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Posted by tubularbills on Dec-10-2008 00:41:

Ford Festiva > Ford Fiesta


Posted by hiram on Dec-10-2008 00:42:

fantastic!

and yeah, festiva over fiesta anyday.


Posted by gehzumteufel on Dec-10-2008 00:48:

quote:
Originally posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY
Oh joy, yet another POS American car no one will buy. Why should we bail out companies that continue to make shit no one wants.

Wrong. There IS a demand for this and cars like it from companies like Ford, Chevy, and Chrysler. Also, this car has been designed and all that by the Germans.


Posted by gehzumteufel on Dec-10-2008 00:49:

quote:
Originally posted by tubularbills
Ford Festiva > Ford Fiesta


Are you fucking nuts?! The Festiva hasn't been made for YEARS. How is an old piece of shit better than a new German engineered car?!


Posted by tubularbills on Dec-10-2008 00:58:

quote:
Originally posted by gehzumteufel
Are you fucking nuts?! The Festiva hasn't been made for YEARS. How is an old piece of shit better than a new German engineered car?!


it was a joke, benjamin. lol. my mom had one from i wanna say like 1995 until 2004? sometihng like that. it was a little POS, but it wouldn't die...lol


Posted by hiram on Dec-10-2008 01:10:

quote:
Originally posted by tubularbills
it was a joke, benjamin. lol. my mom had one from i wanna say like 1995 until 2004? sometihng like that. it was a little POS, but it wouldn't die...lol



a friend of mine had one sophomore year in high school. but he plowed it into a wall.

when i had a Geo Metro 3cyl the little shit wouldnt die either. 167k miles and not a sign of it dying. had to get rid of it cause i bought a new car, otherwise id have kept it a few more months.


Posted by miamitranceman on Dec-10-2008 03:01:

quote:
Originally posted by nchs09
Fucking tranceaddict failed at giving me a warning the show was starting.







Downlaoding all episodes NAO


They just started airing the new season on BBC America last night if you get that. It's on Mondays at 8pm.


Everytime I see a review of a Ford on Top Gear (the Fiesta, Mondeo) it makes me sick...sick to the fact that Ford has waited this long to start bringing these over here. Clarkson essentially said the Mondeo was the best car he's ever driven (and he's driven a lot). You'd think Ford would get a clue and bring that over here as well and dump the Taurus aka Five Hundred.

Very frustrating. It's like the Top Gear guys are talking about a completely different company than the one we know over here.


Posted by winston on Dec-10-2008 06:11:

Kinetic Energy & Halcyon + on + on = excessive supply & no demand

Just like Britney Spears & Oprah Winfrey


Posted by nchs09 on Dec-10-2008 06:14:

quote:
Originally posted by miamitranceman
They just started airing the new season on BBC America last night if you get that. It's on Mondays at 8pm.


Everytime I see a review of a Ford on Top Gear (the Fiesta, Mondeo) it makes me sick...sick to the fact that Ford has waited this long to start bringing these over here. Clarkson essentially said the Mondeo was the best car he's ever driven (and he's driven a lot). You'd think Ford would get a clue and bring that over here as well and dump the Taurus aka Five Hundred.

Very frustrating. It's like the Top Gear guys are talking about a completely different company than the one we know over here.
The mondeo was the countour... i had one.


Posted by wick on Dec-10-2008 08:33:

There is an Australian Top Gear, but it's not as good as the original obviously. It started out shit house, but got better as the season progressed. But then again, the first few seasons of the original Top Gear were rubbish too, so there's still hope.


Posted by miamitranceman on Dec-10-2008 17:02:

quote:
Originally posted by nchs09
The mondeo was the countour... i had one.


Ah, true. Well they should still bring over then newest one!


Posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY on Dec-10-2008 17:16:

quote:
Originally posted by gehzumteufel
Wrong. There IS a demand for this and cars like it from companies like Ford, Chevy, and Chrysler. Also, this car has been designed and all that by the Germans.


