, holds no pull.

If you've never tried it, you can't know that it isnt better.

You can understand and love trance as much as you can, but listen to music on 1 pill + 1 trip... and you will understand a whole new level to that which is trance.

And current research shows that weed is more damaging to the brain than ecstacy...

I guess it summers up to wether you like beeing in control or not... I enjoy clubbing, and from my POV trance is more enjoyable when your'e in control.

Either way, one pill causes some serious brain damage... just imagine the damage it causes for a serious consumer such as yourself.

Thats the thing, I havent experienced any of the negatives, and thats coz I make up for what I DO do, by not doing other things.
I dont smoke/drink alcohol, I exercise regularily, and I eat healthily.
And it is very easy to be in control on a few narcotics.
I'd be fine on 1 pill and 1 trip.

But I guess that the apparent damage of drugs will only be known in the future, but hell, you only live once

cool kids....

Re: No more XTC for me........

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Originally posted by TECHno addict I've been a pretty consistant xtc user for about 2 years now. I've had great times in the past on the drug, but the past few times ive used have turned out to be some of the worst experiences of my life. This is why ive decided to stop doing this mentally damaging drug. The last 3 or 4 times of using, my buzz has worn off quicker, and the come down has been far worse, resulting in me throwing up from such bad migraines. The feeling of depression and emptyness isnt too swell either. I dont regret doing E, since it is the reason i got into the electronic music scene. But i thought i'd post this to other users who have considered quitting, and maybe make people realize you can enjoy raves/parties without the chemicals.

Yeah.. E will mess up your nervous system if you abuse it. NOt to mention it will subtlty wreck you psychologically over time. I tried for 4 months some years ago. I wasn't a consistent user and stopped the use when I knew the experimentation is over. I've ound a natural alternative that can be just as potent as E and LSD. A natural, synergetic activation with your brain's natural ability to produce the "I'm *beep* high" neurons.

What is it? It's not the common weed you find on the market but a combo of Sativa and Indica species of strains that'll leave you wondering why you can't remember your name.. hehe

my bird was on ecstacy and now look what happened...

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Originally posted by kr00t0n This I can guarantee, and anyone who says otherwise and has yet to try it, holds no pull. If you've never tried it, you can't know that it isnt better. You can understand and love trance as much as you can, but listen to music on 1 pill + 1 trip... and you will understand a whole new level to that which is trance. And current research shows that weed is more damaging to the brain than ecstacy...

*LOL Are you kidding? Ever heard of Marinol? It's legal. Why do cancer people use weed? Why do terminally illed people use it? It is not going to be esctacy or cocaine..

The only damage, which is remote, from weed use is smoking it. And smoking is not the only way to use weed.

can you really quit?

i quit e 2 1/2 years ago because i hated it and how it made me feel. but even though i said i would never do it again, i have done it 3 times since then. the first time i quit, i was unnaturally depressed for a year after i stopped.

slylee's experience sounds so much like my most recent time. i took it at PVD (my 1st time seeing him) and it ruined my night because i knew the ecstatic feelings i was having for his music were not real. it is so much more meaningful when you get those feelings haven taken no drugs. i was so depressed at how bad i was to my body that i quit smoking cigarettes, pot, and drinking the day after that.

i'd like to say i quit forever but forever is a long time and sooner or later i will forget all the reasons i hate e and do it again only to be reminded of those reasons again.

This kind of sounds like "ILL NEVER DRINK AGAIN!!" and its said with such passion at the time, but then as soon as you arent hung over...glug glug glug. Well, thats how it worked for me. I got alcohol poisoning and said i would NEVER drink hard A again. Now I have 101 proof permafrost every night. I dont think there is a point to this story, or a good moral, but ill make one up for you.

So the moral is, if you are going to drink till the point of alcohol poisoning, pick an alchol you HATE, then who gives a shit if you cant drink it for a year, because you hate it anyways, save the good stuff for savorin!

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Originally posted by kr00t0n I make up for what I DO do, by not doing other things. I dont smoke/drink alcohol, I exercise regularily, and I eat healthily.

Eating healthy and not drinking is all good but it won't restore any dead brain cells caused by x

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But I guess that the apparent damage of drugs will only be known in the future, but hell, you only live once

Yes, you do live once... but why make life shorter

the harsh effects of ecstacy...

Whoever said that the only bad thing weed does is by smoking it, that is ignorant. I'll just forget I read that.

Anyways, if you take prozac after you roll (theoretically) it won't damage your brain anyways. Do your research...

BUT ... In January I rolled for about the 10th time in a year (yeah it's not a huge amount, but ...) and I was starting to get bored with it - the effects weren't as intense or as long and I didn't want to start taking like 4 pills so I quit until I find a reasonable event to do it (trust me, rolling with 3 friends after bar time just because you're bored isn't the greatest idea in the world.)

