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Posted by DigitalTrance on Jun-06-2002 16:01:

How do you know the person posting for the download location hasnt spent hours looking for the set and has had no luck so he comes here asking where he can find it? if you are to be so unkind as to just simply post a url you are one lazy mofo


Posted by bluejay on Jun-06-2002 17:23:

lol, weren't we all "leechers" at one point??? we all had to have started somewhere. i'll even be the first to admit that in the past i have asked people "where can i get...", although i'm sure i looked for it on my own before i asked. but it's like you're trying to say there is a code of ethics behind sharing music...you sound like the people who shut down napster. such greed. why wouldn't we all want to share the music that we all love so much, whether that person is new to trance or inexperienced??? the reason why i love this community is because of the fact that people are so genuinely willing to help you out with whatever.

don't get me wrong, i do agree with your beliefs...you should make an attempt to find the music on your own, you should give something back to the community, and certainly you should not just demand handouts. but not everyone thinks like us and we shouldn't judge on a whole about people who are looking for sets or songs. who knows...they could be someone like you but just getting started into the TA community...we can't truly know what the intentions are of that person. if i was new and someone flamed me for trying to find a song or a set...i don't think i would still come back...but people helped me out so keep that in mind. blah, blah, blah...ok, ok, i'll get off my podium now


Posted by flystyler on Jun-06-2002 18:12:

quote:
Originally posted by bluejay
lol, weren't we all "leechers" at one point???


Well no i think we havent. Leechers r people who just take take take. And dont even say thanx.

That is what makes someone a leecher. Not even saying thanx for the tune.

I always were possibly try and thank the supplier of the tune


Posted by bluejay on Jun-06-2002 18:29:

quote:
Originally posted by flystyler


Well no i think we havent. Leechers r people who just take take take. And dont even say thanx.

That is what makes someone a leecher. Not even saying thanx for the tune.

I always were possibly try and thank the supplier of the tune



so if i just take, take, and take some more, and as long as i just say "hey, thanks" i'm not a leecher...come on...


Posted by torontotrance on Jun-06-2002 20:33:

Smile

Anyone posting threads....where can i find this...in the tracklist forum......i will personally delete their threads....no begging in the tracklist forum!.


Posted by DigitalTrance on Jun-06-2002 22:39:

quote:
Anyone posting threads....where can i find this...in the tracklist forum......i will personally delete their threads....no begging in the tracklist forum!.


Isnt that you abusing your admin powers by inforcing your own personal opinions when the forums where made for freedom of speach?


Posted by torontotrance on Jun-06-2002 22:59:

Smile

No..i'm not abusing my mod powers. It is not my opinion.....us mods decided (as a group) that we were tired of this and it had to change.


Posted by flystyler on Jun-06-2002 23:00:

quote:
Originally posted by bluejay



so if i just take, take, and take some more, and as long as i just say "hey, thanks" i'm not a leecher...come on...


Sorry i dont like to force rank, but this is just bone idol.

People on 56k modems find it hard to share stuff, and provide things.

So saying thanx is better than nothing.

Leechers just r there for the music, some dont even post, just come here to leech.

I hope that explains it more


Posted by JM on Jun-07-2002 00:06:

Re: Re: where can we download this?

quote:
Originally posted by Tranzlucent


It does get annoying. People just whine that they cant find this set or that set, instead of taking the time to find it for themselves. Alot of people want everything handed to them it seems.


whatever dood

some ppl just might not have 4 days to search the net like you do, just to try to find out where they can dl stuff from....or were you one of the lucky ones and got some help from other people telling you where to download stuff from???

>JM<


Posted by Mark on Jun-07-2002 00:20:

well i don't know much about livesets but i know for a fact people are always begging for singles that are up on AG. even if they knew it was AG, they still ask you for a link. come to think of it, thats just sad when you can't even do a tiny little search for yourself. some people just beg you to put everything in a box, wrap it up all nicely and have them delivered to their front door or something.

livesets i guess are a different issue considering that it takes a longer time to spread around on AG, public ftp's and stuff. on top of that, not too many people will share the lesser known mixes unlike the TE, innercity stuff.


