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Posted by Zild on Dec-03-2008 17:49:

Economically I couldn't handle the burden involved with paying back student loans for private or out of state schools that rank lower than UT on the listing of top world universities (Texas is somewhere around #30-40 in the world). I should have gone to NYU, MIT, or CalTech. I owe $50,000 in student loans right now, so I can't really imagine what I would owe if I had gone to one of the schools of my choice.

I'm probably the first person you met who didn't like it because everyone who goes there thinks they're god's gift just because they went to THE university. And their heads are so firmly implanted into their anuses that you won't be able to convince them otherwise.


Posted by The17sss on Dec-03-2008 17:58:

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Originally posted by Zild
Economically I couldn't handle the burden involved with paying back student loans for private or out of state schools that rank lower than UT on the listing of top world universities (Texas is somewhere around #30-40 in the world). I should have gone to NYU, MIT, or CalTech. I owe $50,000 in student loans right now, so I can't really imagine what I would owe if I had gone to one of the schools of my choice.


MIT or CalTech? holy brainiac... what did you get your degree in? I hear you though; I had about $50K of student loans to pay back too and it hurt for a while


Posted by Zild on Dec-03-2008 18:01:

That is the thing. Everyone who went to UT is really intelligent or they wouldn't be there. Like I said I think it is ranked like #35 in the world.

chemistry... i actually dropped out though and now i play bongos on the drag for rent money

actually it is #39 and at $4-5000 a semester you really can't beat the value


Posted by The17sss on Dec-03-2008 18:11:

Yeah it's like U of Michigan or UF or UVA as far as being super high quality public universities... a rarity if you ask me. Chemistry is brutal man. I don't know how you got past those conversion tables changing grams to moles and vice versa. Thank god I only had to take 1 chemistry class in college


Posted by jerZ07002 on Dec-03-2008 18:25:

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Originally posted by Zild
To quote Zach de la Rocha, 'fuck white culture... americana'


the same white culture americana that made him rich.


Posted by Zild on Dec-03-2008 18:29:

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Originally posted by jerZ07002
the same white culture americana that made him rich.


Yep they're the idiots who buy his music. I can hate someone and still take their money. That is an extra bonus.


Posted by jerZ07002 on Dec-03-2008 19:13:

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Originally posted by Zild
Yep they're the idiots who buy his music. I can hate someone and still take their money. That is an extra bonus.


that's exactly why all my rage music is pirated. seriously. I love his music, but I could never support him financially.


Posted by Lebezniatnikov on Dec-03-2008 19:20:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Hopeandchange discounted 63%

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Originally posted by The17sss
don't worry about what my mom thinks. The insults were just par for the course after your usual holier than thou comments. But thanks for pointing out the PUMA email's original text (not really)... I'm not sure what the point of that is because I don't care where my sig came from, be it A&M students, a PUMA email, or Osama Bin Laden; and whether or not it makes sense that it's the result of a campus wide contest; I like what it says and I made it my sig. I don't have to cite a sig like a damn newspaper article.





I didn't tell you to edit it on your sig - I just said I find it amusing, and I'll stand by that.

As to your "par for the course" comment - the only ad hominem remarks I've made toward you were as a direct result of the plagiarism thread and I'll stand by those as well. So be mindful of who you retaliate against for being told to get AIDS/Cancer (which I've never said)... you're justifying your ad hominems with the fact that some third party once lobbed them at you. As the saying goes, two wrongs don't make a right, and you're certainly not winning any friends on this end either.


Posted by DJ Shibby on Dec-04-2008 00:56:

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Originally posted by Zild
chemistry... i actually dropped out though and now i play bongos on the drag for rent money


You don't need a second of formal schooling to make BANK in organic chemistry.


Posted by jerZ07002 on Dec-04-2008 04:19:

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Originally posted by DJ Shibby
You don't need a second of formal schooling to make BANK in organic chemistry.


if you plan on producing ecstasy of lsd.

why do people on this board always discount the value of a formal education? formal education is about more than just learning. it's also about making connections that would be difficult, if not impossible, to form without the experience. it's also about external credibility. without a few letters behind your name most people don't take you seriously in a field dominated by formally educated people.