And for people who criticize people who have tried ecstasy, that's pure ignorance and stupidity. You will never know what it is like until you try it, and stop trying to make yourself like a morally sound trance lover who is only in it for the music just to make yourself look better / feel cool.

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And for people who criticize people who have tried ecstasy, that's pure ignorance and stupidity. You will never know what it is like until you try it, and stop trying to make yourself like a morally sound trance lover who is only in it for the music just to make yourself look better / feel cool.

Well said!

I see this too often in many different forms.
I see people of one type of music genre go and belittle people who like other sorts of music.
Similar case this.
People who don't take drugs always rag on those who do, and I can't figure out why.

Anyways, as for ecstacy killing brain cells... yeah it does, and so does just about anything in life. I'm afraid one game of american football will kill more braincells than 6 monthes of moderate pill usage would.

Luckily, we have quite a few brain cells.

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i took it at PVD (my 1st time seeing him) and it ruined my night because i knew the ecstatic feelings i was having for his music were not real. it is so much more meaningful when you get those feelings haven taken no drugs.

I can't help but laugh. I don't want to, and I know it'll cause me more trouble than it's worth... but WTF!!?!?!?!
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAH

How can you say you had a bad time because you knew that what you were experiencing was drug assisted fun???


It just gets me that there's all this taboo around drugs.
Not all people who use drugs are terrible wankers who would steal from their own mother to support their habits.
We are DECENT people.
And those that think that we arent, have just been poisoned by the governments plans to make drugs seem like this terrible evil.
They always expose the public to the worse case scenarios.

Just remember, in the beggining of the last century, alcohol had as bad a rep as drugs of today, so I look forward to being able to buy a trip and 2 pills from the 7-eleven in about 30 years time

Oh, and techno addict, please dont take this as a personal attack against you, I'm actually very glad that you are happy to be quitting.
And I will be so when I quit in a few years time.

Re: can you really quit?

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Originally posted by butterfly i took it at PVD (my 1st time seeing him) and it ruined my night because i knew the ecstatic feelings i was having for his music were not real. it is so much more meaningful when you get those feelings haven taken no drugs. i was so depressed at how bad i was to my body that i quit smoking cigarettes, pot, and drinking the day after that.

Ok. you took E you felt bad about it -> bad experience
E is a psychological drug and the feeling you get from it is pretty much based on how your mind is set at the time your rolling.
To make the experience better it's very important that you look forward to the experience and have positive thinkings... I'm telling you negative thinking is the thing that makes you feel bad while rolling, I guess that you did have some negative thingings towards the drug while rolling, am I right?

I only need to say two words to the guy that said smoking weed wouldn't do any harm to your brain. "MEMORY LOSS"

And one more thing for guys and girls who take E's and want to do it safe and REDUCE the negative effects then it might really help to read this

Cheers
TheFeeling

heh, you guys make it sound like E does nothing bad at all

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Originally posted by kr00t0n Oh, and techno addict, please dont take this as a personal attack against you, I'm actually very glad that you are happy to be quitting. And I will be so when I quit in a few years time.

No, im not taking that as an attack at all. Actually i wish i was still like you being able to have a good long lasting positive trip on an amazing drug. I just cant take the intesity the same way anymore for some reason, and the migraines blow. I respect anyone who uses E in moderation, those who do multiple doses on a weekly basis better think about the concequences!!! Good thread here, keep the stories and comments comin. By the way........that naked XTC girl was MAAAAAAAAAD hot. wow.

gawd i am so sick and tired of people bashing people who bash drugs...where the fuck is your BRAIN these days..like ur some kind of loser/pussy if u chose music without drugs over "I need drugs to 'feel' music"...cant u people have some damn respect for those of us who have grown out of that whole fake ass scene and actually enjoy music for what it is...now a days i get the same feeling, if not better, when im listening to a good tune as i did when i would be "rolling" and listening to it...and the best part is i dont get that cracked out feeling in the morning!!!

werd

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Originally posted by Slylee gawd i am so sick and tired of people bashing people who bash drugs...where the fuck is your BRAIN these days..like ur some kind of loser/pussy if u chose music without drugs over "I need drugs to 'feel' music"...cant u people have some damn respect for those of us who have grown out of that whole fake ass scene and actually enjoy music for what it is...now a days i get the same feeling, if not better, when im listening to a good tune as i did when i would be "rolling" and listening to it...and the best part is i dont get that cracked out feeling in the morning!!!

I agree 100%.
But i think those of you who r still gettin those wicked trips, take advantage of the moment and enjoy yourself. Its a great feeling, when you know the comedown is minimal.

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