Posted by thomassster on Jun-07-2002 02:11:

My feelings about this is that people shouldn't ask for stuff, unless they do some work looking for it first. Some stuff is clearly easy to find, and some stuff is really hard to find. Except for some cases where sometimes people buy CDs and DVDs and those people post about how good the CD or DVD is and other people start posting saying "can you rip the DVD or CD for us." Obviously that person bought the CD with his/her own money and expecting to share with other people? I feel something like that is wrong!


Posted by Niklas Harding on Jun-07-2002 08:41:

okay.. a answer to DigitalTrance: the reason i did this thread u prolly know after my 100000000000 posts in this thread... but the full story was, i saw in tracklist section.. a d00d had reply'ed on 5 threads.. and u know what he have replyed with? i guess u can imagine ya self!

and a 2nd question, i thought TA as a "information/chilling" forum, and not a shareing forum? getting kinda confused.. cause it looks like almost all TA members want it to be a leech forum, and all mods have the opposite opinion! im confused?


Posted by flystyler on Jun-07-2002 09:05:

http://www.trancegate.x2.nu

Just a little suggestion.

Search no more


Posted by DigitalTrance on Jun-07-2002 10:32:

quote:
KenXo

and a 2nd question, i thought TA as a "information/chilling" forum, and not a shareing forum?


Well isnt giving infomation about the location of a live set sharing anyway? If you people dont like others asking for locations of live sets to be downloaded, just dont post and ignore them, there is no need to start some chidlish flame war about how you dont like it.

quote:
torontotrance

It is not my opinion.....us mods decided (as a group) that we were tired of this and it had to change.


So you mods as a group are higher then all other posters in this forum and decide what YOU want instead of posting a vote or a poll to see what the actual people want instead of inforcing your opinions?


Posted by flystyler on Jun-07-2002 10:50:

quote:
Originally posted by DigitalTrance

So you mods as a group are higher then all other posters in this forum and decide what YOU want instead of posting a vote or a poll to see what the actual people want instead of inforcing your opinions?


Again im not trying to pull rank. But you are a junior tranceaddict and prob dont no the way of the forums. Rules r there to help us, and it is upto the mods to make the rules, because they inforce them.

I dont think we need to be consulted if it makes their life easier, and the forum better for us to use


Posted by DigitalTrance on Jun-07-2002 13:51:

quote:
flystyler

Again im not trying to pull rank. But you are a junior tranceaddict and prob dont no the way of the forums. Rules r there to help us, and it is upto the mods to make the rules, because they inforce them.


So because under my name it says junior it means im completely stupid?



quote:
flystyler

I dont think we need to be consulted if it makes their life easier, and the forum better for us to use


Well dont you mean making your life easier and making others harder? Maybe the forum would be better for the people like you with better access to more infomation then others but for people who have lack of infomation and place's to get live sets and tunes maybe them asking where to download this song/set isnt there fault. Maybe you mods should be looking more at the topics being posted in forums before commenting as this post its self is totally in the wrong section. Try asking the people what they want before you inforce your own personal opinions on to a public forum.


Posted by verminator on Jun-07-2002 14:40:

quote:
Originally posted by DigitalTrance
Try asking the people what they want before you inforce your own personal opinions on to a public forum.


it's Swamper's forum and site, he decides the rules.
the only thing you have to do, is to make sure you dont break them.


is it so difficult?

the rules says "no requests for files in this section"..

it shouldn't be so hard to understand that.


Posted by Niklas Harding on Jun-07-2002 15:21:

quote:
Originally posted by verminator


it's Swamper's forum and site, he decides the rules.
the only thing you have to do, is to make sure you dont break them.


is it so difficult?

the rules says "no requests for files in this section"..

it shouldn't be so hard to understand that.


exactly! this is not meant to be a share forum at all! so there is no idea in all those share & leech reply's, who got acces and who dont!


