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My anthropology teacher this semester spent maybe just a little too much time doing fieldwork in rural africa, to the point where she couldn't even figure out how to open the lights properly. For some reason they decided to place this course in one of the new high tech classrooms. Half of every lecture was just her trying to figure out what all the switches did.

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Originally posted by jerZ07002 fair enough. I am much better at retaining a massive amount of information over a short period than I am at retaining short bits of information for a long period. Thus, I prefer to cram before finals. It's all about what works best for you. In my field, I don't think going to lectures really adds anything to the experience (unless you are truly having a difficult time understanding the materials you read - law isn't brain surgery). The entire class is based on what you read prior to class. Thus, sitting in a library for hours is likely a better way to learn. The only reason I go to lectures is to know the testing angle the professor was going to take.

Of course. I think there should be some kind of class or something in high school where kids learn to reflect on their learning style, so that they are truly better prepared for study. It just makes sense to know how one's brain works.

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Originally posted by jennypie Of course. I think there should be some kind of class or something in high school where kids learn to reflect on their learning style, so that they are truly better prepared for study. It just makes sense to know how one's brain works.

I've always said intro to psych should be thought in HS.

Yeah I guess that'd be the class, huh? Heh.

Or even classes split up so that all the auditory learners are together, all the tactile learners are together, all the visual learners are together, etc. It's a teacher's job to be able to identify this in students and adjust their teaching accordingly anyways, is it not? Then you could have teachers who specialize in each teaching/learning area, and it would all just be so much more effective.

I'm brilliant. I'm going to open my own school.

Yeah but in practice it's not that simple. Not everyone has just one, specific, clearly defined style of learning. And this would be a logistical nightmare.

No, but most people have a dominant learning style. Obviously teachers would incorporate material that appealed to each learning area, but the focus could be on whichever is dominant. You follow? Shut up, it's smart.

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Originally posted by jennypie Of course. I think there should be some kind of class or something in high school where kids learn to reflect on their learning style, so that they are truly better prepared for study. It just makes sense to know how one's brain works.

that's actually a good idea. from what i remember of high school, my teachers tried forcing me to learn how they expected students to learn. i used to get into trouble all the time for not taking notes in class (although i understand their concern considering most people who don't take notes usually suck at school).

See? Now all you fucks are gonna want in on this.

I've already copyrighted it. You snoose you lose bitch.

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Originally posted by Project-K I've always said intro to psych should be thought in HS.

Most "Intros" should be taught in high school. I'm glad kids here now study philosophy and sociology before they enter university, but there should be many more disciplines available to them, such as anthropology, linguisitcs and economics.

At least they have an idea of what it's all about before they choose their major.

That's true. All you really do before uni is math and natural sciences. Then tons of people end up switching majors halfway through because they just discovered something they didn't know about.

Speaking of which, I've actually been thinking of double-majoring in cultural anthropology.

My art appreciation class entails 1 hour and 30 minutes in an auditorium looking at a projector screen of paintings, other artwork, and architecture and the professor lecturing on about them. Gets old reallllly quick. Unfortunately, there is a quiz every day, so you can't miss the class.

anyone can study really hard for a test, ace it and then forget everything a week after. being in class, doing assignements etc. will make you remember it longer, perhaps even for a lifetime.

Sadly Frenchie smart ppl can get better grades without studying and attend class as much as you.

*cue violin

moral of the story don't worry about what other ppl do or don't do

I had A's all through school minus 1 class where I got a B. OH NO.

Gosh darn you got me there.

I also wasn't worrying I was simply having a debate with someone and thought it'd be a great discussion piece.

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Originally posted by dj_alfi anyone can study really hard for a test, ace it and then forget everything a week after. being in class, doing assignements etc. will make you remember it longer, perhaps even for a lifetime.

I think it's pretty sad that many educators have failed to see the futility of tests which require memorization of material which will be forgotten once the need for it is exhausted. I believe writing a paper is the best way to learn material, because the student must research, learn independently, apply that learning, articulate what has been learned, etc. etc. Testing is sooo archaic to learning.

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Originally posted by Krypton I think it's pretty sad that many educators have failed to see the futility of tests which require memorization of material which will be forgotten once the need for it is exhausted. I believe writing a paper is the best way to learn material, because the student must research, learn independently, apply that learning, articulate what has been learned, etc. etc. Testing is sooo archaic to learning.

yay, someone replied to something i said! best day ever!!!!

oh and yeah, you're spot on, i have alot of doubt in the educational system, and i could write pages up and down about it, but now im tired and im gonna do some hardcore dreaming!

g'night :P

i wouldn't argue with anyone about that because some people just got it, u know? i mean if you dont ever have to go to lectures or put 100% into your assignments and you just "get it" and can go take a test (without cheating or cramming) and still remember the material months later, then you're pretty much gifted or genius level.


i mean i'm assuming that's how this person is. he/she could take the same test months later and still get it?

i'm a pro at cramming and getting at least a C without having studied or really applied myself in the weeks leading up to the exam. i'm not proud of that either but it's just my "skill" when it comes to education i guess. i call it being "ADD style smart"

a lot of learning programs are aimed not quite lowest common denominator, but close to it. some very smart folks may simply waste their time in normal classes. hence all they are there to achieve is passing exams and get whatever formal qualification is on offer.

perhaps they would be better off in a more challenging course?
Schools don't generally have that flexibility which a university can offer.
the idea of seperating students by learning method is great, but would be very expensive and difficult to resource.

I'm a procrastinator and crammer. I will wait until the very night of a test to even begin to study. And I am easily distracted by the internet.

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Originally posted by Krypton And I am easily distracted by the internet.

aren't we all

Breakdown of 95% of my classes:

10% Participation
45% exams
25% Homework/little assignments/short papers
20% group project, term paper, or end of quarter project

Other universities must suck or something, because even if you got A's on exams at my school, you wouldn't even pass. All of my classes allocate a lot of points to participation and HW.

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Originally posted by chimera66 aren't we all

Personally, I'm too easily distrac- look, an eagle!

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