Posted by Zild on Dec-04-2008 04:26:

Yeah I'd love to see anyone except a good formally trained organic chemist making real lsd-25. Will never happen. MDMA is somewhat easier (a lot easier), but still complicated enough that you would need at least two years of university chemistry lecture and lab courses to understand what you are doing and why you are doing it which is key to getting any sort of synthesis with good yields or decent purity. Not to speak of reducing the chances that you will injure yourself or blow something up that hand on experience in a teaching lab will provide. And you would need to know how to use equipment that you won't find or be able to get a hold of outside a chemistry lab.

Now meth is a different story.


Posted by jerZ07002 on Dec-04-2008 05:24:

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Originally posted by Zild
Yeah I'd love to see anyone except a good formally trained organic chemist making real lsd-25. Will never happen. MDMA is somewhat easier (a lot easier), but still complicated enough that you would need at least two years of university chemistry lecture and lab courses to understand what you are doing and why you are doing it which is key to getting any sort of synthesis with good yields or decent purity. Not to speak of reducing the chances that you will injure yourself or blow something up that hand on experience in a teaching lab will provide. And you would need to know how to use equipment that you won't find or be able to get a hold of outside a chemistry lab.

Now meth is a different story.


sorry about my inexperience in the finer points of illegal substance productions.

obviously i made a faulty illustration, but hopefully the point was taken.


Posted by DJ Shibby on Dec-04-2008 09:07:

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Originally posted by jerZ07002
if you plan on producing ecstasy of lsd.

why do people on this board always discount the value of a formal education? formal education is about more than just learning. it's also about making connections that would be difficult, if not impossible, to form without the experience. it's also about external credibility. without a few letters behind your name most people don't take you seriously in a field dominated by formally educated people.


I guess I just don't care what other people think in relation to personal knowledge and wisdom.

As we* get older, we* find that people aren't equipped to do their jobs; don't distress, just know there's always solutions.


Posted by DJ Shibby on Dec-04-2008 09:10:

quote:
Originally posted by Zild
Yeah I'd love to see anyone except a good formally trained organic chemist making real lsd-25. Will never happen. MDMA is somewhat easier (a lot easier), but still complicated enough that you would need at least two years of university chemistry lecture and lab courses to understand what you are doing and why you are doing it which is key to getting any sort of synthesis with good yields or decent purity. Not to speak of reducing the chances that you will injure yourself or blow something up that hand on experience in a teaching lab will provide. And you would need to know how to use equipment that you won't find or be able to get a hold of outside a chemistry lab.

Now meth is a different story.


Injure yourself!

LOL!

That's why we only let kids use vinegar in school "labs" today. God forbid they catch the chemistry bug.

The alchemists that made every statement you just uttered possible are rolling in their hives.





This thread is the bees knees.


Posted by Zild on Dec-04-2008 14:54:

And you're Dr. Sasha Shulgin now I suppose?


Posted by jerZ07002 on Dec-04-2008 15:21:

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Originally posted by DJ Shibby
I guess I just don't care what other people think in relation to personal knowledge and wisdom.

As we* get older, we* find that people aren't equipped to do their jobs; don't distress, just know there's always solutions.


those same people you don't care about are also the people who will send you a paycheck. unless you own your own business or don't care about money, caring about what other people think is a vital part of life.


Posted by Zild on Dec-04-2008 15:23:

Even owning your own business clients like to see credentials and will pay more if you have them.


Posted by jerZ07002 on Dec-04-2008 15:45:

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Originally posted by Zild
Even owning your own business clients like to see credentials and will pay more if you have them.


that's true. i was thinking more along the lines of small businesses, like a convenience store. Even then, financial backers (banks, etc...) would rather see a formal education.


Posted by Q5echo on Dec-05-2008 11:27:

bump


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