Posted by bluejay on Jun-07-2002 15:42:

lol...some people just love to power trip any time they get the chance. i can't believe some people's attitudes toward sharing music. listen, if i have the greatest cd ever known to man kind and i was the only one to have a copy...trust me, i wouldn't care who asked for it...i would let you have a copy, without a thank you or any other rules to follow before i gave you a copy. it's sharing music...that we all love. some of you act like just because you don't get anything back from sharing your music, you start to whine about it...like you actually made the music so now you have the power in how it should be shared. like flystyler thanked EVERY SINGLE PERSON that he EVER shared music with...but now that some of you are mods of TA, so i guess it's convient now that you can say that "leechers" aren't allowed to request songs. there will always be leechers...and they will always eventually get the songs anyways, so stop with this i'm mighter than thou and you are in debt to me if i share this with you.


Posted by bluejay on Jun-07-2002 16:00:

a good example of this is in the isos3 thread...not a lot of people have this, obviously because i don't even think its out yet, but PeTrUs was kind enough to share his knowledge in where you could get it. some people thanked him(which was good and the ethical thing to do) and i'm sure some did not. should PeTrUs not have shared his music just because their were leechers out there and that he/she would get nothing in return??? come on people, it's sharing music.

i got an idea...why don't start restricting leechers from TA all together. all of you mods can get together and boot out all leechers.

or how about putting a leecher tag next to their log name so that we all know who is and isn't a leecher, and that way we won't even read their posts so that they'll never get their music.

better yet, why don't we restrict people into coming into TA community by letting them know that they can't ask for any music before they rack at leat 100 posts/replies.


Posted by Niklas Harding on Jun-07-2002 16:11:

i dunno why u keep blabling about leeching & sharing!! th0se rules are set! by the 0wners of TA board.. and thats the way it is!! go fucking accept it damnit! i dont know why u ppl keep posting the same words.. about leeching and sharing! when this forum actually dont know these words! power trip? erhm.. mods are made to take care of ppl who dont follow the rules.. so are the police!! If ppl want to share & leech join a fxp forum or www.downloadaddict.com thats pretty easy! would really like a mod to make this clear, once and for all! cause it looks like none read "Wicked Neo"'s reply!

quote:
Originally posted by Wicked Neo


And the tracklist / tracklist requests forum is just for that, for posting of tracklist's and request's for tracklist's.
It is not a request forum for livesets or singles and if any are posted they are usually closed or deleted.


Posted by torontotrance on Jun-07-2002 16:16:

Smile

So true, seems KenXo can read and it seems like bluejay and digitaltrance cannot read. You don't like it, talk to swamper and stop your whinning.


Posted by bluejay on Jun-07-2002 16:18:

Re: where can we download this?

quote:
Originally posted by KenXo
Is it just me or?, im getting sick of all the ppl asking that question in the tracklist thread! go fucking find it ur self.. damnit


oohhh, so if someone asks "where they can download..." in the CORRECT forum...it's perfectly fine.

it all makes sense now...i mean you won't tell someone to go "fucking find it ur self...damnit" if it was in the CORRECT forum, right???


Posted by bluejay on Jun-07-2002 16:22:

quote:
Originally posted by torontotrance
So true, seems KenXo can read and it seems like bluejay and digitaltrance cannot read. You don't like it, talk to swamper and stop your whinning.


the only people that are whinning are the people who have a problem with the situation, i obviously don't have a problem with anything...you're the one who has the problem of people requesting songs/sets so i think you need to stop whinning and go to talk to swamper about your concerns...


Posted by Swamper on Jun-07-2002 16:45:

Tracklist Requests / Postings
All track listing queries should be directed here.


^^^ I don't see what is so difficult to understand regarding the above in that the forum was created to help in tracklist completion - not for requesting the livesets themselves.

Another reason for the section (in theory) is that once Tracklist requests are completed they are moved to the Tracklist Archive whereby they'll be linked once the new TA database integration comes into play later in the summer, having a thread full of requests just makes things look uglier.

Although since it appears there are some people who feel there is demand for the 'allowance' of such requests then perhaps it'd make more sense for one empowering individual to post a new thread in the 'Site Suggestions' section regarding this.

Don't go telling the moderators off when they're simply following the rules (which are in English by the way - so there's no excuse for you to ignore them).

(Excuse the run on sentences, I seem to be stingy with my commas today)


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