I hope your not in the US, cause your clueless. There is very low demand for American cars, except for the so called exotics. The demand has been low for a decade. Americans are buying Jap and Euro cars. The Unions are not the reason for the big 3's bankruptcy, it's lack of sales due to shitty cars we do not want to own.


Posted by gehzumteufel on Dec-10-2008 17:32:

quote:
Originally posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY
I hope your not in the US, cause your clueless. There is very low demand for American cars, except for the so called exotics. The demand has been low for a decade. Americans are buying Jap and Euro cars. The Unions are not the reason for the big 3's bankruptcy, it's lack of sales due to shitty cars we do not want to own.

They would not decide to bring the car to the US if there was no demand. They previously had decided not to bring the car to the states. Then after many expressing their interest in the machine, they decided to bring it over.

Also, I would never say that the unions are the ONLY reason for their failure, but it is a part of the problem. When you have some dumb fuck making $60/hr and complaining about his wage being too low when he lives in Detroit, that is a fucking problem. I make way less and live in one of the most expensive states. Don't tell me that the unions weren't part of the problem. Now run along to your stupid fuck environment.


Posted by we_R_DNA on Dec-10-2008 17:48:

2009? Fiesta? WOW they should of piled a bunch of Mexicans into the back instead of a Zebra's head then unleashed them once you show how many miles per gallon it got across the BORDER!

This is fucking 2009 dammit; we want HOVER CARS!

As long as we live in the past; we will stay in the past:


Posted by XaNaX on Dec-10-2008 17:49:

The unions are and always have been their biggest problem. When you have in the neighborhood of $2,000 per vehicle in legacy costs that is a problem. The unions refused to accept reasonable wages for the work they do and reasonable benefits for their retirees and for years everything was ok for them as they operated like a parasite sucking the life out of the US automakers. But they got too greedy and now they have nearly killed their hosts.

Add the union issues to a reputation of supplying an inferior products, failure to react to changing customer demands, too many models (do Chevy, Pontiac, and Saturn really all need to sell their own version of the same car?), and a frozen credit market and you get the big 3 begging for taxpayer cash to keep them afloat. The government needs to be very careful with these bailouts and make sure they are all done as good deals for the taxpayer in the end and not just free money for mismanaged companies. The last thing we need to be doing is bailing out every business that fails.


Posted by gehzumteufel on Dec-10-2008 18:34:

quote:
Originally posted by XaNaX
The unions are and always have been their biggest problem. When you have in the neighborhood of $2,000 per vehicle in legacy costs that is a problem. The unions refused to accept reasonable wages for the work they do and reasonable benefits for their retirees and for years everything was ok for them as they operated like a parasite sucking the life out of the US automakers. But they got too greedy and now they have nearly killed their hosts.

Not only that, but they had that "job bank" that had as many as 15,000 workers being paid when they weren't even working at its peak. This is now down to 3,000 but is about to be eliminated.

quote:
Add the union issues to a reputation of supplying an inferior products, failure to react to changing customer demands, too many models (do Chevy, Pontiac, and Saturn really all need to sell their own version of the same car?), and a frozen credit market and you get the big 3 begging for taxpayer cash to keep them afloat. The government needs to be very careful with these bailouts and make sure they are all done as good deals for the taxpayer in the end and not just free money for mismanaged companies. The last thing we need to be doing is bailing out every business that fails.

The product overlap has been one of the domestics WORST decisions and business practices they have ever had. Aside from renting a building they were in for 30 years and then purchasing it for 680m and then selling it, or at least attempting to, when they are in a bad situation.


Posted by nchs09 on Dec-10-2008 21:45:

Just noticed there is a road sign on this road test that says "wilfords cum lake"



Posted by adi_hanson on Dec-10-2008 21:53:

quote:
Originally posted by nchs09
Just noticed there is a road sign on this road test that says "wilfords cum lake"




Yeah , public wanking (or dogging) is confined to special areas in the UK


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